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tek4260
05-16-2010, 08:08 PM
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm35/tk3945/101_1764.jpg

25 yards standing with forearms resting on rails. First three shots made a nice cloverleaf and fourth was after sight adjustment. Gotta love it!!! Especially since this is the first 4 shots fired from it.

skeet1
05-16-2010, 08:17 PM
You didn't. say what it was, I would like to know.

Skeet1

RP
05-16-2010, 08:39 PM
Forearms are alot better than elbows after the first shot corrected that mistake BFR gives alittle push back. Oh btw my first shot with mine was on the money as well very happy with it. 45/70 to let Skeet know.

tek4260
05-16-2010, 09:01 PM
475 Linebaugh. Recoil is not bad, but it does push the limit of my "loose grip" style of shooting

dubber123
05-16-2010, 09:54 PM
475 Linebaugh. Recoil is not bad, but it does push the limit of my "loose grip" style of shooting

I have a load for you to try.... :smile: I'm glad it's off to a good start for you. How is the trigger?

tek4260
05-16-2010, 10:45 PM
Lousy. But I'll take care of that soon.

dubber123
05-17-2010, 06:13 AM
Lousy. But I'll take care of that soon.

I expected so. The trigger on my brothers BFR was well on the "lousy" side also. They are an easy fix though. What boolit did you use in your first loads>

44man
05-17-2010, 08:57 AM
Once you fix the trigger, your vision will be the only limit.
Those of us in the know have fallen in love with the BFR's.
You are just starting, your wonderful gun will do that at 50 yards and farther. Those of us behind the grip are the weak link.
Be aware you should not shoot any revolver with a loose grip and the .475 is the start that will let you know it is wrong. Keep a very firm grip at all times.
I relaxed too much shooting at the first few deer with mine and just took hair off their backs or overshot them. I have to talk to myself and say "hold tight." I no longer miss them.
I was so shook up I was thinking about Magna Port but it was just me. Deer don't bother me and I was just too loose.
The funniest shot was at a buck that came in on the wrong side so I could not use two hands. I poked the gun out with one hand and must have shot over him by a foot at 20 yards! :redneck:

mike in co
05-17-2010, 11:09 AM
so its only a four shot revolver ?
i knew they were big and heavy just did no know so big and heavy only room for 4 ....

dang that is big.....

tek4260
05-17-2010, 11:54 AM
I stopped after I adjusted the sight and walked down to see where I'd hit. She who must be obeyed came out an let me know how obnoxious a 475 is when you are shooting underneath a covered deck on the rear of your house! I got the hint and quit while I was ahead. Seems it was quite a bit louder than the 22 I started shooting with.

bobke
05-17-2010, 04:36 PM
have been working with power pistol and 400gr wfn in my 475 bfr with excellent accuracy and very good chrono data-extremely consistent in the 950-975fps range. ought to burn well in shorter barrel. bfr and 475 continue to impress me with how flexible they are to work with and relatively ease in attaining excellent accuracy. left eye dominance has forced me to try to learn to shoot left handed after 35+ years shooting right handed, hence the reduced loads while climbing the learning curve. it's working. last five shots weren't a cloverleaf, but 1.25", so pleased with early progress.

dubber123
05-17-2010, 06:31 PM
have been working with power pistol and 400gr wfn in my 475 bfr with excellent accuracy and very good chrono data-extremely consistent in the 950-975fps range. ought to burn well in shorter barrel. bfr and 475 continue to impress me with how flexible they are to work with and relatively ease in attaining excellent accuracy. left eye dominance has forced me to try to learn to shoot left handed after 35+ years shooting right handed, hence the reduced loads while climbing the learning curve. it's working. last five shots weren't a cloverleaf, but 1.25", so pleased with early progress.

I am left eye dominant, and have always shot right handed. Whatever works for you is best, but just turning your head slightly to the right puts my left eye in line with the sights. It might be easier than re-learning 35 years worth of shooting for you. Care to share your Power Pistol load? I have about 13 pounds of the stuff I have been slowly burning in .38 Spl..... ;-)

bobke
05-17-2010, 07:24 PM
10.2 gr of power pistol/winchester lp primer/400gr wfn yields 965fps, very low es/sd and excellent accuracy. that charge, in my rcbs measure, is same volume as 13.0 hs6, which also shoots very well at 1002fps, same bullet/primer. i just put a higher blade in my bowen rough country rear sight and was still a bit high, so dropped charge to 9.7 and am dead on with sight almost bottomed out, which is where i prefer to keep it, if able. real impressed with consistency of power pistol, which i'd heard worked very well in 45 colt, but the 475 got put to trial first, as hs6 works really well in 3 45 colts i've got at the moment.

i'm thinking power pistol is near ideal at this velocity range, but as the heat rises in s. texas over the summer, so too may pressures at same charge. barrel was heating up a bit the other day over a 50 round string. may have to look at slower powders in the heat of the summer.

regarding left eye dominance, i'm naturally right handed, but have always shot rifle and shotgun southpaw and stayed with handgun with right. i'm finding about a 12" variance right to left and about 6" of elevation change with sights set the same, and switching between right and left hand. all of my handgun sights are set to extreme right, groups are good either way, but a huge poi change, so have set about trying to teach myself a new trick. not easy or natural feeling...yet.

back to regularly scheduled program, sorry for momentary threadjack.

dubber123
05-23-2010, 07:15 AM
Thanks for the data. I had tried 10.0 grs., but I believe it was with a heavier boolit. I have some LEE 400's I should try it with.

Changeling
05-27-2010, 04:38 PM
There is no doubt, at least in my mind that the BFR's are a class act in some of the calibers they offer. Some people can be happy with that and I have absolutely no problem with that, but what about the rest of us or should I say the majority.

However and this is the truth!!! If they would put together a 45LC on a 5 shot cylinder (Correct cylinder dimensions) with a colt 45 handle and keep the weight down to the Ruger 45 Black Hawk area or lower, I would put my name on the list today to buy one!
For the life of me I can not understand why they haven't done it a long time ago! Instead they show there expertise by building/selling a 45/210 shotgun, yea, every one interested in a good revolver can't wait to get there hands on this! This company needs to get someone in TOP management that understands what people want and stop making asinine decisions. Don't worry about FA's sales model. Try being a little out in front and doing what the people want! A 45/410 shotgun, LOL.

bobke
05-27-2010, 06:40 PM
changeling-
i've put the same proposition to them on a correct dimensioned 45colt, but as they have a 454 set up correctly in their offerings, they felt it was somewhat redundant and not a viable candidate at that time (about 4 months ago). that said, you can get any flavor you prefer from their custom/precision shop, at numbers that would still leave change for a coffee compared to initial outlay from freedom arms. and nothing against the freedom-just comparing the initial entry investment required. in my humble opinion, they'd both shoot damn well, just a better degree of finishing, aesthetics and sight options with freedom.

i did suggest that magnum research ought to offer a greater variety of sight inserts for the replacement front sight assy, as a brass bead, black bead or a black bead with a thin white horizontal line would make a nice, inexpensive option for those of us who have a hard time with the red or green inserts. i'm really impressed with the pure shootability of the bfr and am planning some further investment in sight options myself. other than some grip fitting, it shoots really well right out of the box. and they do now offer a 5" 44 mag fit up just right, if what i've seen so far is any indication.

Whitworth
05-28-2010, 07:53 AM
You beat me to it, Bob. Magnum Research offers a .454, so why would they offer a .45 Colt? Get the .454 and load it the way you want it. Keep in mind that they are a budget (read: affordable) alternative and a damn fine one if you ask me. I have yet to meet a BFR that doesn't shoot exceedingly well.

bobke
05-28-2010, 09:04 AM
bfr's kind of remind me of early savage 110 rifles. i had a 338 that shot absolutely lights out, good as a very accurate 270 bdl i had. but...it looked like it'd been inletted into a treated 4x4. stone ugly, but sure was pretty on paper and in the field.

i can't say the bfr is that aesthetically displeasing, it's kind of got that no nonsense, no b/s, bulldog kind of industrial look, but it's a sure beautiful shooter. and if you drift over to the single action forum (yes, you have permission), there are some really handsome bfr's done over by the likes of alan harton and others. some really fine looking pieces. so fine, i'm going to borrow a few ideas here and there and create one of my own. and it won't be a model 83, but it'll be exactly what i want, done by those who excel at the art and science of it, and i'd bet you a really good beer it'll shoot far beyond my abilities.

so...how bad could that be?

Whitworth
05-28-2010, 10:28 AM
Bob, the only change I would make is a Bisley grip frame, particularly on the bigger calibers. The Bisly just works better for my hands. But, Magnum Research uses a first-rate barrel, and they shoot extremely well. They're definitely not a safe-queen, but a real, no-nonsense field revolver (as you pointed out), plus you can get two and half for the price of one FA! LOL! :bigsmyl2:

StarMetal
05-28-2010, 10:33 AM
Good shooting and I'm glad to see someone else using the same line of targets as me.....printing paper and marker pen!!!!!!!!! I feel better now. [smilie=l::kidding:

doghawg
05-28-2010, 11:18 AM
A magic marker and large washer work well.....If you're a good shot you simply use a smaller washer........

odis
05-28-2010, 04:22 PM
There is no doubt, at least in my mind that the BFR's are a class act in some of the calibers they offer. Some people can be happy with that and I have absolutely no problem with that, but what about the rest of us or should I say the majority.

However and this is the truth!!! If they would put together a 45LC on a 5 shot cylinder (Correct cylinder dimensions) with a colt 45 handle and keep the weight down to the Ruger 45 Black Hawk area or lower, I would put my name on the list today to buy one!
For the life of me I can not understand why they haven't done it a long time ago! Instead they show there expertise by building/selling a 45/210 shotgun, yea, every one interested in a good revolver can't wait to get there hands on this! This company needs to get someone in TOP management that understands what people want and stop making asinine decisions. Don't worry about FA's sales model. Try being a little out in front and doing what the people want! A 45/410 shotgun, LOL.I have a short cylinder BFR in 45 colt that I had made last year from the prec. cen. it is heavier than a blackhawk but that comes in handy when you are shooting slugs that weigh 340 grs. I think that the 454 is reduntant.

44man
05-28-2010, 07:52 PM
Good shooting and I'm glad to see someone else using the same line of targets as me.....printing paper and marker pen!!!!!!!!! I feel better now. [smilie=l::kidding:
I have more luck. I give targets to friends that are still working and they run off hundreds for me on a copy machine. FREE FREE FREE--hooray! :bigsmyl2::bigsmyl2:

JSH
05-29-2010, 08:23 AM
BFR's custom shop will make you what ever you want now?
I know they offer the 38-55/375WW, but the OAL case length is to long for the IHMSA game. I would sure like to give a 375 super mag a try...............................
jeff

TCLouis
05-29-2010, 12:41 PM
Don't ya just love it when something like that happens.

Of course there are NO alibis in your future, gun can perform, now you will have to keep up.

Changeling
05-29-2010, 04:16 PM
I have a short cylinder BFR in 45 colt that I had made last year from the prec. cen. it is heavier than a blackhawk but that comes in handy when you are shooting slugs that weigh 340 grs. I think that the 454 is reduntant.

No doubt the heavier revolver would be better for the over 300gr bullets (or any for that matter), but where does one stop. I see no reason for a 454 actually since a 45 will do practically anything it will do.
However I do see a need for a 45 revolver with correct chamber (total) and barrel dimensions that one can carry as a field/packing/hunting revolver without having your backside fall asleep from the weight!
Ruger evidently feels the same way or the Black hawk wouldn't even be here, but they seem to be rather reluctant in dimensioning it correctly causing one of this websites most asked batch of questions concerning the Ruger 45.

If one needs or wants more power than the 45 LC cartridge the 454 is not the answer, moving up to the 475 would be a no brainer rather than pushing a 45/454 to it's upper limit (and yours).

Mine is just an opinion so please view it as such and try not to burn me at the stake, but if you have to don't buy the stake from Ruger, they have a terrible time with measurements[smilie=l:, LOL.

odis
05-29-2010, 06:39 PM
tek4260 I didn't mean to get off topic on your thread, nice gun and I'm sure you will enjoy owning a BFR I know I sure do.

tek4260
05-29-2010, 09:55 PM
No problem at all odis. If Magnum Research offered a short barrel 45 like the new 44, I would have owned it instead of this 475.

I have wanted a 5 shot 45 and have considered the custom route, but it seems that all the people on Singleactions.com say a 5 shot 45 is a waste.

odis
05-30-2010, 01:40 AM
No problem at all odis. If Magnum Research offered a short barrel 45 like the new 44, I would have owned it instead of this 475.

I have wanted a 5 shot 45 and have considered the custom route, but it seems that all the people on Singleactions.com say a 5 shot 45 is a waste.Well to each his own as far as calibers go I'm sure you'll get bored shooting at ranges less than 75 yds. real soon with that gun.

Whitworth
05-30-2010, 10:47 AM
Well to each his own as far as calibers go I'm sure you'll get bored shooting at ranges less than 75 yds. real soon with that gun.

The only range limitation is the vision of the shooter.

44man
05-30-2010, 11:16 AM
No problem at all odis. If Magnum Research offered a short barrel 45 like the new 44, I would have owned it instead of this 475.

I have wanted a 5 shot 45 and have considered the custom route, but it seems that all the people on Singleactions.com say a 5 shot 45 is a waste.
Why is it a waste when a Colt or Freedom tells you to not have a cartridge under the hammer? Is that not a five shot? Many Freedoms are only four shot guns.
A BFR or a Ruger built for five is REALLY five shots. If you hunt, when have you needed more then one anyway?
If you are on single actions, you are in the wrong place anyway! [smilie=l:

44man
05-30-2010, 11:24 AM
No problem at all odis. If Magnum Research offered a short barrel 45 like the new 44, I would have owned it instead of this 475.

I have wanted a 5 shot 45 and have considered the custom route, but it seems that all the people on Singleactions.com say a 5 shot 45 is a waste.
I think you are wrong here. The .475 is far easier to work with then a .45 and all kinds of boolits will shoot good. You could not have done much better. You have a GREAT gun. Don't look back!

tek4260
05-30-2010, 03:27 PM
What I meant by a 5 shot 45 being a waste, is that why not go with a bigger hammer like a 480. Several members there have 5 shot 45's and they all seem to recommend the 480 when going 5 shot because the gains from a 45 aren't much at all when compared to what you can get with Ruger only 6 shot loads.

Changeling
05-30-2010, 03:34 PM
No problem at all odis. If Magnum Research offered a short barrel 45 like the new 44, I would have owned it instead of this 475.

I have wanted a 5 shot 45 and have considered the custom route, but it seems that all the people on Singleactions.com say a 5 shot 45 is a waste.

It only takes one look at that target and your shooting to say, dude you didn't make a mistake! That 475 has some tremendous capabilities. It's dam obvious you are not intimidated by it, so use it and be happy.
Then if BFR decides to make a 45 we like as a packing/hunting type revolver why it would only be prudent to get that also, I mean good grief we can't have to many can we, LOL.:veryconfu

44man
05-31-2010, 07:44 AM
What I meant by a 5 shot 45 being a waste, is that why not go with a bigger hammer like a 480. Several members there have 5 shot 45's and they all seem to recommend the 480 when going 5 shot because the gains from a 45 aren't much at all when compared to what you can get with Ruger only 6 shot loads.
I see what your saying. :mrgreen:
Strange thing is that when I shoot my Vaquero and SRH, I only load five anyway unless I am hunting. Since I only shoot five shot groups so I don't run into odd numbers of loads left in the box, it still comes out to a five shooter.