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Rex
03-26-2010, 12:44 PM
I ordered 5 sticks of this lube to try out. It is a bit sticky but if it works that don't bother me. Today I loaded 12 rounds of a 165 grain wheel weight bullet in a 357 case over 13.5 grains of 2400 and a dozen of the same bullet in a 38 special case over 12 grains of 2400. All lubed with White Label 50-50. Keep in mind I do NOT own a 38 special so am not afraid to push the 38 case.
At 25 yards off hand accuracy was good. Pushed a rag through the barrel and shined a light in and NO LEAD at all. This would have leaded this revolver with the old home made stuff I had cooked up.
Someday I'll try the Carnuba Red but this workd just fine for what I do.
Rex

NuJudge
03-26-2010, 04:09 PM
The White Label is the old NRA formula, 50% Beeswax and 50% Alox 2138F. With it, the only times I've had trouble with Leading is when my bullet is too small, and I've run bullets up to 2200fps with it.

My daughter complains about smoke from it on indoor ranges.

I bought a heck of a lot of 50/50 when GAR went out of business. I have large batches of Lar's Red, and Purple from another vendor, Bullshop's stuff, and lately Voodoo Red. I find it hard to get motivated to use anything but the 50/50.

mtgrs737
03-26-2010, 04:19 PM
You can't go wrong with Lar's lubes, his prices are quite reasonable. 50/50 is a bit smokey but has always worked fine for me in pistols.

Rex
03-26-2010, 04:53 PM
My "range" is a mile and half north of the house outdoors. If it is smoky, I can't tell, I've also shot a coyote and some odds and ends out of the tractor cab during corn picking, a little smoke don't bother there either. I'm sure happy with the stuff.
Rex

stubshaft
03-26-2010, 06:35 PM
If it ain't broke don't fix it!

If you want something a little less sticky use Lars BAC. It is 50/50 with Carnuba Red added. It is what I use for almost everything.

I say almost because I was bored and cooked up some FWFL.

lar45
03-31-2010, 08:33 PM
Thanks for all the kind words guys.

A minor clarification to the below:

The White Label is the old NRA formula, 50% Beeswax and 50% Alox 2138F. With it, the only times I've had trouble with Leading is when my bullet is too small, and I've run bullets up to 2200fps with it.


Alox 2138F is no longer being made. The current replacement from Luberizol is Alox 350, this is the Alox in our 50-50, BAC and 2500+ lubes. The consistency of Alox 350 is not the same as the old 2138F. A 50% / 50% mix makes a rather soft lube, so I adjusted the ingredients to be slightly stiffer than Javalina Brand 50-50.

Our 2500+ lube is a stiffer version and leaves no lead or fouling in my 30-06 up to around 2550fps with the 190gn Fat 30.

The Alox lubes do tend to be a little smokey. Our BAC lube (Beeswax, Alox Carnauba) is a mix of the 50-50 and Carnauba Red lubes. It's a little stiffer than 50-50, but not as stiff as 2500+ and generally doesn't smoke much if any. Works great in semi-auto handgun rounds and just about everything else.

My top load tested with Carnauba Red in the 30-06 was just over 2700fps with no leading or fouling.
We are more than happy to send out free samples(if you cover the postage), so you can try it your self.