25/20 brass

[Deputy Dog]

JUST BOUGHT a savage mod 23-b in 2520is there any diferance in rem 2520 brass and win 2520 WCF brass:confused:

[9.3X62AL]

None that I've noticed. Both are a lot stronger than their 32-20 counterparts.

[Deputy Dog]

thanks 9.3 I saw abox of 2520 wcf noted not for use in marlin or single shot

[Four Fingers of Death]

The 25/20 Marlin Single Shot is quiet a different round I think.

I have a 25/20 92 Winchester anf found brass at the local gun shop. It seems to be always available as do bullets, there must be a lot of them out there, but I have never met anyone else shooting one here.

I have a Model 23 in 32/20 and I am about to get the gunsmith to mount an old burris tapered post and crosshair scope. Every 25/20 I have struck has had a shot out bore and they ain't really fixable.

[Bret4207]

The 25-20 Single shot is a much older round than the 25-20 Winchester. Why the box would mention Marlin I don't know. If it's modern 25-20WCF brass it's all supposed to be about the same. Minor differences in anneal, capacity, etc. are to be expected, even between lots of the same manufacturer.

[Baron von Trollwhack]

I have found differences in anneal, base diameter, case length, and rim thickness. In my Marlin 25-20 early production Classic, a deep chamber and long throat with excessive headspace soon told the story of what brass to use.

It was Remington 32-20 carefully reformed to HS on the shoulder. Starline had a very high reforming failure rate due to hardness, Winchester , nearly so, Remington not at all. If I can get it, that is the standard. Case annealing is required for uniform bullet pull on firing. Neck sizing is most important, and periodic re-annealing for case life. No problems for me with case seperations or pocket expansion, although I use high velocity loadings all the time. BvT

[Bent Ramrod]

Deputy Dog,

Was it an old box? The .25-20 Repeater was originally brought out by Marlin for their Model 1894 rifle. From what I understand, the Model 1892 Winchester wasn't offered in .25-20 Repeater until 1895 or so. They then called it the .25-20 Winchester Model 1892 or the .25-20 Winchester Center Fire and the latter name eventually stuck. (It helps in"branding" to have your own ammunition company when your rival doesn't.) If it is a Winchester box of that vintage, it would be logical that they wouldn't want to associate it with the Marlin rifle or cartridge, and of course, since the .25-20 Single Shot was still being sold, they would not want an angry customer trying to fit a Repeater round into his Stevens single shot and proclaiming Winchester ammunition was "no good."

The woodcut illustration of the .25-20 Winchester Model 1892 cartridge in my repro 1896 Winchester catalog is the identical charge (17 grains black powder, 86 grain bullet) and cost the same $16.00/1000) as the .25-20 Marlin right below it. The Marlin cartridge seems to have a more tapered bottleneck than the Winchester. From the looks of the two, it would appear that the Winchester would be too fat at the shoulder to fit in the Marlin. I have a Marlin Model 27 that fits Winchester shells just fine. Has anyone had trouble feeding an early Marlin Model 1894 with Winchester shells?

[Deputy Dog]

Thanks for the info I could not find any rem brass but a2z had plenty winchester brass and Ive ordered a 100 pcs next project I have is a marlin 92 in 32 rimfire and 32 colt both rounds are almost obsolite thinking to rechambering to 32 smith and wesson any one trird this if so would like to here some input.

[Newtire]

Paco says there was a Marlin/Winchester rivalry that was responsible for Marlin "one-upping" Winchester with a .25-21 and I know of a .25-36 Marlin (vs the .25-35 Winchester).

It is OK to shoot the 25-20 in the Marlin and then set your dies to size short so as to not overwork the case he says.

[beagle]

The WW rim thickness is definitely thicker than the R-P .25-20 but it normally functions through my Marlin M1894./beagle

[Marvin S]

I just measured two new 25-20 cases, one Winchester and one Remington. They are pretty much the same except the Remington is about .015 longer. I have not loaded or fired any of the Winchesters but have had length wise splits with the Remington's in a Marlin 27S but not in a 23B. Neither case is really made to SAMMI specs particularly the head dia.

[Deputy Dog]

marvin I HAD TO BUY A BOX OF FACTORY REM amunition thought I had a corner on some ww brass but everybody is backordered I had to have some to shoot my savage 23 b. I have never in my life paid sixity dollars for a box of boolits but there is always that first time for everything

[Four Fingers of Death]

marvin I HAD TO BUY A BOX OF FACTORY REM amunition thought I had a corner on some ww brass but everybody is backordered I had to have some to shoot my savage 23 b. I have never in my life paid sixity dollars for a box of boolits but there is always that first time for everything

The 32/20 Remingtons are $AU86 for 50 here and the 25/20s $AU108!

I managed to buy 100 before they got up that high, but they were still pricey and I managed to get two 50 packs of Remington Brass for the 25/20. Just scraped in :)

[Marvin S]

The Remingtons where easy to find a little while back but there where no Winchesters to be had. I had some WW on back order from Buffalo arms forever untill I found some at a gun show.