,45 Cal. Hollow Point mold

[2_Smithereenz]

Does anybody know of any company that makes a .45 auto bullet mold in 180gr. or 200gr. Hollow point?
I like the Lee 6 cav. 200gr. round flat point bullet design, but I would like that same bullet in a hollow point, if that makes sense?
Thanks, Chris

[HeavyMetal]

Lyman still makes, I think, the 45 auto "devestator" HP mold.

This is a 180 grain HP boolit. It is a variation of a round nose boolit and feeds very well in 5 45 auto's I've tried it in.

[wistlepig1]

I think there is one on the GROUP BUY--- if it's not closed!
45,200 gr, cramer HP

[2_Smithereenz]

I think there is one on the GROUP BUY--- if it's not closed!
45,200 gr, cramer HP

I went to the group buy and I can't tell beans from apples. It's really confusing for a new guy who hasn't ever heard of a Group Buy. I did go the the group buy purchase page and there are molds listed, all 230gr. in the HP category for .45, but I don't have any idea what the boolit looks like, or who makes it, what the mold looks like??
I'm frustrated.

I saw the prices and they are reasonable for what I want to cast, but I don't know how to go about getting my hands on one.:x

[wistlepig1]

I well see if I can find it and check in later

[Dale53]

Here is what the hollow point bullet looks like (loaded in .45 Auto Rim Cases):

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj80/Dale53/4DalesPistolsRevolversSelects-3332.jpg

Here is what the mould looks like (the picture is of a .44 caliber but the mould and hollow point pins are similar:

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj80/Dale53/MiHecCramerStyleBulletMould-3205.jpg

Understand, these are SUPERB moulds and cast extremely well. I have done fifteen pounds of finished hollow point bullets in an hour and fifteen minutes with a very low rejection rate.

The bullet configuration is the round nosed Lyman 452374, with a small flat on the nose to accommodate the hollow point. You can merely switch the hollow point pins, top to bottom, and cast solid points with the same mould. The mould maker is MiHec from Slovenia (Eastern Europe). He does superb work.

NOTE: MiHec is showing these as available on his web site. Do NOT delay - he only has a few extras. ORDER NOW if you don't want to miss the boat.


http://www.mp-molds.com/shopping/pgm-more_information.php?id=2

Dale53

[wistlepig1]

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=81547

Try this!

[Daddyfixit]

http://www.mp-molds.com/shopping/pgm-more_information.php?id=2
Well worth the effort
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=81547

[2_Smithereenz]

Man those are some Sweeeet looking Molds and Boolits!!
That was the info I was looking for Guys, Thank You Very Much! I'm going to place an order and hope he still has some left?
I went to his website and you can buy directly from there also, but I think it's a couple of bucks more?
This is still a way better looking mold than that single cavity Lyman I was looking at on Midway!

Quick question, I know I probably sound stupid for asking this, but what is the difference between the .45 RIM and .45 Auto? I hadn't heard of the .45 Rim before.

[Daddyfixit]

Man those are some Sweeeet looking Molds and Boolits!!
That was the info I was looking for Guys, Thank You Very Much! I'm going to place an order and hope he still has some left?
I went to his website and you can buy directly from there also, but I think it's a couple of bucks more?
This is still a way better looking mold than that single cavity Lyman I was looking at on Midway!

Quick question, I know I probably sound stupid for asking this, but what is the difference between the .45 RIM and .45 Auto? I hadn't heard of the .45 Rim before.

Basicly the rim..Insted of using half moon clips on 45ACP's in revolvers..much nicer to use the 45 RIM and not have to deal with the clips

[RobS]

If you want to go to a 230 grain hollow point here is an option:

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=66230

It is actually a 260 grain solid that can be made into a hollow point. Down further in the tread there is more info and a picture of the hollow point bullet.

[2_Smithereenz]

Basicly the rim..Insted of using half moon clips on 45ACP's in revolvers..much nicer to use the 45 RIM and not have to deal with the clips

Ok, I gotcha.
I guess everybody can tell that I'm not much of a pistol guy?
Been reloading for rifles for several years now and have always owned rifles, but pistols are completely new to me. Just bought my first auto last year, a Glock 20 10mm and been loading for it since I got it, but that's about the extent of my knowledge with pistol ammo. Have never casted anything before in my life, and that's how I wound up here.
Been saving up for a Springfield 1911 and just about got it covered.

I appreciate everybody's patience with educating the new guy on the better aspects of bullet molds and casting.

Thanks, Chris

[Dale53]

Chris;
The price is the same direct from MiHec (it just might include shipping, etc) but, bottom line, it is the same.

Do order from the web site. Due to the late hour in the ordering process, you'll probably be more apt to get it.

The 200 gr hollow point is probably the best bet if you want a hollow point. It allows you to drive the bullet safely at 1000+ fps which should insure the hollow point opening. Heavier weights can not be driven as fast in an auto pistol and can suffer from the hollow point not opening.

At least, that's the theory... (and I agree).

Dale53

[gray wolf]

Good info Dale and the rest of the boys.
If you want a HP point mold that will make you happy go with the Mi Hec mold.
Like Dale said " You can do two kinds of HP's and flat nose "
And when you are not casting you can just sit and look at it.

Sam

[2_Smithereenz]

When I saw this mold and read about the versatility of it, I thought to myself "Wow, that's like 3 or 4 molds in one!"
I have never seen anything like that, I know you won't see a Lee or a Lyman with those capabilities, you have to buy a different mold each time you want a different style/grain boolit.
The price tag is a bit on the high side, but not really when you think about all the different boolits you can make with just one mold. If you look at it that way, it's extremely reasonable.
And yes, it is quite perty to look at!:p

I will have one, that's for sure!

[RobS]

Chris;
The 200 gr hollow point is probably the best bet if you want a hollow point. It allows you to drive the bullet safely at 1000+ fps which should insure the hollow point opening. Heavier weights can not be driven as fast in an auto pistol and can suffer from the hollow point not opening.
At least, that's the theory... (and I agree).

Dale53

A 230 grain hollow point that would have a similar diameter hollow point as the 200 grain then yes I agree on it suffering from expansion issues. Although with a very large hollow point a 230 grain bullet can expand just as nicely.

Just for curiosity what is the hollow point diameter you have with that 200 grain bullet and what is the flat part or meplat diameter on it.

The BRP 230 grainer I am shooting has a .320" meplat with a .263" diameter hollow point opening and cones or funnels down to a depth of .310". Need less to say this bullet expands nicely at 800 to 850 fps from my 45 auto.

One way for some and another way for others.

[RobS]

Here are some pics

[2_Smithereenz]

Here are some pics

Oh yeah, those look great.
I'm going to have to get one of these molds. You all have more than sold me on the man's handy work. Like I said before, I have never seen anything like this in all my prowling around the internet.
I'm solidly convinced that he is the Master of his craft.
Well worth the price tag, and I've seen at least 3 different styles of boolits created with this mold, they all look great.

[RobS]

2 Smithereenz:

Actually these two different bullet designs are from two different people. The 200 grain hollow point bullet is from MiHec and the 230 grain bullet I posted up is from BRP.

Here the 230 grain bullet mold makers link:

http://www.brp.castpics.net/

[geargnasher]

Lyman Devastator, actually I know of three moulds that all drop at 200-205 grains with diluted WW, including mine. Great boolit, but as some have posted there are custom moulds that are even better.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15918&d=1253321017

Here's the results with 12 bhn WW+Sn fired at 850 fps into clay.

Gear

[RobS]

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15918&d=1253321017
Here's the results with 12 bhn WW+Sn fired at 850 fps into clay.

Gear

Cool...................you have to love lead mushrooms ;-)

[fryboy]

nice foto gear ! i actually have the lyman mold ( or rather half lolz me and a buddy just went in halfers on it ) i've managed to get a few cast out of some 10 bhn alloy ( figured that mite help even more ) and like the three u know of our's cast 198 -202 grains ( alloy dependent for true ) i like the fact that other than changing powder it's the same as my hardball load but that brass two holer hp looks extremely sweet !!!

[BoolitBill]

2 Smithereenz:

Actually these two different bullet designs are from two different people. The 200 grain hollow point bullet is from MiHec and the 230 grain bullet I posted up is from BRP.

Here the 230 grain bullet mold makers link:

http://www.brp.castpics.net/

RobS,
Is this 230 grain mold the 453640pb that was hollow pointed or was it another design? I ask because I don't see any 230 grain round nose designs and the 453640 looks like it could be your boolit.----Bill

[RobS]

If you want to go to a 230 grain hollow point here is an option:

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=66230

It is actually a 260 grain solid that can be made into a hollow point. Down further in the tread there is more info and a picture of the hollow point bullet.


RobS,
Is this 230 grain mold the 453640pb that was hollow pointed or was it another design? I ask because I don't see any 230 grain round nose designs and the 453640 looks like it could be your boolit.----Bill

Yes it is the 453640 260 grain bullet that was hollow pointed.

[fredj338]

Lyman Devastator, actually I know of three moulds that all drop at 200-205 grains with diluted WW, including mine. Great boolit, but as some have posted there are custom moulds that are even better.

Gear
I also have that mold, it does indead drop closer to 200gr than 180gr w/ 50/50 ww/lead or 25-1 alloy. I also have the same Lyman bullet design modified by Erik for the 5pt HP in a Cramer style mold (sim to Mihec). It also works great, pretty uniform expansion.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/fredj338/45-215gr.jpg

[2_Smithereenz]

Well guys, you all have done a fine job of convincing me that MP makes some really fine molds. I came back on here today to window shop some more and saw that the Group Buy posting was closing today! I kind of freaked out and made up my mind real dang quick that if I want one of these, I better [bleep] or get off the pot!
So, I just placed my order about 10 min. ago. Luckily the site still showed they were available, so hopefully mine is secure now? I sure hope so, cause I really like what I see with this mold and the boolits that it drops. It's exactly what I've been looking for and haven't found anything else like it on the net.

Sometimes I am the worst Procrastinator in the world, always trying to find something a little bit better, a little bit cheaper, or thinking that I'll just wait and get it later. Well, I hope it didn't just cost me my chance at a darn fine boolit mold?:oops: