452423

[Ben]

I recently acquired a Ruger RedHawk 454 Casull. I've miked the cylinder throats....4535 " - 454 "

I looked through my molds and found a near new IDEAL 452423 with a deep square lube groove. It drops the bullets at a nice round .455 " I have a .454 " sizer that I'll use.

Care to make any accuracy predictions ( or offer any proven loads in your 45 Long Colt revolvers ) on this bullet with .45 Long Colt brass in the 900 - 1050 fps range in my new Super RedHawk.

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[Char-Gar]

That bullet will shoot as well or better than you can out to 100 yards or so. If you want to stretch it farther, you are better off with a longer bullet.

[Ben]

I doubt I'll be shooting it that far.

Thanks ,

Ben

[Heavy lead]

Just put in front of 10 grains of Unique and forgetaboutit.

[MtGun44]

That is a very early version of the 452423 - truly SQUARE sided lube groove, not seen
very often these days, altho Lyman has gone back to flat bottomed lube grooves on some
of the recent mfg .44 Keith molds and .357 Keith molds that I have seen. Elmer designed
this boolit for the .45ACP in the S&W 1917 revolvers.

+1 on 10 gr Unique.

Bill

[Ben]

This IDEAL mold doesn't have any vent lines. The mold certainly has the lube capacity. If this bullet ever leads, it won't be a lube capacity problem !

The bullets wanted to stick in the mold today requiring frequent taps on the hinge pin to free the bullet. I just hate it when a mold behaves in this manner.

I stopped the casting process, took three of the cooled bullets inside my shop, and spun the 3 bullets with a slow speed cordless drill in the mold cavity with the bullet coated with Fine Clover's Abrasive Compound. See a description of the process below :

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=47669


When the process was over, I gave the blocks a super cleaning, smoked the cavities with a butane lighter and began to cast again.

The procedure didn't change the dia. of the as cast bullet, but the bullets will JUMP OUT of the mold now ! A bullet won't stick in this mold now..............

This one is a real joy to cast with now.

If you have a mold that is " sticking ", I highly recommend this process.

Ben

[MtGun44]

The vent free mold is another sign that this is a very early IDEAL mold. Most of the
no ventline IDEAL molds that I have seen have had integral handles, too.

Good for you on making it drop easily. This is why Lyman changed Elmer's design
to use a semicircular lube groove. They eventually worked out an slight angle on
the sides with a flat bottom that drops well and works great as a projectile, too.

[Buckshot]

...............Don't recall who, but somebody did a Lee group buy (6 cav) of this design and oddly enough I have it and just about 10 days ago sent a full Lee 20# pot of alloy through it. If it wasn't a GB of THAT boolit it's a VERY close cousin :-)

..............Buckshot

[GLL]

Buckshot:

That bullet was run as two different Group Buys through LEE.

Both were designed by 45 2.1.

I ran one myself.

Jerry

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[Bret4207]

Yes, I got in on one of those buys. Sadly, my mould is still pristine and virginal. Just no time...

[Texasflyboy]

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You shoor take purty pickchoors.

:-)