44 wcf vs hogs

[txpete]

I have a invite to go on a hog hunt next month.what I know so far is cover is heavy brush and shots are 50 yards or less.
I am limited on recoil right now due to stent (heart) placement in april.
I have a load worked up for my 92 44-40 using a cast 200 gr lfn and chronies 1292 fps.this load is very accurate but do you think it has enough power for say 100+ lb. hog?
pete

[Four Fingers of Death]

I'd say tha would fill the bill nicely. Sounds like a similar load to black powder, maybe a tad slower. I wouldn't be keen on getting close to it. I remember seeing an old mate getting amongst a mob of goats with a 44/40 94 lever gun. Smokin! Dead goats everywhere. Mick.

[txpete]

thanks mick.
I have worked up faster loads its just that one using 9.0 of unique is very accurate.
I'll have my smith 44 on my hip if needed:-D
pete

[txpete]

I was thinking about this last night and the light came on...

just down load the 375 win. so with my cast 264 lyman sized .377 got it zeroed this morning.should be plenty for any hog I run into :-D
pete
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[Four Fingers of Death]

Hell yeah! Thats minute of rabbit! Very gratifying. I have a 375Big Bore in excellent condition, I gotta get it going. With a group like that no doubt you are using a Marlin. Is that the case? Or are you using a TC? Mick.

[txpete]

sorry mick its a winchester.top eject one of the first batch they made.bought it nib.
taken my fair share of deer with it and now maybe a hog soon:-D .
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[Four Fingers of Death]

I have one which is identical apart from having a Lyman receiver sight rather than the FP. Looks good. I've have many FPs over the years, first Lyman though. Mick.

[C1PNR]

Nice looking rifle, and nicely set up!:-D

I have a Winchester '94 38-55 Chief Crazy Horse commemorative, so I haven't done any drilling/tapping. I guess I'll have to look for a Marlin in 38-55 to set up with a receiver sight.

[Bucks Owin]

I have a invite to go on a hog hunt next month.what I know so far is cover is heavy brush and shots are 50 yards or less.
I am limited on recoil right now due to stent (heart) placement in april.
I have a load worked up for my 92 44-40 using a cast 200 gr lfn and chronies 1292 fps.this load is very accurate but do you think it has enough power for say 100+ lb. hog?
pete

I think I'd be more comfortable with a heavier hardcast bullet, even at lower velocity. If the hogs in TX are like the NORTH KAL variety they can have a pretty good "armor coat" from rubbing pitchy trees and wallowing etc...

Last kill my cousin made was a pretty nice boar, about 250 lbs, and it took four 180 gr '06 rounds from various angles through the vitals before it went down for good and still needed to be "settled" with a .44 mag headshot....

The .44 S&W is always a good idea!

FWIW,

Dennis

[Bigjohn]

As I sit here listening to the wind howl around the house outside, I'd just about give my eye tooth to be someplace else hunting, Hogs, goats, deer, foxes; hell just to be hunting.

Forecast was for a seven metre swell on the ocean today so you know it's going to be rough.

If I was hunting hogs I would perfer something which is going to penetrate well. It has been noted here in Oz that some boars after wallowing in mud are almost bullet proof to front on shots. They pick up extra mud stuck to their chest which hardens and acts like kevlar, then the have the thick hide behind it. Some people I have hunted with reported that their shots from the front DID NOT make it through to the hide. Shots placed behind the front leg worked better on these beasts.

Not having any experience with the American version, I would still recommend a calibre capable of penetrating from the front just in case the beast decides he wants a piece of you.
BTW, nice rifle, until recently I had one just like it rear sight and all. Previous owner removed the recoil pad and put on a piece of checker plate. Boy, was it a bruiser; kick worse than my 45/70 Martini. Sorry I sold it now. Hindsight 20/20.
Best of luck with your hunt, and don't forget the pic's.

John. :drinks:

[Junior1942]

Pete, take it from an old hog hunter: a 264 gr cast bullet @ 1500 fps, and made from wheelweight alloy, will make it through both sides of any armor plated hog that ever lived.

Your "44-40 using a cast 200 gr lfn and chronies 1292" would make it through one side for sure and out the other side for maybe.

Me, I'd use whichever rifle gave me the quickest second shot.

[Newtire]

Pete, take it from an old hog hunter: a 264 gr cast bullet @ 1500 fps, and made from wheelweight alloy, will make it through both sides of any armor plated hog that ever lived.

Your "44-40 using a cast 200 gr lfn and chronies 1292" would make it through one side for sure and out the other side for maybe.

Me, I'd use whichever rifle gave me the quickest second shot.

I'm with Junior on the penetration issue. Hogs are not that tough of a critter to penetrate through with a bullet if you ask me. The bigger the bullet the more shock power. Just watch out that there are not two lined up side by side. A cast 44 will most likely go through both of them. Don't want one wounded. If the range is short, use the bigger caliber. Head shots from the side take em out quickly.

[DLCTEX]

I've killed a heap of hogs with a 22-250, behind the shoulder and head or neck shots. The hogs ranged up to 500 lbs. I avoid shooting big old boars, as I want to eat the meat, can't stay in the house with boar meat cooking, let alone eat it. My sons in Florida catch them with dogs and castrate them so that they are edible later on. It takes about 120 days to improve the taste to an acceptable level after castration.

[Bucks Owin]

I've killed a heap of hogs with a 22-250, behind the shoulder and head or neck shots. The hogs ranged up to 500 lbs. I avoid shooting big old boars, as I want to eat the meat, can't stay in the house with boar meat cooking, let alone eat it. My sons in Florida catch them with dogs and castrate them so that they are edible later on. It takes about 120 days to improve the taste to an acceptable level after castration.

A varmint bullet in the ribcage huh?

No thanks,

Dennis

[txpete]

thanks guys it seems everytime I go scratching my head about something y'all come with the answers.
many thanks
pete

[calaverasslim]

I have been hunting hogs here in S. Tx. for a number of years and love the 44wcf for it. Sounds like you have a great load for it. You mite want to look at the Winchester or Remington 200gr JSP. You M92 should have the .426-.427 bore and these should give you great accuracy. If you can, you can plant one behind the ear and the results are super. I can send you a fist full and starting loads for them if you like. :mrgreen:

[txpete]

I have some rem 200 gr jacketed bullets on the bench.where in south texas are you ?.I am up by ft hood.
pete

[calaverasslim]

I am south and east of San Antonio. I tried the 200gr JHP's from several companies and I keep going back to the JSP's.

[txpete]

thanks we are heading out sat morning.
pete
air cav. retired:-D

[9.3X62AL]

The 44-40 WCF as loaded for the Win 92 and the Marlin 94 is a much different animal than standard velocity factory loads (200 grainers at 1200 FPS). Just the same, those loads aren't something I would like having sent my way, and loads like that harvested muleys and blacktails in the hundreds via my great-grandpa's M-73 in that caliber, and put two black bears on their aspirations during my grandmother's residency at the mountain ranch where my dad was born. It's still 43 caliber, and it's still 200-217 grains, and at 1100-1200 FPS it will make venison just fine if the round gets placed right.

[steveb]

Nice looking Winnie Pete:-D

[calaverasslim]

Pete! How did you make out. You try that 44wcf?

[txpete]

a very long story on the 44-40.got the loads worked up but never made it out to the range to zero.just flat ran out of time:confused: .
sat morning I grabbed my K98K mauser and headed out with mike.we did pretty good.rudy got a 180 lb dan dropped a 80 lb and I shot a 125 lb hog.
mine charged at 40 yards and was a mean one.the shot hit just above the right eye went through the skull down the back broke 4 ribs and exited out the off side.
these a tough to kill.didn't post as I used a norma 196 gr sp condom which did a great job.
dave the ranch owner start up a tree when the hog charged:-D just drew a bead and a dead hog.he told me that that was the first time someone had used a mauser out there to hunt.he liked the results.if I go back I'll be using my 45/70 and some ranch dog 350 gc next time.
pete
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[calaverasslim]

You want to try the 45-70, try 350gr RNFP and 16gr 2400. That's a hog getter at under a hundred yards. You can't shot it, then crush it skull. :) :)