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Ranch Dog
08-09-2006, 11:49 PM
Well fellows... we have us a boolit :drinks:

I thought I would start a new thread to document any comments about the mold. Right about dark, UPS delivered four large boxes out here at the ranch and I got busy.

http://home.awesomenet.net/~ranch-dog/Casting/TLC460350RF/Lee_Drawing_Detail.jpg

http://home.awesomenet.net/~ranch-dog/Casting/TLC460350RF/03A.jpg
The 350-grain boolit compared to the 425-grain boolit

I cast a bunch of bullets from both the 2 and 6-cavity molds and the boolits are simply outstanding!!! I cast with 1 to 10 (tin/ww) as that is the standard which Lee uses and the alloy to compare the spec to. Unless you are using pure lead your bullet diameter will be slightly larger and the weight slightly less.

Overall the 2 and 6 cavity molds where amazing close. An average of a dozen boolits from each mold yielded a diameter of .4618" for the 2 cavity and .4615" for the 6 Cavity. The cavities on the 2 banger where identical and on the 6 varied a bit from .4617" to .4623".

Boolit weight with a gas check came in at 343-grains on the two cavity and 345-grains on the six. I actually wanted the boolit to weigh in no greater than 350-grains so I feel warm and fuzzy using the Hodgdon data for the 350-grain FP. Hodgdon is about the only outfit that gives the Marlin it's due with the loading data for the 45-70.

The meplat (nose) was a little under. I came up with .328" on all my boolits. I was casting this alloy at 750F... may be if it was a little warmer the nose would have filled out better. I think I will see the .33" with my 50/50 WW/Linotype. Gas checks seated perfectly without using heavy thumb pressure or the need for a mallet. The lube grooves look great.

Both molds dropped shooters from the get go. I follow the Lee instructions to the letter. I clean the mold with Coleman fuel, lube the mold pins with the Lee NRA Formula Alox Beeswax Mix, and smoke the mold cavities with a butane lighter. I had no rejects... not one.

For me, it's on to casting with 50/50 (WW/Linotype) and giving the bullet a stiff load of H4895 but first I will be getting these molds out to you tomorrow. I will take a look at every mold and compare the cavities to the boolits I've cast. You should have them pretty quick.

Some notes
1. The bullet nomeclature... the "RFB" signifies the boolit with the modified Micro-Bands.
2. The Lee order # is 21072 dated 05-31-06.
3. I have a web page for the boolit.... Ranch Dog's Boolit Casting - TLC460-325-RFB (http://home.awesomenet.net/~ranch-dog/Casting/TLC460350RF/). Send me your loading data and I will post it. Also, I will host pictures of your trophies taken with the boolit so that you can share them online. Send the loading data or pictures to my email link below or on the page. The subject line should read TLC460-350-RFB Load Data or Photo.

Maineboy
08-10-2006, 05:09 AM
Excellent! I'll warm up the pot. Thanks Ranchdog!

MGySgt
08-10-2006, 08:11 AM
Can't wait - need a new bullet to play with with the Quigley! (45/90)

6pt-sika
08-10-2006, 08:38 AM
Thanks Ranch Dog :drinks:

I'm off friday saturday and sunday , so maybe with a little luck I might see them saturday at the post office . If not its still good I can try them out wednesday and thursday of next week :mrgreen:

Ranch Dog
08-10-2006, 08:57 AM
Added some info to post #1 above.

45 2.1
08-10-2006, 09:07 AM
I'm waiting for mine. I'll be interested to see how the micro band modification works out. Shoot some for us while were waiting, will ya?

txpete
08-10-2006, 11:17 AM
what gas checks do you recommend..lyman or hornady ??
thanks
pete

Ranch Dog
08-10-2006, 02:04 PM
45.2.1. ... You guys might beat me to it! I've been staying pretty busy around here with my home and ranch work.

txpete... All I've ever used is the Hornady.

See you back to my shipping duties. My Post Office is going to hate me this afternoon!:roll:

txpete
08-10-2006, 02:13 PM
thanks ranch dog.I ordered some hornadys from grafs..$35.49 shipped ouch:-D
pete

jebb45
08-11-2006, 07:49 AM
Ranch Dog...............

Did you by any chance get any extra moulds??????? I sure could use a second set of moulds. I you find a spare in this configuration, let me know??????????

Thanks/jebb45:drinks: :drinks: :drinks: :drinks:

Ranch Dog
08-11-2006, 11:36 PM
Jebb... For sure no 2-cavity molds left. I had ordered a couple of extras of each and they ended up being spoken for.

If you don't get what you ordered... let me know. I will get it figured out. This was one heck of an order and took about three hours to get ready to ship and another hour in the post office. Everything is enroute.

txpete
08-11-2006, 11:44 PM
thanks

dltaskey
08-13-2006, 08:40 AM
Any extra six cavitys?

PatMarlin
08-13-2006, 09:25 AM
Hey-

This casters log is a great idea... :drinks:

Ranch Dog
08-13-2006, 10:24 AM
Any extra six cavitys?

I bought three extra 2-cavity and three extra 6-cavity molds. I thought I had sold them all but ended up with two of the 6-cavity molds sitting on the table when the dust settled. I'm going to go back and check all my records to make sure everything was accounted for, I know one fellow never sent me the money and didn't respond to the PMs, and then I have a list of others that sent me PMs after the closing. I will put you on that list to be worked through.

I shipped these on the way to work and have been traveling since. It will be mid-week before I can get to it.

PatMarlin
08-13-2006, 10:32 AM
Put me on the list for an extra too... :drinks:

6pt-sika
08-13-2006, 02:50 PM
Ok Ranch Dog , now you need to find you a nice old Marlin 336 A or SC in 32 Speciel . [smilie=1:

Then you can make two more moulds in your series ; a 150 grain and 170 grain:castmine:


Cause I sure would like it :drinks:

drinks
08-13-2006, 04:26 PM
The Lee C324-175 1R is a fine bullet in my '94, sized at .323 it shoots at 2100fps with 26gr of H4198, for a mostly factory duplication load.

Hackleback
08-14-2006, 01:59 PM
Box arrived from the PO today at lunch!!:drinks:
Might have to get some casting done this week!:castmine:

Uncle Grinch
08-14-2006, 03:14 PM
Michael,

Mine came in today and it looks good. I will have it hot with lead by the weekend!

Thanks for the work and updates.

Mike (zip code 31052)

Johnch
08-14-2006, 05:40 PM
Mine came today ( 43445 )

I will be running a few hundred of this and the 44 Ranch dog Thur or fri evening .
Sat I will see how they shoot .

Thanks

Johnch

6pt-sika
08-14-2006, 05:55 PM
Ranch Dog , I recieved a package today and everything inside looked great :drinks:

Thanks again:bigsmyl2:

Edward429451
08-14-2006, 07:04 PM
I got mine today (80907).

I cast some up and they fell out at 347g (WW's) and .458 to .459.

Mebbee next time we can order them at .461 or .462 to get what we want in size since they always seem to come small from Lee?

That mould sure do empty that Lee Pro Pot fast...I can't even find any GC's, any of you guys wanna sell/send me a handful to tide me over until I locate a couple boxes?

MGySgt
08-14-2006, 08:32 PM
I got mine today (28332) - Spent some time this evening deburring it. I will clean it tomorrow and drill and tap a set screw.

Maybe get it hot by the weekend!

Drew

drinks
08-14-2006, 08:43 PM
I got mine today.
One cavity drops .460-.461, .001 out of round, not bad at all.
Other cavity drops .4595-461, .0015 out of round, still within the range of my .4595 sizer I use,
I did have to run the pot hotter and cast faster to keep the TL bands filled out.
So far, looks good, the proof will be in the shooting.
Weighed 10 bullets at random, from 349.5 to 350.4 grs.

DEVERS454
08-14-2006, 08:56 PM
Got mine today as well.

hopefully, I can cast up a few of these as well as some from my other molds.

Ranch Dog
08-15-2006, 08:54 AM
II cast some up and they fell out at 347g (WW's) and .458 to .459.

Could you cast a little hotter with the WW to see if that helps fill it out more. I'm getting a good looking bullet at .461 when cast at 800F.

Ranch Dog
08-15-2006, 08:55 AM
I've got some load work to do today but my nephew is here and he is going to try and kill a hog with the boolit this afternoon or tomorrow. Will use a Marlin 1895G (45-70)

rvpilot76
08-15-2006, 10:35 AM
Got mine yesterday (98801). Thanks for your efforts on this, RD. I need to order a Star now; see what you guys made me do! :-D

Kevin

:lovebooli

txpete
08-15-2006, 11:53 AM
:roll: still waiting for mine.this part of texas it comes by mule:-D .
pete

bsn
08-15-2006, 03:41 PM
Mine came today. THANKS!!!

Ranch Dog
08-15-2006, 06:03 PM
Pete that is funny how it's taking longer for you to get yours and you where about the closest to me.

The boolit is shooting great with 53.0-grains of H4895. I will do some chrony work with it tomorrow but for hunting purposes dead on at 50 is dead on at 100-yards with clover leaf groups. My nephew is out now waiting for the boolit to intercept a hog.

BTW... Boolits weigh 353-grains ready to go with this alloy.

Ranch Dog
08-15-2006, 06:18 PM
BTW... I LOVE the modified Micro-Bands. They are filling with lube quicker than the standard bands. Two coats filled these bands... the standard have taken three coats to fill solid ,straight across the outer diameter of the groove. Long live the "RFB!"

1894CL
08-15-2006, 07:37 PM
Got mine yesterday and cast some last night, bullets look great!! I've got some ready to start testing this weekend. Thanks RD for putting this together, this is just the bullet I've been looking for.

Ranch Dog
08-15-2006, 10:11 PM
Glad to see you here 1894CL!

I've spent the day teaching my nephew (17) the fine art of casting and reloading. It's been a great day! He's back in from the hunt... he had a good evening in the woods but no hogs. We will try again tomorrow.

Bodydoc447
08-16-2006, 08:04 AM
Got mine Monday. Movers delivered all of our household stuff yesterday. It'll be a while until I burrow down to the casting equipment. Thanks, Michael! What a great looking boolit!

Doc

Maineboy
08-16-2006, 08:49 AM
Thanks again Ranchdog. I received mine yesterday but I have to many "honeydo" projects to do any casting. Maybe Sunday morning...

6pt-sika
08-16-2006, 09:10 AM
With a little luck I will get out sometime today or tommorrow and cast some [smilie=1:

drinks
08-16-2006, 05:49 PM
I have checked and lubed some, average weight was 361gr.
This should be a fine deer/hog bullet, the 425 coming would be the moose/elk/brown bear level.

Edward429451
08-16-2006, 05:54 PM
Could you cast a little hotter with the WW to see if that helps fill it out more. I'm getting a good looking bullet at .461 when cast at 800F.


Hmm, I was casting hot & frosty but perhaps something else is going on here. I took a pretty small sampling the other day, and last night I remeasured all that I had cast (~200) and many of them were .460 to .461. I still have a small percentage coming out at .458-.459 but maybe I have one small cavity and through the luck of the draw picked up all small ones?

I'm going to cast some more and when I do I'm going to make an effort to segregate some while ID'ing which cavity they came from.

txpete
08-16-2006, 07:37 PM
wahooooo got mine.thanks ranch dog!! the pot will be getting hot tomorrow.
thanks
pete

1894CL
08-16-2006, 08:31 PM
Ran a few over the Chrony tonight, 40grs.H4198-1700fps, 45grs.H4198-1900fps. I'll shoot some groups this weekend, so far I'm real happy with it!! Hornady gas check and two coats liquid alox wiped on with my finger and they weigh right at 353grs.

Ken O
08-16-2006, 09:58 PM
I recieved mine yesteday, I'll try to cast some tomorrow, thanks RD!

DEVERS454
08-16-2006, 10:07 PM
I have to cast with the pot all the way up at HI on my Lee 20lb'er.

I am using Lyman #2, and if I keep the mold hot, I get prefect bullets.

they are all dropping right at .458"-.459".

I am going to try and lube/gas check some and see how it goes.

(.457" sizer from Lee is what I use for my 1886 in 45-90)

14gr of Trail Boss should do the trick.

Update: Here is a pick of a sized and gc'd one I just cast. If I don't use graphite cheat-spray, I have to get the mold REALLY hot and add tin.

http://www.gunblast.net/images/1886/TLC-460_small.jpg

Update: Do folks tend to just use a single LLA coat on these or folks going with a "double coating"???

jebb45
08-17-2006, 04:32 PM
Ranch Dog,

Yeeeeeeehaaaaaa!!!!!!!:drinks: :drinks:
Got my mould on the 14th and man does it ever look good, Thanks!!!!
You never said if all the extras were gone or who got them????????
I am still interested in an extra mould if so. If not can I order a mould from
Lee with the mould number of 21072 and they will know what it is???????
Once again/jebb45:drinks: :drinks: :drinks: :drinks: :drinks:

txpete
08-17-2006, 07:42 PM
I made about 100 this morning.I was having a hard time getting the little ribs to fill out.tried adding extra tin/lino to the mix.better but still need to work on it.they fill out great when the temp is maxed out on the lee pot.
how are yours turning out??.
pete

MGySgt
08-17-2006, 07:50 PM
Started casting with mine today after

Put a set screw in for the Sprue Plate,
Honed the top of the mould and bottom of the sprue plate
broke the sharpe edge between the halfs
Cleaned in acetone
Lubed with Bull Shop's Sprue plate Lube.

Had to bump the temp to about 850+ Then I had to cool the sprue's with the wet rage (Bruce B way).

Goes through a LOT of lead in a hurry.

Size - .458 - 461+
Weight - 348.5 - 351.0

These differences is NOT the different cavities, the last 4 sets were left where they fell. Cause is how hot the mold is, too much BruceB cooling causing smaller diameter, shiny but smaller, have to get that right and and when I do they will be consistant.

Over all it seems to be what I wanted - cast a bunch for the Marlin GG in 45/70 (one of the earlier ones that is ported)

Good looking Bullet Ranch Dog! [smilie=w:

Drew

MGySgt
08-17-2006, 07:53 PM
Any one trying these with regular Luber/Sizer vice LLA?

I will be interested in what someone else finds out. I will be using my RCBS Luber/Sizer and Lyman Super Molly probably .458 for the .456 bore diameter of the Marlin GG.

Drew

Still can't type worth a darn!

6pt-sika
08-17-2006, 08:40 PM
Any one trying these with regular Luber/Sizer vice LLA?

I will be interested in what someone else finds out. I will be using my RCBS Luber/Sizer and Lyman Super Molly probably .458 for the .465 bore diameter of the Marlin GG.

Drew

Yes I have a .459" sizer for my Lyman 4500 that I use with the other 45-70 bullets. Was gonna cast some today , but as usual got side tracked and none cast.:?

man in black
08-17-2006, 08:44 PM
Thanks, my mold arrived today.

DEVERS454
08-17-2006, 10:00 PM
I found that I had to "double up" the LLA application (essentially, lube them twice) and then seat the gas checks and size.

I have a Lee .457" sizer that works pretty darn well.

My Lyman #2 alloy in these buggers makes for nice bullets.

I might try Lee-Menting the molds and hone them a bit before casting next time.
(should help with both drops as well as with fill out... hoping)

Ranch Dog
08-17-2006, 10:06 PM
I made about 100 this morning.I was having a hard time getting the little ribs to fill out.tried adding extra tin/lino to the mix.better but still need to work on it.they fill out great when the temp is maxed out on the lee pot.
how are yours turning out??.
pete

Pete, have you cleaned the mold real good?

dragonrider
08-17-2006, 10:11 PM
Imagin my surprise when a bullet mold showed up in my po box. One I did not remember ordering. However after a few minutes online here I find that I did indeed order it. It's a fine looking mold and as soon as I aquire a size die of .460" or .461 I'll get to toss some downrange. I have a 458" for my Star machine, I am going to give a shot at honing it larger. I'll get some cast up this weekend and post my results. I think my TCR is going to like this.


Thanks Ranch Dog, for all you hard work, I'm sure this was no easy task.

LIMPINGJ
08-17-2006, 10:49 PM
Went to the P.O. today and mine was in the box. Looks good and if I can stand the heat I may try it out this weekend. Thanks again R.D.
Jim

txpete
08-17-2006, 10:50 PM
ranch dog sure did.I might just not had it hot enough at first.
going to try to cast some more tomorrow.can't wait to send some down range out of the marlin and the ruger #1.
not complaining and do thank you for putting this GB together.
pete

Ranch Dog
08-18-2006, 08:56 AM
Now about the extra's. I've got two each, 2 and 6-cavities. I also had a number of guys PM after the close. I will go back and research my mail and check with you on a first come, first serve basis. I will work through my mail this weekend and send you a note.

Ranch Dog
08-18-2006, 09:13 AM
To serve my curiosity, I thought I would put together a map of where these molds are going to... If you are so inclined, follow this link and add your zip code....

http://www.frappr.com/tlc460-350-rfb

Tomhorn
08-18-2006, 09:50 AM
Ranch Dog Now about the extra's. I've got two each, 2 and 6-cavities. I also had a number of guys PM after the close. I will go back and research my mail and check with you on a first come, first serve basis. I will work through my mail this weekend and send you a note.


I will Take a 6 Cavity. Send me a note with address info and will get money order out asap.

Mark

MGySgt
08-18-2006, 02:56 PM
To serve my curiosity, I thought I would put together a map of where these molds are going to... If you are so inclined, follow this link and add your zip code....

http://www.frappr.com/tlc460-350-rfb

Ok - I am stupid - What is the code to add someone????

Edward429451
08-18-2006, 06:24 PM
The code is written into a grey area beside where the zip is put in, in the same block.

dragonrider
08-18-2006, 10:52 PM
Checked out the mold for burrs and of course it was loaded with em as Lee mold generally are. Cleaned them off, scrubbed the mold in hot soapy water, and rinsed completely, cast 90 boolits and got 10 good ones. All the bad ones had huge wrinkles all in the same spot from all cavities. The good ones came from the first few fillings of the mold when the pot and mold were the hottest. about 850. after that they went down hill when refilling the casting pot from the melting pot. This mold is noticeably lighter in weight that other lee six cavs that I have, hence not as much material, hence cools off quicker. Gotta do something to keep mold temp up. Try again on sat
Good news is they fall real easy, most times don't even need to be tapped.

Ranch Dog
08-19-2006, 10:15 AM
There are no molds, 2 or 6-cavity, remaining....

Ranch Dog
08-19-2006, 12:10 PM
Do folks tend to just use a single LLA coat on these or folks going with a "double coating"???I take a new bottle of Lee Liquid Alox and fill the airspace with mineral spirits. In a bowl of hot water I heat the Alox bottle and then shake it pretty good. I apply coat of wax that gets the boolit pretty wet and apply the coats as necessary to fill the lube grooves level with the bands. It has taken up to three coats of wax to lube my boolits with the Lee Micro-Bands but only took two coats to fill the grooves on this boolit. They seemed to hold the wax much better.

Ranch Dog
08-19-2006, 12:24 PM
...can I order a mould from
Lee with the mould number of 21072 and they will know what it is???????

That number would help for sure but they are still going to charge any additional order with the setup fee if it doesn't meet the minimums. I included the order number as a reference in case anybody had any warranty claim with their individual molds. Also remember that this mold is labeled "TLC460-350-RFB" there is also a "TLC460-350-RF" which has the Lee Micro-Bands vs. the modified micro-bands we submitted with this order.

With any reorder I would want to receive a drawing of the design that I would accept with my signature and send back to Lee. This can be done via email and is just an agreement between Lee and yourself over the specs.

Last Spike
08-20-2006, 08:52 AM
You guys are making me envious with your results. Can't wait until my molds show up.

jebb45
08-20-2006, 02:34 PM
:drinks: :drinks: :drinks: :drinks: :drinks:

Ranch Dog::::::::::

I did get my 2 cavity mould on the 14th of August, thank you for all of your time and work.

I was asking for any extra 2 cavity moulds, did get any extra 2 cavity moulds or did anyone back out of the group buy?????

I would buy another 2 cavity if one is available, keep me advised, thanks.:drinks:

Once again thanks for all your hard work!!!!!!!:Fire: :Fire:

drinks
08-20-2006, 11:27 PM
I have found a glitch in my mold.
I tried to size and crimp on gas checks.
I used a .4595 sizer, gas checks fell off.
I then used a .458 sizer, gas checks could still be easily popped off after going through the sizer.
I then used my dial indicator calipers to measue the ID of the Hornady gc's I have been using several years.
The ID was .424.
I then measured the gas check portion of the mold by 2 methods, by opening the calipers to .430, placing the prongs in the mold where the gas check is molded and carefully closing the mold, result was .417.
I then did my best to measure 5 bullets at the beginning of the gas check shank, the best I could do was .418.
I measured 3 other .45 bullets from other molds on the gas check shank and all were .423-.424.
It appears I am going to have to make a .424 reamer and open up the gas check shank if I expect gas checks to crimp on with a decent grip.

dragonrider
08-21-2006, 09:58 AM
I got the same problem as drinks, plus I get boolits that are too small 458-459.

drinks.
Can you give a short description of how you will make the reamer?

drinks
08-21-2006, 11:01 AM
A picture is worth 1000 words.
Very similar to a woodruff key slot miller.
I open the mold, place the cutter in the band I want to enlarge, hold the shank with pliers and slowly close the mold while keeping the cutter straight, when the cutter turns easily by fingers, I quit and do a cleanup and test pour.
I have modified molds fron .30 to .45, so far.
The bullet in the picture is a Lee .44 SWC I enlarged to .434 for myHandirifle with .431 groove.

drinks
08-21-2006, 05:19 PM
I can't get a picture to load, each time I try, the site is lost. ?????????????
I have reamed the mold, the gas check shank is now the same diameter as a RCBS .45 gc mold I have and a gas check now holds on pretty tight.

Ranch Dog
08-21-2006, 06:32 PM
:drinks: :drinks: :drinks: :drinks: :drinks:

Ranch Dog::::::::::

I did get my 2 cavity mould on the 14th of August, thank you for all of your time and work.

I was asking for any extra 2 cavity moulds, did get any extra 2 cavity moulds or did anyone back out of the group buy?????

I would buy another 2 cavity if one is available, keep me advised, thanks.:drinks:

Once again thanks for all your hard work!!!!!!!:Fire: :Fire:

Jebb... sent you a PM.

jebb45
08-21-2006, 08:50 PM
You have a return message........................................... Thanks/jebb45:drinks:

MGySgt
08-21-2006, 08:53 PM
I have sized to .459 and the same problem with the GC. However I had the same problem with Hornady's and sizing to 460+

I bought some GC's from Creeker before he went back on the road and they work fine. I don't know if they are the same as Gator's, but when I run out I am going to try Gator checks.

I am going to TRY and get some test loads made tonight - 46-47 grains of 3031 a little dacron and it should be just over 1500 FPS. We shall see!

Drew

PatMarlin
08-21-2006, 11:51 PM
Ranch Dog-

I was intersted in a 2 holer 425gr mold if anyone had an extra, not the 350.

Thanks... :drinks:

Ranch Dog
08-22-2006, 01:06 AM
Ranch Dog-

I was intersted in a 2 holer 425gr mold if anyone had an extra, not the 350.

Thanks... :drinks:
'
None of them either....

rvpilot76
08-22-2006, 10:14 AM
My Hornady gaschecks just fall off. How the heck do I fix that?

Kevin

Ranch Dog
08-22-2006, 10:38 AM
A couple of other fellows have reported this also... They also listed a fix in the text above. The correct answer is that you should send the mold back to Lee but that seems like a long fix to the problem. If you do send it back, reference order #21072 dated 05-31-06, with my name address as the buyer (should be on the return label).

I believe I would try this as I've used the method to repair some other injuries in the past. I think Marshall at Beartooth Bullets passed this on to me many moons ago. Prepare a slurry or paste of Comet, Ajax or other abrasive cleaner. With boolits that were cast from the mold, dip the gas check shanks into the slurry. With the mold held closed and the sprue plate out of the way, slowly rotate the base of the boolit into the cavity while applying pressure. It will take a bit of turning to fit into the cavity of the shank. The gas check shank will slowly fit into place as the aluminum surface of the mold is polished. I'm not talking about removing much, if you are, send the mold back to Lee. I actually turned both cavities on a C430-310-RF out to .432" using this and it worked very well. May be some others could comment on this idea?

I've always been meaning to ask you about that Commander in the background!

txpete
08-22-2006, 01:07 PM
using the hornady gas checks on my first batch the gas checks were a little loose when sized .458.you could turn them by hand but they didn't come off.
2nd batch I just added more linotype to my alloy and it worked just fine and had a good crimp. if lee with their 1=10 alloy tried seating gas checks on the bullets from these moulds it could have been fixed right there before shipping.I guess thats just asking to much.:roll:
pete

Leftoverdj
08-22-2006, 01:26 PM
In the bad old days of the non-crimping Lyman GC's, I would use a cold chisle to burr the edges of the GC. Two taps would create 4 burrs about 90 degrees apart. Sizing irons off the outside burrs and locks the GC to the shank.

Edward429451
08-22-2006, 01:49 PM
I'm still waitin on my gas checks to show up. Hope they fit ok but LODJ's trick sounds like its worth a try. If not I may just have to ship this mould off to Buckshot to PB it and drill them shanks out.

MGySgt
08-22-2006, 07:11 PM
Loaded some sized to .459 with Lyman Super Moly and 3031 with Dacron. These were shot at 50 yards - didn't really know what to expect.

Marlin 45/70 Guide Gun with ports!

Left side - 46.0 3031, dacron 1.14 outside to outside - Quick load states 1500

Right side - 45.0 3031, dacron 1.14 outside to outside - Quick load states 1470

Don't ask about 45.5 - I don't know if it was me or the load. :confused:

They both should stay well under 1.5 at 100. I am going to load the next set and try and shoot them tomorrow.

I have found that the vertical stringing is normally too light of a load. These were a real ***** cat to shoot!.

Ranch Dog
08-22-2006, 10:31 PM
if lee with their 1=10 alloy tried seating gas checks on the bullets from these moulds it could have been fixed right there before shipping.I guess thats just asking to much.:roll:
pete

Pete...

With the two sample molds from the buy, both 2 and 6-cavity molds, I did cast with 1 to 10 prior to shipping and these test boolits are okay. I wonder if these couple of molds are where it was time to change the cutter?

I've also been wondering about the quality of the Hornady checks lately. I bought a new box of .44s for my 444 and even after annealing they are almost impossible to seat on the shank. The box prior to these snapped on with normal finger pressure. My 30s and 35s are the opposite. Previous boxes sucked, new boxes good. Why would they be any different... the mold and my alloy didn't change.

I've always used Hornady, is there any thing else out there now?

Ranch Dog
08-22-2006, 10:32 PM
Loaded some sized to .459 with Lyman Super Moly and 3031 with Dacron. These were shot at 50 yards - didn't really know what to expect.

That looks pretty nice to me!

txpete
08-23-2006, 12:34 AM
Pete...

With the two sample molds from the buy, both 2 and 6-cavity molds, I did cast with 1 to 10 prior to shipping and these test boolits are okay. I wonder if these couple of molds are where it was time to change the cutter?

I've also been wondering about the quality of the Hornady checks lately. I bought a new box of .44s for my 444 and even after annealing they are almost impossible to seat on the shank. The box prior to these snapped on with normal finger pressure. My 30s and 35s are the opposite. Previous boxes sucked, new boxes good. Why would they be any different... the mold and my alloy didn't change.

I've always used Hornady, is there any thing else out there now?

ranch dog so you think the problem is the hornady gas checks ???hope not I now have 2000 sitting on the bench:-? .
pete

MGySgt
08-23-2006, 09:08 PM
Loaded some sized to .459 with Lyman Super Moly and 3031 with Dacron shot at 50 yards - Marlin 45/70 Guide Gun with ports - 5 shots per group.

Left side - 46.5 3031, dacron 1.070 outside to outside - Quick load states 1527

Right side - 47.0 3031, dacron 1.070 outside to outside - Quick load states 1549

Note - 2 things -

First - I don't know what happened with the last shot of 47.0 - it was me not the load it is not included in the size of the group.

Second I think Quick Load is lying to me. This star line brass won't hold much more powder and Quick load states I can go to 52 grains. I am goning to do some Chrono on Sat.

Last - Recoil is starting to get up there. I loaded the next set for tomorrow and no matter what it may be the last set until I breakout the Chrono

Ken O
08-23-2006, 09:09 PM
Casted some up today of the two cavity mold. They miked at .4595 using WW. I used the Lyman Lubi-sizer just to crimp on the GC. I put the .458 die in, but just pushed the bullet in far enough to set the GC, so I didnt loose any width.
I used the Gator Checks and they crimped on real solid.
I suggest anyone using checks to watch the Group Buy section of this forum and when/if Felix does it again, to pick the Gators, they are great checks.

Ranch Dog
08-23-2006, 09:46 PM
ranch dog so you think the problem is the hornady gas checks ???hope not I now have 2000 sitting on the bench:-? .
pete

It would be interesting to try both boxes and see if checks from each box fit the same... I've been buying boxes several months apart, different lots, and they fit different. Never thought I would have to save my coins to buy gas checks!

Ranch Dog
08-23-2006, 09:48 PM
MGySgt...

Look'n good!!!! :Fire:

MGySgt
08-24-2006, 09:36 PM
MGySgt...

Look'n good!!!! :Fire:

Thanks Ranch Dog - 47.5 just ok, 48.0 forget it. Neither really worth pictures.

I will probably settle somewhere around 47.0 - I will chrono them this weekend.

Drew

txpete
08-24-2006, 10:40 PM
It would be interesting to try both boxes and see if checks from each box fit the same... I've been buying boxes several months apart, different lots, and they fit different. Never thought I would have to save my coins to buy gas checks!

I will give the other box of gc's a try on my next batch.
looked at my mid way flyer and its not just the gc that are costing alot more the jacketed condoms are getting pretty high also.ouch.glad I shoot cast:-D .
pete

Edward429451
08-25-2006, 09:15 PM
My Hornady GC's came and about 2/3 of them would seat. The GC's had a bigger variation than the boolits. I was getting .422 to .428 for an ID of the checks and .425 +-.001 on the GC shanks. Some that initially wouldn't take a GC would take it ok if I searched out a .422 to .424 ID GC.

Can't wait for the Gator checks.

Ken O
08-25-2006, 11:00 PM
Loaded up and shot a bunch of these today. I've never been a fan of the tumble lube because of the time/mess, but these bullets grouped the best of any I have ever shot out of the Marlin '95G, (which is lots). I used 50gr of 3031 and shot three shot groups at 100 yards and most were touching each other. I can see this will be my "go to" bullet for this rifle. Thanks, Ranchdog

Ranch Dog
08-25-2006, 11:26 PM
My Hornady GC's came and about 2/3 of them would seat. The GC's had a bigger variation than the boolits. I was getting .422 to .428 for an ID of the checks and .425 +-.001 on the GC shanks. Some that initially wouldn't take a GC would take it ok if I searched out a .422 to .424 ID GC.

Can't wait for the Gator checks.

This is what I'm talking about... make you crazy!

Ranch Dog
08-25-2006, 11:31 PM
Loaded up and shot a bunch of these today. I've never been a fan of the tumble lube because of the time/mess, but these bullets grouped the best of any I have ever shot out of the Marlin '95G, (which is lots). I used 50gr of 3031 and shot three shot groups at 100 yards and most were touching each other. I can see this will be my "go to" bullet for this rifle. Thanks, Ranchdog

Your welcome Ken! Glad to hear the boolit is working for you. I hope you guys are ready to share some "trophy" photos this year :drinks:

drinks
08-27-2006, 05:26 PM
I have some 2 year old Hornady checks,some I bought this year and the Gator group buy checks from this year.
I measured them as best as I could.
2 year old, O.D., .461, I.D., .424.
This year, O.D., .462, I.D., .424.
Gator group buy, O.D., .470, I.D., .425.
I turned a plain base bullet down until the gator check would snap on with a clearly felt click, measured the shank, .429, Hornady would not go on, then continued reducing the shank until the Hornady would snap on, .427.
Seems to be quite a bit of variables.
I am going to ream the shank in the mold to .427 and see if it does better.

6pt-sika
08-27-2006, 09:36 PM
Cast about 125 of the 350's today . They were cast from straight WW's . I did not keep the sides seperate but did go thru and measure 10 or so . They were .4595 -.4605. Didn't think to measure the shank where the check goes.

Also cast about 80 of Ranch Dogs 375 mould they came in at .3795-.3805.

Also did 200 of his 30 cal bullets they measured .3125-.3135 .

HAve to work monday and tuesday , but then I have seven days off . Maybe I can get caught up in my casting and loading for the upcoming season . [smilie=1:

Ranch Dog
08-28-2006, 03:15 AM
6pt... was go'na send out an email to you this morning.... hadn't seen you post in a while and was wonderning what you had been doing. Ranch Dogging I guess!!!

My lower back has been kill'n me this week but managed to get about 300 of the TLC359-180-RFs ready to go yesterday.

6pt-sika
08-28-2006, 08:16 AM
Between work , helping out with my mother and trying to get the trails ready for hunting season it has not left a lot of time for casting and loading.:veryconfu

However starting wednasday morning I have seven days off so hopefully I can get caught up [smilie=s:

twoworms
08-28-2006, 10:42 PM
Hands down this is the best boolit I ever shot out of my Marlin 1895. I shot 4, 3 shot groups and 1, 6 shot group, with all of them being better than any group I have ever shot before. The first 3 shot group out at 100 yards was a real keeper.

Thanks for everyone's work on a fine boolit.
Tim

Load info WW's for lead, Lee Alox lube 3X, fired as cast with a gascheck...

Edward429451
08-28-2006, 11:38 PM
Doubletap.Sorry

Edward429451
08-28-2006, 11:45 PM
This 350GC boolit is great!! I put 9 rounds into a 1.8" ragged hole at 50 yyds first try. The first shot was a flyer from a cold clean barrel 3" low. I can see this boolit is going to be very useful.

50.0 gr of RX7 sounded like a good place to start them. My Chrony battary was found dead, so can only guess what they were doing. I had no LLA so I put em through my .460 sizer and applied some RR hard lube. Haven't looked at the barrell yet.

My shoulders sore...:>)

straightshooter
08-29-2006, 01:51 PM
has anybody shot the new 350 grainer through a 45-70 microgroove barrel.
JB

Last Spike
08-29-2006, 08:01 PM
Looks like I'll be doing a bit of casting this weekend as my moulds came.:drinks:

Thanks, Michael![smilie=w:

Initial inspection of both moulds showed one or two burrs easily dealt with. But otherwise looked to be in good shape.

Just in time to get some cast for deer rifle season which starts up here in 2 and 1/2 weeks.

Looking forward to the other 425 grainer Ranch Dogs when they come.:lovebooli

Ranch Dog
08-29-2006, 08:30 PM
Just in time to get some cast for deer rifle season which starts up here in 2 and 1/2 weeks.

Very good! Hope to see some pictures in about 3 weeks for the trophy room!

charger 1
08-31-2006, 05:54 AM
ranch dog so you think the problem is the hornady gas checks ???hope not I now have 2000 sitting on the bench:-? .
pete

I'll eat every one of those gas checks that are outta spec. You'd best just sell me the mold Pete[smilie=1: Lee out of spec or hornady outta spec?HHHHMMMMM

txpete
08-31-2006, 11:20 AM
over easy and with salt and pepper??:-D :-D .
going to try a shoot some tomorrow at the ranch when we get done killing some dove.going to try them first in the ruger #1.
pete

drinks
08-31-2006, 05:14 PM
I tried reaming the shank to .424, gas checks still come off.
I have now reamed it to .428, cast some bullets and the as cast shank is .4275, Gator checks require an easy push to click on, Hornady require a very firm push, both lock on when sized .4595.
I shot some today, very good groups so long as I kept below 1800fps.
That is getting a little stout on recoil. best accuracy was at 1650fps.
I shall post targets tonight.

drinks
08-31-2006, 10:48 PM
Here is the target.
50 yds, WC 844, Dacron filler.
Left group, 46gr, 1640fps.
Right group, 52gr, 1820 fps.
I did get in a bit of a hurry with the 52gr loads and did not allow enough cooling time between shots, as the barrel heated up. the group started moving down, the first five are not bad.
I see I have cut off the last shot, it is cutting the last ring, on the centerline.

Ranch Dog
09-01-2006, 06:24 AM
drinks...

That looks like a Caldwell 4-Spot Rifle Target which means the bullseye is 1" and the rings are graduated in 1/2" increments. That is some impressive shooting! Or, as we say in the southern part of the State... definitely Minute of Hog!!! :drinks:

drinks
09-01-2006, 10:31 AM
I have a Handi, barrel is floated with an "O" ring, has a 2x LER scope mounted far enough forward to clear the hammer.
The barrel is .450x.4565" and it shoots just about anything at least well enough for pigs to 100yds.
I have shot 200gr to 500 gr, plain base, hollow base and gas check and all have done well.
The only jacketed bullet through it was the proof load NEF shot.
This 350 bullet may be my most useful, I had been concentrating on a RCBS 320gr gc, but this has a bit better BC and stretches the PBR another 10 yds.

Ranch Dog
09-01-2006, 10:54 AM
I have a Handi, barrel is floated with an "O" ring, has a 2x LER scope mounted far enough forward to clear the hammer.
The barrel is .450x.4565" and it shoots just about anything at least well enough for pigs to 100yds.
I have shot 200gr to 500 gr, plain base, hollow base and gas check and all have done well.
The only jacketed bullet through it was the proof load NEF shot.
This 350 bullet may be my most useful, I had been concentrating on a RCBS 320gr gc, but this has a bit better BC and stretches the PBR another 10 yds.

I "have/had" one of the few Handi's chambered in 444 Marlin (500 of them). A wayward son-in-law has it and if I catch up with him I'm going to get it back.

6pt-sika
09-01-2006, 04:47 PM
I "have/had" one of the few Handi's chambered in 444 Marlin (500 of them). A wayward son-in-law has it and if I catch up with him I'm going to get it back.



I started to buy one of the H&R's with the laminated stock in 450 Marlin 3 or 4 times but never did . Now that they have quit making them I would really really like one :???:

May send the action from my 500 S&W back to them and have them fit a 450 barrel .

drinks
09-01-2006, 08:19 PM
6pt;
The only difference between a .450 Marlin and a .45-70 is the cost of the cases, loads are the same, in the same action.
I recently rechambered my Handi .44 mag. barrel to .445 Super Mag.
It is not quite up to a full bore .444, but it is very close.
I have duplicated the .45-70 300gr factory load,1800fps, with a 315gr rfgc, actually got 1890fps with 38gr of WC 680.
It does talk back, but no more than a 320gr at 1800fps in .45-70.

6pt-sika
09-02-2006, 11:32 AM
6pt;
The only difference between a .450 Marlin and a .45-70 is the cost of the cases, loads are the same, in the same action.
.


Since I already have Marlin levers in 45-70 and 450 Marlin that point is irrelavent :coffee:

dragonrider
09-02-2006, 02:08 PM
Finaly got to range with this bullet. I think I am going to like this one. pic below shows first ten rounds. Only problem is this group was 12 inches to the left of th target I was aiming at. I had three targets up and was aiming for the middle one. I had removed the scope a while back and when I replaced it I did so with the rotation off by 90 degrees, can't believe I did not notice that, I'll correct it the next time at the range, only had the ten rounds so didn't bother.
Range 50 yards.
Powder 3031, 40 grains,
I have always gotten a lot of unburned powder left in the barrel with this powder and this time was no exception.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/PaulGauthier/460-350GB.jpg

I am not very steady when shooting even from the bench so I am sure it will shoot better than what I can get.

Ranch Dog
09-02-2006, 11:13 PM
Glad to see this boolit doing so good in the Northeast!!!

glock3540
09-03-2006, 07:42 PM
I finally got to shoot some yesterday. 40gr of Rl7 produced 1.5 inch 5 shot groups at 100 yds with open sights. I was really impressed. These cronographed around 1680 fps. I plan on upping the charge until I get around 1800fps, hopefully the groups stay this small

Edward429451
09-04-2006, 03:05 AM
<40gr of Rl7 produced 1.5 inch 5 shot groups at 100 yds with open sights. I was really impressed. These cronographed around 1680 fps.>

Whoa. 40.0 gr of RL7 got you 1680?...

I loaded mine with 50.0 gr of RL7. I wonder what those were doing! (I didn't check my chrony batt before I went and of course it was dead..

Think I broke 2000fps?!

I used a 18.5" GG, what'd you use?

dltaskey
09-04-2006, 08:49 AM
Got down to some serious cast this rainy weekend with my new 460-350 and Ranch Dog's 375 molds. Using w/w and 3% tin at max temp on my Lee pot, I got .457 across the part line and.460 perpendicular to the part line with the 460 mold and .388 round for the 375. Gas checks have to be beat on the 375 and fall off the 460 even after sizing. Guess I need to hog out the gas shanks on the 460 mold a little! I sprayed the 375 with mold release and squished them a little in my vise but cant seem to get them down enough to cram them through my sizer, wah!

Ranch Dog
09-04-2006, 09:04 AM
Donald and others...

There seems to be a range of molds that don't have a good shank to gas check fit, probably a cutter worn or replaced during the run. If you are interested in returning them to Lee, I will get on the phone to Pat or do whatever it takes.

You must be connected as I only let one copy of the TLC379-210-RF leave the ranch... My GCs are hard to install unless I anneal them and then they just snap on. Have you shot this boolit yet?

drinks
09-04-2006, 10:45 AM
Michael;
My shank is fine, now, and the bullet shoots plenty good enough, so I do not plan to return mine.
If anyone needs to borrow a reamer to open the gas check shank on their mold, pm me.
We might get a forwarding plan set up.

Nrut
09-04-2006, 03:17 PM
Hello drinks....I am having the same prblem with the gas checks popping of as you had (sizing with both .459 & .460 sizers).....what are you using for a reamer or is it something you made yourself?....I'm using straight WW and could probably fatten the bullets up with lino-type but don't have that much lino left....:)

drinks
09-04-2006, 05:32 PM
Nrut;
I made mine, not a big deal.
Another member has asked for it, I shall mail it to him tomorrow.
I have asked him to send it to the next person needing it, and so on.
If enough people get in line, I shall make at least one more and start it circulating.
Only takes about 1 hour to make it.
Don

Nrut
09-04-2006, 07:14 PM
Thanks drinks....
I will enlarge mine with a scraping tool that I use to modify molds now and then.....:)

charger 1
09-04-2006, 07:30 PM
Well thats good and all but I'm sure Lee likes this,along with the 425 gr we got commin along with God knows how many other GB's from them. I'm hearing more than less of these being undesirable. I Have nothing to say about sending them back as I dont own one,but could it possibly be time to send one over the bow at lee. Something to the effect. Dear Sir,We have experience a more than comfortqable amount of size problems with our purchase of late,etc,etc,etc?

waksupi
09-04-2006, 08:02 PM
Well thats good and all but I'm sure Lee likes this,along with the 425 gr we got commin along with God knows how many other GB's from them. I'm hearing more than less of these being undesirable. I Have nothing to say about sending them back as I dont own one,but could it possibly be time to send one over the bow at lee. Something to the effect. Dear Sir,We have experience a more than comfortqable amount of size problems with our purchase of late,etc,etc,etc?

Considering they replaced the molds that were out of spec, I can't see there is much of a fight in that dog.

Ranch Dog
09-04-2006, 09:06 PM
Considering they replaced the molds that were out of spec, I can't see there is much of a fight in that dog.

I agree with you waksupi... In light of all the variables in a buy, I think they do a good job. I mean, not two of us are casting with the same alloy. It's just not possible unless two of us are purchasing a certified alloy. Purchasing a certified alloy kind of go's against the grain of the home caster I believe. I think that is rule #1... scrounge.

I gas checked 300 of the TLC460-350-RFBs today, my checks snap on and are secure. I ran them through a Lee .460 Sizing Die and one more coat in the morning and I'm ready to go. I cast with 1 to 1, WW/linotype but I don't know how pure that linotype is. I'm sure the old printing shop I bought it from had cycled it a bunch of times. I do cast hotter than hell as these boolits need the heat to fillout... 800+

Nrut
09-04-2006, 10:13 PM
I agree with you waksupi... In light of all the variables in a buy, I think they do a good job. I mean, not two of us are casting with the same alloy. It's just not possible unless two of us are purchasing a certified alloy. Purchasing a certified alloy kind of go's against the grain of the home caster I believe. I think that is rule #1... scrounge.

I gas checked 300 of the TLC460-350-RFBs today, my checks snap on and are secure. I ran them through a Lee .460 Sizing Die and one more coat in the morning and I'm ready to go. I cast with 1 to 1, WW/linotype but I don't know how pure that linotype is. I'm sure the old printing shop I bought it from had cycled it a bunch of times. I do cast hotter than hell as these boolits need the heat to fillout... 800+

Linotype up to 50% of the mix will fatten bullets from what I have read...I have never tested that theory myself.......you are right about the high temp as I had to get the mold quite hot for fill-out......
I just finished scraping the shank on one cavity on my RD mold and now the gas checks barely snap on.......now for the other cavity........:)

drinks
09-05-2006, 05:36 PM
I have 4 TL molds and all need to be poured hot and fast, I had thought the modified TL groove might not take as much heat, being wider, but it still needs a lot of hot.

MGySgt
09-05-2006, 09:29 PM
Nrut;
I made mine, not a big deal.
Another member has asked for it, I shall mail it to him tomorrow.
I have asked him to send it to the next person needing it, and so on.
If enough people get in line, I shall make at least one more and start it circulating.
Only takes about 1 hour to make it.
Don

How do I get on the list? I am using GC I got from Creeker and they work fine at 459, but I would really like to be able to use up the 4000 plus Hornady's I have.

Drew

Edward429451
09-05-2006, 09:59 PM
<If anyone needs to borrow a reamer to open the gas check shank on their mold, pm me.
We might get a forwarding plan set up.>

Put me on the list!

Am I going to need a drill press for this ream job?

straightshooter
09-06-2006, 06:39 AM
I would be grateful if I too could get a chance to use the reamer.
Jeff

charger 1
09-06-2006, 06:53 AM
I would be grateful if I too could get a chance to use the reamer.
Jeff


I would be grateful if the 460 420gr lee GB didnt need to be rediddled

Ranch Dog
09-06-2006, 08:08 AM
I would be grateful if the 460 420gr lee GB didnt need to be rediddled

AMEN TO THAT BROTHER!

drinks
09-06-2006, 03:00 PM
A drill press makes it easier to keep things square, but I do not use power to the press, just turn the chuck with one hand and keep the mold flat on the table with the other.
I have reamed other molds just using pliers to hold and turn the reamer and eyeball the mold square, have not messed one up yet.

Edward429451
09-06-2006, 03:13 PM
Thanks drinks.

glock3540
09-06-2006, 03:19 PM
<40gr of Rl7 produced 1.5 inch 5 shot groups at 100 yds with open sights. I was really impressed. These cronographed around 1680 fps.>

Whoa. 40.0 gr of RL7 got you 1680?...

I loaded mine with 50.0 gr of RL7. I wonder what those were doing! (I didn't check my chrony batt before I went and of course it was dead..

Think I broke 2000fps?!

I used a 18.5" GG, what'd you use?

I was using my 1895 22" barrel. I plan on hitting the range later this week with heavier charges. I'll let you know what they crono.

dltaskey
09-06-2006, 08:30 PM
I definootly need on the reamer list! I'm tired of picking gas checks out of my sizer after trying to squish them on.

drinks
09-06-2006, 11:10 PM
Please pm me, first come.
I have made another reamer and can make some more easily, let's just get in line.
Don

straightshooter
09-08-2006, 05:48 AM
I would very much like to borrow the reamer
JB

dltaskey
09-11-2006, 10:03 PM
Got out to the range with this bad boy today. Shazaam! I was impressed! At 50 yds with XS Ghost Ring setup, they all went into a 25 yd rapid fire pistol bullseye target, in the bullseye! Course, I was only using 13 gr of Unique but still not exactly a "cat-sneeze". Don't know if the gas checks got that far or not.

Ken O
09-11-2006, 10:56 PM
I'm real happy with mine, no problem with fill-out, I used staight WW, and my Gator checks snapped right on, the lead gods must be smilely on me. I ran some across the Chrony, and 50gr of IMR3031 averaged 1605 fps in the '95 GG. This has been my most accurate boolit/load, I still dont really like to mess with theTL, but this ones worth it.

drinks
09-12-2006, 08:31 PM
To those to whom I have sent reamers, please post when you are done and have others pm you with their address, do not send any back to me.
Don

Edward429451
09-13-2006, 02:06 AM
I got your reamer today. Very ingenious! A GC snapped right on it so I ran over to my buddy's who has a drill press and chucked it up and went for it. I just eyeballed the depth and closed the mould around it while twisting by hand. It only took about ten minutes and it was done.

A few swipes with a hard stone broke the edges off the top and I was ready to cast. By the time the lead melted the sun was behind the mountain so I didnt cast many, maybe 50 or so but every single one took a GC perfectly. Snaps right on with thumb pressure.

Thanks drinks! That was easy thanks to the reamer. Looking at the boolits and mould, I can't even tell it was modified or touched with a tool. Perfection. Now I know how Tim Taylor feels when he don't blow up the house. har har har!

It goesd back out in tomorrows mail to whoever it was that already PM'ed me, I have to check who that was...

Leftoverdj
09-15-2006, 09:50 PM
I have another of Drink's reamers ready to go to the next person that needs it. Took me about 20 minutes to do a six cavity mould and it worked perfectly. All six cavities are a snap fit with my ancient Lyman checks. I chucked reamer in my drill press, locked the blocks in a compound vise, lowered the reamer until it just touched the band forward of the shank and turned by hand.

Looks to me like Lee put too much taper on the shank. The reamer only cut about a 1/16" right at the base of the bullet. If I am right on this, the Gator rifle checks are working because they are tall enough to reach the fatter portion.

If I'm wrong, it won't be the first time. I even got married once.

Thanks, Drinks!

charger 1
09-16-2006, 05:38 AM
So uh whats dis reamer look like?

MGySgt
09-16-2006, 11:41 AM
The other Reamer is ready to be passed on. Took longer to setup to ream the mold then it did to actually ream them out.

Didn't think I took any out so went through them a 2nd time - didn't think I did there either - but there was a burr on the top and after I honed it there was one on the inside.

Pot and mold heating up now.

Who is next? PM me with an address and I will get it off to you.

Drew

By the way - Thank you Drinks for making these and making them available to the rest of us!

drinks
09-16-2006, 09:18 PM
You are all very welcome.
Don

straightshooter
09-17-2006, 06:32 AM
[QUOTE=MGySgt;105364]The other Reamer is ready to be passed on. Took longer to setup to ream the mold then it did to actually ream them out.

Please send to

Jeff Breitman
99 North Broadway
Tarrytown, NY 10591

Thank you
JB

MGySgt
09-17-2006, 08:54 AM
JB - Reamer will go out tomorrow.

Drew

Ranch Dog
09-17-2006, 09:39 PM
Hey fellows...

Follow this link through the 4570 Reloading Data and Load From a Disk data...http://home.awesomenet.net/~ranch-dog/Casting/TLC460350RF/


I would like to know if you would find this type of info helpful before I go through the trouble of setting it up for all the other RD boolits. I would like to have you guys pass along your load data and I would get it posted. Same thing with targets are the game taken... I would like to get it all posted.

Edward429451
09-17-2006, 10:35 PM
I think it's a great idea and I'm very interested in the data it would provide. I had a good battery today so collected some data with this TLC460-350-RFB and am pretty interested in what pressure range I'm in with 50.0 gr RL7. No high pressure signs and it shoots great, Here's the data.

Marlin 1895G (18.5")
TLC460-350-RFB
WW, water quenched
.460 Red Rooster hard lube (Horn. GC's)
1/2 turn crimp
40.0 gr RL7
Mixed RP Brass 3F/1T
Fed 210 LR Primers
1612 FPS (AVG 10 @ 15')
Extreme Spread 106 FPS
AVG DEV 40 FPS

Marlin 1895G (18.5")
TLC460-350-RFB
WW, water quenched
.460 Red Rooster hard lube (Horn. GC's)
1/2 turn crimp
50.0 gr RL7
W-W Brass 1F/1T
Fed 210 LR Primers
1886 FPS (AVG 10 @ 15')
Extreme Spread 60 FPS
AVG DEV 11 FPS
This is one sweet shootin load.

Anyone know what the BC of this boolit is?

Ranch Dog
09-17-2006, 11:32 PM
Thanks Edward, this is the kind of stuff I'm looking for. Here is what I projected for the BC on the boolit and as soon as I can I will shoot a two chrony string to verify what this calculation indicates.

MGySgt
09-18-2006, 08:50 PM
Well - The other reamer showed up today in the mail. As I have already used one of them - Who is next?

PM, E-mail or post here and I will get it off post haste!

Drew

Wildcat
09-19-2006, 08:46 AM
Sent you a P.M.

Edward429451
09-19-2006, 12:20 PM
Thanks RD. Just off the cuff, do you think my 50 gr load at 1886 sounds max? I suspect it is what with the oversized boolit, no published data, and every CB that I load lately seems to give significant higher velocities than any book says. I don't want to push my luck.

I have no flattened primers but is weight & velocity enough to guesstimate pressure reliably? I think it is when loading boolits that have published data but lean towards thinking that the oversized boolits would skew any extrapolations.

I doubt I need it going that fast anyway. Maybe I should tame it down a little. But judging from the data of the 2 loads with RL7 this boolit likes warmer loads.

MGySgt
09-19-2006, 06:17 PM
[QUOTE=Edward429451;106088]Just off the cuff, do you think my 50 gr load at 1886 sounds max? QUOTE]

According to Quick load - you are about 39,000+ if you ain't at max you are very close to it!

That is with:

COL = 2.474
Case length = 2.085

Drew

Edward429451
09-19-2006, 06:31 PM
I was at 2.480 OAL and cases were trimmed to 2.090

Which would prolly drop it some but OMG thats a Ruger #1 load. Yes, methinks I'll tone that one down a bit. Pity because it shoots so well.

Marlins are 28,000 cup, right? Dang. It's a wonder I didn't KB, though I have heard of people loading LA's to 40K.

Wow, I knew it felt stiff but had no clue I was way up there. Just an inkling that I might have been higher than I wanted to go.

If you have enough time, could you run the 40.0 gr load through Quick Load and see what that says? Thanks!

MGySgt
09-19-2006, 06:56 PM
You figures dropped it about 50 PSI. Now - I use Star line brass - if you are using WW or Rem, it would drop it some more (thinner brass = less case capacity).

There is a following that says you can take the Marlins to over 40,000, after all the 444 is loaded that high.

However - in my humble opinion 1800+ FPS with any cast/lead bullet that is not up in the high 20' BRN is going to fail. To get it that hard you have to heat treat them and not use Antinioum to get them that hard. Straight WW heat treated in an oven at 450+ degrees for over an hour and then quick quinched (I mean with in 1 or 2 seconds) will get to 28 plus BRN, I have done it.

I stay well under 1700 with cast and rely on weight/mass to do the killing for me.

This works for me.

Drew

Edward429451
09-19-2006, 09:10 PM
Thanks Drew, yeah I was using W-W brass. They were not heat treated but were quenched. I sent some quenched ww boolits off to one of the board members and he tested them to 27 (IIRC) and dropped to 20 in 2 weeks. No matter though cuz this one is getting trimmed back. Sheesh 40.0 gr gave me 1612 fps so thats where I need to be. I just need to play with that one a bit to see if I can get it shooting better.

Ranch Dog
09-19-2006, 11:18 PM
Edward... Sorry I'm a little bit behind here. I had a lightning strike on my place and my high speed is out amoung other things...

78CJ
09-20-2006, 11:57 AM
Does anyone have a pic of the reamer? Is it something I could make up around home?

I cast some the other night and since I don't have a thermometer I can not say for sure but it seems that I can not get things hot enough. I am casting wheel weights straight and am having trouble getting fillout. I tried to watch for zinc weights when smelting and out of about 250 lbs I just did not see anything suspicious. I cranked my lee 10# all of the way up but the lead just does not seem to want to fill very easily. I had pretty much decided that my first smelt job last year was contaminated but now I think that I am just not getting hot enough.

I did notice that my best fills came from putting the mold right against the spout and kind of pressure filling. Now I am getting 2/3 of the diameter filled and 1/3 with rounded frosty edges. None of my bullets come out shiny.

Anyway, I am just rambling out of frustration. Frustration of seeing perfect bullets come from everyone else but me. My very first cast session with the RD TLC 285 last year did yield me a bunch of keepers but I just can not cast crap now. This is only my third try but c'mon.

I have some pure lead pipe that I think I am going to melt down and try a little to see if I can get fillout. If I can not then I will look at the pot thermostat, I just hate having to mess with that crap.

Anyway, as for the bullets I did cast from this mold, I checked a few and they were round and at .460". The checks I have are Lyman and go on but come off rather easily. I will probably shoot the couple that I have but I need to probably ream the mold.

Thanks for listening

Ryan

Bodydoc447
09-20-2006, 03:18 PM
I am not trying to be a smart aleck. You probably did all the things we usually suggest. But when I have trouble getting fill out, I go back to the basics and reclean the mould thoroughly with Dawn and a soft bristle toothbrush. I sometimes get stuff out at this step that I didn't the first time. Preheating my mould on the top of my Lee dripper, or more recently on a El Cheapo hotplate with a sheet of 1/4" AL on it helps to get good fillout faster. I use the hotplate to preheat ingots, too. Let everything get up to temp and just keep casting. Sometimes a particular mould need to cast several dozen throws before it will be of uniform temperature and start to give you "keepers."

Doc

bsn
09-20-2006, 06:49 PM
I am done with the reamer whoever wants it next let me know, and I will head it your way.

MGySgt
09-20-2006, 07:05 PM
I
If you have enough time, could you run the 40.0 gr load through Quick Load and see what that says? Thanks!

Sorry - Missed this the last time I read it.

40.0 = a little over 21,000 PSI and about 1640FPS.

Drew

drinks
09-20-2006, 08:32 PM
78CJ;
Just pm someone who has finished and get on the list for one of the 3 reamers I have sent out.
The only way I can get fillout with this mold is to get the alloy and mold really hot and then cast as fast as I can get the sprue to set, NOT cooling the mold between casts.

MGySgt
09-20-2006, 09:26 PM
Drinks - By any chance did you break the sharp edge between the halfs? I ladel pour and have not had trouble with the thin bands - of course mine come out just like a cold one - nice and frosty!

Temp about 850 and I do not cool the sprue unless it is real hot outside in the shed. Of course the window AC unit I put in a few weeks ago should keep it cool enough that I don't have to cool the sprues.

Too easy to get them moulds too cool by cooling the sprues.

Drew

drinks
09-20-2006, 09:49 PM
I drag the back of a razor knife over all the edges, then take a q tip and brush everything, any place a thread sticks, I go over again, and I scrub the faces, after smoking, with a q tip with acetone to get the vents clear.
I have never cooled the sprues them selves, I have touched the mold to a damp pad when it was taking longer for the sprues to set than I thought was necessary.
I have 4 TL molds, all need to be hot and poured pretty fast to fill out good, it is just this mold needs a bit more than the others.

Ranch Dog
09-20-2006, 10:48 PM
I was going to answer the latest question but my comments would have been exactly like drinks... I will admit that there have been sessions that go bad from the get go and I just say to hell with it. It's usually when I really don't have the leasure time just to enjoy the casting activity.

I had the pot up to temperature, 775F, for the verification casting of the recently delivered TLC460-425-RFB. I ended up having the mold on the pot for longer than expected as I helped my dad with something. I poured into the mold and the lead wouldn't solidify as the mold had gotten too warm. Not a lot of aluminimum left on the 2-cavity version of this mold! As I'm wondering what to with 850-grains of molten lead ,I dropped the mold on my bench.... holy jalapeņos, I jumped out of the way and didn't get any on me! That's a lot of hot lead flying through the air!!!

78CJ
09-21-2006, 06:34 AM
RD, please don't think I am complaining about the mold. I believe that whatever I am doing wrong is only exaggerated by the smaller bands. I know the problem is with me since the last thing I tried was to get a Lee single cavity 405 gr. plain base to fill out and could not even get the wrinkles out of the nose.

The 285 was the first mold I had ever tried and with the new pot it seemed I could do no wrong. Then I cast some 405's and they came out great. Since that first time I just seem to be having trouble. But I think you are right, every time I am limited on time and it just seems to not go right.

One thought I had was to add some tin. How much 95/5 should I add to a 10# pot of straight wheel weights?

Thanks

Ryan

drinks
09-21-2006, 05:23 PM
If your problem is lack of Tin, I would think a foot or so would be plenty to get good fillout.

Edward429451
09-21-2006, 06:03 PM
Thanks RD and Drew!

bsn
09-21-2006, 06:09 PM
I am done with the reamer whoever wants it next let me know, and I will head it your way.

Ranch Dog
09-21-2006, 10:02 PM
Ryan...

Didn't take the question as a complaint. I assume the 95/5 is 1# bars? If so, 10 bars would give you 9 1/2# of lead to 1/2# tin. I kind of consider 1 to 10 a minimum for good fill out. You are going to need to add a 1/2# of tin to those 10 bars in your pot.

Again I would just work with what you have and cast hotter for starts. Keep heating them until they get a frosty appearance and see if they fill better.

bsn
09-22-2006, 07:54 AM
If anyone is done with a reamer I had two members contact me for the one I was done with after it was spoken for.

Mojo^ and charlie / sw mo

78CJ
09-22-2006, 10:58 AM
RD, I have some solder in a small roll left over from building my house. I forget how much the rolls weigh but I think I will just roll out a # like you were saying and add it to my pot once it is full. I will have to weigh my ingots out because we made the mold from scratch and I don't know how much they weigh. If this does not work I am toying with the idea of sending someone a few bars to try casting from. This will tell me if its me or the alloy. I am also going to swipe the mechanics infrared thermometer from work today and fire up the pot and see how hot I can get things.

Do you see any problems with shooting the few that I cast that are so-so before reaming for better gas check fit. I am sure I can fit them on the bullet and keep them in place to get the bullet seated. I just want to see how these few shoot. Of course I won't base anything on these non perfect bullet but I just can't wait. It is too easy to be impatient when you can shoot in the back yard.

Ryan

bsn
09-22-2006, 01:36 PM
That "loose" gas check will be on tight by the time it leaves the barrel due to a combination of 28,000+ psi and the rifling compressing the bullet on its way out. These molds need to be cleaned really well the first time and heated up quite a bit to fill the grooves. It shoots very well. Your reamer will be on the way today or tomorrow.

Ranch Dog
09-22-2006, 02:33 PM
Ryan, I wouldn't hesitate to shoot them. Might as well!

78CJ
09-23-2006, 11:36 PM
Well, we fired up the pot today and were trying to get things hot. The infrared said the surface was about 650 and we tried casting some to no avail. All the time I was telling myself that this cannot be that hard. We were getting wrinkled noses and poor fillout with all three molds. The latest RD mold, an original TLC 285 , and a single cavity Lee 405 plain base single cavity that would not cast a bullet to save its aluminum rear!!!! I was just getting ready to post every thing for sale when Todd took the propane torch and heated the TLC460-350-RFB for about 5 min and started casting absolutely perfect bullets!!!! I mean perfect. I was blown away!! All in all by the end of the day, by pre heating all three molds it seemed we were on the right track.

My conclusion is: the Lee furnace is getting the lead just about there but not enough to heat the mould. The 650 we were getting with the infrared was just a surface temp and I am starting to think that realistically it is getting around 800. But by heatiing the moulds with the torch it is getting us far enough along for the lead to keep the temp of the mould up, where as before it just could not keep up. The gas checks are still loose but we will take care of that when the reamer gets here. (Thanks drinks).

We were having so much fun that we even tried the put a 50 cal round ball on top of the mould until it melts and top it off with pot lead to make some soft point hunting bullets trick!!!! (Boy you think a sprue took long to cool before).

And to top the day off my roofing contractor neighbor just gave me about 200# of flashing lead.

Thank you everyone for your help and encouragement, when things don't work it really is frustrating but when they finally work out you feel great.. I will give a range report soon.

Ryan

dltaskey
09-24-2006, 09:20 AM
Wah, I guess the reamer that was coming to me went somewhere else first. Who's got one that hasn't been spoken for?

Ranch Dog
09-24-2006, 09:58 PM
Ryan,

Do you heat the mold like Lee says to do it... dipping the mold in the molting lead for about 30 seconds?

78CJ
09-25-2006, 06:54 AM
Michael,

I was doing that in the very beginning and maybe that was why I was getting ok results then. People would talk that they were just casting a dozen or so to get the mold to temp and that is what I started doing. And now I believe the my lead just is not hot enough to make it work this way.

I got some lubed up this weekend and ran a few through my .460 sizer even with the loose gas checks and they are coming out at about .4585. That is a bummer. I guess I will have to do a little honing on the sizer.

Another thing I ran into now is that I let the mold sit about an 1/8" into a full pot to get some of the .490 round balls to melt into the cavities and it seems in doing this I have gotten lead in and around my alignment pins. It is a pain to get out.

Ryan

Leftoverdj
09-25-2006, 11:02 PM
I've just started shooting this bullet. First batch was aircooled WW, and I wasted a day finding out that that was a mistake. More than very modest charges opened my groups way up. I actually backed down with H 4198 from 32.0 to 30.0 to 28.0 before I got a decent group from my Handi and ran out of daylight.

I have a batch heat treated that I'll check and lube tonight before starting over.

Edward429451
09-26-2006, 07:33 PM
I had amazing results with RX7, very consistent. The hotter loads were even better.

78CJ
09-28-2006, 02:05 PM
Alright, I am done with the reamer and it will be on its way today to MOJO as he was the first one to p.m. me.

I did put a little nick in one cavity but I am hopeful that this will not cause a problem.

I had cast 86 good bullets and gave 43 to my buddy and kept 43. This was prior to reaming and the gas checks are kind of glued on with liquid alox. I have been trying to find some load data but wanted to wait until I could weigh them. I did this today and the average of 43 bullets with gas check lubed twice with LLA gave me 359.68 grains. So I am looking at bumping down some 350 grain lead bullet data.

Any suggestions for IMR 4198, H4895, H335, H322

Thanks

Ryan

Last Spike
09-29-2006, 03:28 AM
My experience:

I bought 2 moulds

Using WW, Mould "A" cast boolits averaging 348 grains and .458-.459 diameter

Mould "B" cast boolits averaging 349.5 grains and .459-.460 diameter

All air cooled.

Initial bullets were a bit wrinkled but improved once I used the blow torch on each mould for a minute or so to warm it up a bit more.

I used the .459-.460 diameter bullets lubed with Lee's Alox/beeswax mix. Hornady gas checks were used and no problems with loose checks were encountered. No sizing was done as my 1895 CB's groove diameter was .4595

Using Winchester brass and Federal 210 primers, I worked up a load with IMR 3031 and found the sweet spot at 46.0 grains with 3 shot groups of 1.5 inches average.

Gun used was a Marlin 1895 CB with 26 inch barrel.

No idea what the speed was but am guessing around 1600 or so fps.

Rounds were pleasant to shoot with.

Have a few rounds left so will be going deer hunting this weekend.:Fire: :-D

Ranch Dog
09-29-2006, 08:57 AM
Any suggestions for IMR 4198, H4895, H335, H322

Ryan...

I changed the boolit weight to 360 grains in my Load From a Disk and it suggested this for my 1895G:

45.4 of IMR 4198 would produce 1804 FPS at 36.0 CUP.
48.4 of IMR 4198 would produce 1924 FPS at 40.9 CUP.

I put together a quick graph in Excel using the above data so you could visualize the data. I use this software quite a bit and like limiting my load data for my Marlins to approximately 40.0K CUP. I start at 10% the 40.0K charge (47.8-grains of IMR 4198).

This is my own witchcraft so use this data at your own risk. I have also included a table of Hodgdon powder loads I would consider. These are limits, and nothing to do with a boolit shooting good. If you know the BHN of the boolit you are shooting, you can use a pressure factor to reduce the charge of Hodgdon powder to match the compression strength of your boolit. That is the point the boolit usually shoots good.

Ranch Dog
09-29-2006, 08:59 AM
Have a few rounds left so will be going deer hunting this weekend.:Fire: :-D

Good luck Last Spike, I would like to see that "first" photo for the Trophy Room!!!

Last Spike
10-02-2006, 06:35 PM
Went hunting on the weekend, saw a number of deer, but didn't get good shooting presentations. :( I still have 2 months to go...:)

Mojo^
10-02-2006, 07:06 PM
78CJ, thanks for the reamer.

The reamer will be on it's way to Zuke within the next 48 hours.

straightshooter
10-02-2006, 08:28 PM
Please contact me for reamer.
jeff

straightshooter
10-03-2006, 06:23 AM
Reamer spoken for. the next person will send it on.
JB

Dr. A
10-06-2006, 02:57 PM
Got another reamer here. Anyone want it?

Uncle Grinch
10-08-2006, 10:19 PM
I could use the reamer if one is available.

PM me and I'll give you my address info.

rvpilot76
10-10-2006, 12:47 AM
Just finished reaming my mold today. PM me with an addy and it's yours. Good luck!

Kevin

Uncle Grinch
10-13-2006, 03:18 PM
I got the reamer today and had my mould reamed in very short order.

Who needs it now? PM me please.

zuke
10-15-2006, 03:17 PM
I'm done with the reamer. Who need's it next?
Send me a P.M.

dltaskey
10-20-2006, 05:19 PM
Thanks to Zuke, I'm done with this reamer now. Up for grabs, PM me.

Ranch Dog
10-21-2006, 06:58 AM
Thanks to Zuke, I'm done with this reamer now. Up for grabs, PM me.

PM sent, I will give it a try.

LIMPINGJ
11-10-2006, 12:19 AM
I finished my mold and just need to know who needs it next.
Jim

mommicked
11-11-2006, 02:56 PM
I got one of these molds from the Marlin Owners site, and just found my way over here. I hope to start using the mold January or so. Haven't even warmed it yet, but looking forward to. I've done paper patched, but no GC bullets yet. What GCs to use, and what does the reamer do, make it easier to install GCs? Please bear with my ignorance. (Yeah, I know, how many folks use a patch and don't know how to GC?)

Edward429451
11-11-2006, 03:13 PM
The reamer opens up the top of the mould at the GC shank (lee made the shank undersized and GC's wouldn't fit for looseness and would come off). GC's are applied in a luber/sizer machine during the lube stroke and easy as pie.

Once I reamed my mould, both Hornady and Gator checks work good and stay put.

Maineboy
11-17-2006, 10:22 PM
I finally was able to try this mould and it seemed to be quite a chore to get going. As everyone else has discovered, everything has to be HOT to make it work. Once I started getting good boolits I ran off about 150 with very few visable rejects, however, when I put the micrometer to them I was a bit surprised. One of the cavities drops nice boolits that measure .459+ all the way up and down the body. The other measures about the same on the top and bottom bands and about .456-457 on the middle bands. I haven't weighed them yet. Hornady gas checks are a nice snug fit.

alamogunr
11-17-2006, 11:55 PM
I've been busy lately and haven't had time to check this mold out. If one of the reamers is still making the rounds, I would like to get in line to use it. If whoever has one of them and doesn't have anyone next on the list, PM me for an address. I know it sounds kind of hoky to ream a mold I haven't tried but by the time I try it, I might not be able to find a reamer and I've got a bunch of Gator checks.
John

Ranch Dog
11-18-2006, 01:56 AM
alamogunr...

I'm done with the reamer and will send it out Monday. I have your address from the group buy.

Mainboy...

If your mold isn't casting to the .460", you can return it to Lee.

alamogunr
11-18-2006, 03:12 PM
alamogunr...

I'm done with the reamer and will send it out Monday. I have your address from the group buy.
.



Thanks, Ranch Dog. Include instructions on where to send it when I'm finished. Or if you prefer, I'll hold it for the next one that needs it. I wouldn't want to hold it too long. My shop is full of stuff that I know is there but I can't find.

glock3540
11-23-2006, 02:07 PM
I'm done with one of the reamers. If anyone wants it, email me at epavlik@yahoo.com. I only get to check this page every few days so it's easier to use my email

Ranch Dog
12-02-2006, 02:00 PM
I finally have a BC calculated from two velocities. It is corrected by my Shooting Lab software for sea level and a standard atmosphere... .279. My load is a light load, just looking for something that will kill a whitetail out to 100-yards and not rattle my teeth!

I've been prepping my 1895G and getting ready to hit the woods...

I sent the reamer I used to alamogunr, when the two reamers have made their cycle I would like to hang on one or both as I imagine I will honcho the next buy on these molds. Only two cavities on mold need the reaming and my TLC460-425-RFB was fine.

alamogunr
12-02-2006, 03:16 PM
I sent the reamer I used to alamogunr, when the two reamers have made their cycle I would like to hang on one or both as I imagine I will honcho the next buy on these molds. Only two cavities on mold need the reaming and my TLC460-425-RFB was fine.

I received the reamer in the mail today. I should be finished with it by the middle of next week (will have the stitches removed by then. Don't want to get too close to any rotating tool until then. DON'T ASK). I will hold on to it for awhile until someone else wants to use it. If I send it back to Ranch Dog right away, he might get stuck with unnecessary postage. If no one asks for it in the next several weeks, I'll send it back to him, or sooner if he wants it.
John

1894CL
12-02-2006, 03:25 PM
I received the other reamer today and am done with it already. If any one needs it send me an email and I'll get it sent. Thanks.

mikeldodds@yahoo.com

Ranch Dog
12-02-2006, 04:34 PM
Alamo... You can make hang on to it until after the first of the year or whatever... no more buys until then...

Uncle Grinch
12-02-2006, 10:11 PM
I too have one of the reamers if anyone needs it. Or I can return it to it's owner (if I knew who that is!!)

It worked great!!

Ranch Dog
12-02-2006, 11:35 PM
I believe drinks made the reamers... please correct me if I'm wrong....

1894CL
12-03-2006, 11:48 AM
RD, if you do another buy on this mold I'll take another two holer. I think this is just about the perfect bullet for for my Marlin!!

Ranch Dog
12-03-2006, 11:14 PM
I think this is just about the perfect bullet for for my Marlin!!

Yeap, got lucky with this one as it is a hoss both in my 95G and 95MR. It even has changed my dad from a Winchester guy to a Marlin guy.

alamogunr
12-04-2006, 06:21 PM
Alamo... You can make hang on to it until after the first of the year or whatever... no more buys until then...

I just finished reaming my mold. Decided that rotating tools didn't apply to those that I rotated by hand. The reamer took some material out of each cavity. It seemed that in 5 cavities that only a taper was removed. In one cavity the reamer removed some material over the entire gas check seat. Is this about the same experience others had?

I'll hold the reamer until after the 1st or until someone needs it. Many thanks to the maker of the reamers and to those who kept them in circulation.

John

Ranch Dog
04-11-2007, 10:57 AM
Greetings fellows, I finally have some reloading data collected from my pressure trace equipment. The shooting, formatting and web page construction has taken a huge amount of time. The first chart is for the 450 Marlin and H4198. I should be able to add the 45-70 tomorrow. I plan on adding one Hodgdon powder a week for both rifles until this project is complete. As always your comments are appreciated.

Click my web page link and then click on TLC460-350-RF and follow the links to the 450 Marlin Reloading Data.