The next step!

[BT Sniper]

Now that many of you are mastering the one and two step dies I have offered I figure I will post some more pics of what else can be done with a core seating die, scrap brass and a bit of lead, call it the "next step" in nearly free bullets.

I have posted pics and discusions on this project in the past and many of you may have allready seen or shot some of these bullets but I figured many of you may be interested or know where to find a stock pole of scrap 30-06 family brass.

Really any rifle brass can be used for this project from 243,308 to 30-06 and anything in between. If you could find some of the berdian primmed brass the high power shooters leave behind or anystock pile you would be set.

As for me I use what ever I can find and usually cut it down with the mini chop saw to leave me enough case to form my 44 AMP brass you see in the pics. If any of you should try this some day and leave 1.3" left over it can be made into 44 AMP cases and some one would be interested in it:)

SO the process is nothing more then size down what ever case you can find to 243 or 25-06 for starters. as you can see this will leave the shoulder between .410 and .430 for a perfect size jacket. Size should be fimilar. Cut off the neck after resized. then cut jacket lengths. Usually these weigh about 30 grains. I modified a core seat internial punch to close up the shoulder to for m the base of the bullet and the swage die will finish the rest. What you have left is a very good and accurate bulllet of any calliber you wish. It is real easy to use the core seat die to slightly size down the jacket or bump it up a bit using this technique. You could make jackets for any caliber you want this way. I have don it with .357s , 41s and 44s. will soon do the same with 45s and probably many more.

This technique will leave a bit of exposed lead at the base of the bullet and this will open up a debate on jacket and core sepperation but I have shot severial full power loads threw my AMP and have had another shot some 135 grain 357s at 2300+ fps if I remember correctly with no probs.

So enjoy the pics. Keep an eye open for any scrap brass and let your imagination run when swaging bullets.

Good shooting and Swage On!

BT

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[ANeat]

Nice BT, From what I recall the core seperation was more of a low velocity occurance.

Seems like I recall it was more on those bullets that are half jacketed, bullet gets started down the bore and the friction of the jacet to the bore is greater than the bond between the jacket/core and the core moves out ahead of the jacket.

At higher velocities you may get nothing more than 2 holes in the target, (jacket/core) at lower velocities it may leave the jacket in the barrel.
Also it was more of a revolver deal since youre venting pressure out of the cylinder gap

[Sarg]

Just swage a pennie on the bottom and be done with it.

LOL

Sarge

[ANeat]

Good one Sarg, LOL

[DukeInFlorida]

Damn, and here I am BEGGING people for 30-06 brass.....

And, he's chopping it up left and right........

Gonna go have myself a beer or two. Maybe the pain will subside.

[blaser.306]

Can't give 30/06 brass away here but can't send it there either . Unfortunate that Canadians are seen as sutch a threat to National security ?

[ANeat]

Man BT, you need to figure out something to make out of all those little necks

[Radio Flyer]

Man BT, you need to figure out something to make out of all those little necks

.30 carbine jackets?

I have lots of brass berdan primed brass all over our local range, now I know what to do with it...

[BT Sniper]

I have made some cuite little 90 grain 308s from brass necks. I'll find the pics and post someday.

Figure I'll turn the base of the berdian primmed cases into 457s. So many projects not enough time.

All those cut cases where turned into 44 amp brass or started as berdian so Don't shed to many tears.:drinks:

BT

[DukeInFlorida]

OMG, I get excited when someone gives me 20-30 pcs! Don't know if I could stand it if I got a few hundred. Be still my heart!

You're at the other end of the planet, too far for a road trip.....


Can't give 30/06 brass away here but can't send it there either . Unfortunate that Canadians are seen as sutch a threat to National security ?

[BT Sniper]

An older thread but the same concept as shown above will work to make jackets in a number of different calibers. Of course cutting down scrap berdan brass makes a lot more since then sacrificing good reloadable brass.

A customer inquired with me about making heavy .458 cal bullets. As the discussion continued we got on the topic of using 30-06 or 308 family size brass for a jacket but not using the base but rather the top half for the jacket. So I sacrificed a 8mm berdan primed case, sized it down in a 25-06 FL sizing die, cut the neck off, then cut it at about 1.25". I made a new insert for the core seat die that would close up the shoulder of the brass to form the base of the bullet. Sank about 340 grains of lead in it and VOLIA!

A 400 grain JHP .458 bullet next to a 53 grain 22 cal bullet. Kind of nice to see a big bullet without the extraction groove again :)

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[scarry scarney]

Very nice.

[scaevola]

Interesting, very interesting. Thanks.

[Danth]

Very Nice. Could the necks be used to make 32ACP jackets? I've been thinking of something I could use and these might fit the bill.

[Deliverator]

Now if only I could afford a swaging setup... *rubs pennies together* BREED DAMN YOU BREED!

[just bill]

Every time I see that bullet I get ??????????. I'm still having case top deformation issues. I gotta have that 400 grain for the SOCOM. I have annealed the cases and all the good stuff.
Bill

[BT Sniper]

Are you using a 45 ACP case? the cut top half of a 30-06? bottom half of 30-06? What?

If you wish to make the same 400 grain bullet I have pictured above you need a special internal punch for the core seat die that will close the base of the jacket for you.

BT

[just bill]

Are you using a 45 ACP case? the cut top half of a 30-06? bottom half of 30-06? What?

If you wish to make the same 400 grain bullet I have pictured above you need a special internal punch for the core seat die that will close the base of the jacket for you.

BT


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