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Marlin Junky
06-24-2006, 06:15 AM
I've been itch'n for something unusual lately and was wondering if anyone has done a .475" levergun on the 336 action using the .45-70 case with no taper. Does this make practical sense? What pitfalls would I be confronting?

MJ

6pt-sika
06-24-2006, 08:25 AM
Gary Reeder makes exactly what you mention;

www.reedercustomguns.com
click other custom guns ,
then click on Buffalo Hunter

I've been thinking about one of these and WWG Marlin 1895 in 50 Alaskan for about 5 years [smilie=1:

Marlin Junky
06-24-2006, 07:12 PM
6pt,

There's a .50AK on Arms America. I'd buy it but I'd rather have one wiith a 20" barrel an full length magazine

http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976739826.htm

MJ

6pt-sika
06-25-2006, 08:11 AM
I have a NIB 1895G just waiting to be shipped to Anchorage . Or possibly to Gary Reeder for his 475GNR .

Marlin Junky
06-26-2006, 06:06 PM
I'm considering a .50AK conversion by Nonneman Custom Rifles out of Grant City, MO based on a 444P. Looks like he'll do the job for 9 big ones. Any input? I'm not planing an African Safari, but I would like to play with a .50 at BP-like velocity and a .50 would be reassuring if I ever need a bear stopper. I wrote him over the weekend to find out if he threads the magazine tube into the receiver.

MJ

6pt-sika
06-26-2006, 07:07 PM
I'm considering a .50AK conversion by Nonneman Custom Rifles out of Grant City, MO based on a 444P. Looks like he'll do the job for 9 big ones. Any input? I'm not planing an African Safari, but I would like to play with a .50 at BP-like velocity and a .50 would be reassuring if I ever need a bear stopper. I wrote him over the weekend to find out if he threads the magazine tube into the receiver.

MJ

I've not had any dealings with him :???:

I really have no need for the 50 Alaskan or the 475 GNR . But I would like to have a 1895G in both calibers .
John Taffin did a article in Guns Magazine a couple years ago on some custom shop Marlin's and one of the rifles he tested was a Reeder in 475GNR . Thats what got me to thinking about it . Also happen to have three molds for the caliber .
Incidently Reeder can supply you with dies and correctly headstamped brass for the 475GNR [smilie=1:

Marlin Junky
08-13-2006, 01:15 AM
Has anyone done a .475 caliber cartridge based on a straightened .450 Marlin yet? The advantage would be not needing to open up the ejection port on the basic 336 action for the big fat 45-70 rim. Therefore, any relatively new 336 that came from the factory as a .30-30, .35 Rem or .444 could have its barrel and bolt replaced to accommodate the ".470 Marlin"... I suppose that's the crux of it.

MJ

charger 1
08-13-2006, 06:38 AM
2 years ago I shot the biggest black bruin thats been seen qaround here with the 45/70 in a 22" with a 350 doin 2150 at 60 yds . when I hit him shoulder to shoulder it blew most of his breast bone out through the front flesh.......So heres my question.........WHY?

Four Fingers of Death
08-13-2006, 08:21 AM
Some may say, "Why not!"

hpdrifter
08-13-2006, 09:48 AM
was it just the other day people were talking about the demise of small calibers. The main focus was folks wanting bigger and better.

If you got an extra $900, then why not get a super 45-70 that will killem twice as dead.

AkMike
08-13-2006, 09:56 AM
why not get a super 45-70 that will killem twice as dead.


Now you're getting the picture! There is no such thing as overkill! Dead is dead!

Marlin Junky
08-13-2006, 12:40 PM
Why? I already gave one reason, but I can give a couple more:

1) Probably easier to make ammo than a .50 Alaskan.
2) I probably don't need the power of a .50 Alaskan in Montana.

MJ

6pt-sika
08-13-2006, 02:59 PM
Why? I already gave one reason, but I can give a couple more:

1) Probably easier to make ammo than a .50 Alaskan.
2) I probably don't need the power of a .50 Alaskan in Montana.

MJ

Since my earlier post,
I've talked with Regan Nonneman about doing the 50AK conversion and also rebarreling a 336 to 7-30 Waters . I like his deal better then WWG and it's cheaper as well . Instead of boring out and rerifling your existing barrel he gets new Douglas barrels .
He also told me he has done one or two 475GNR's as well .
But he also told me he has done quite a few in 475 Linebaugh . That kinda gets me thinking about 460 and 500 S&W MAG levers :drinks:

6pt-sika
08-13-2006, 03:01 PM
Marlin Junky , as far as "NEEDING" a 50AK , I know I will never need one in VA .


BUT I STILL WANT ONE :drinks:

Marlin Junky
08-14-2006, 09:22 AM
6pt,

Yeah Wild West is kinda, well... wild.

I think I'll just pick up a .450 or 45-70 for now and play around with an ol' Lyman 457122 that I've had sitting around for some time now.

Not exactly on topic, but still leverguns:

Does anyone around here own an XLR in 30-30? I'd like to know their bore and groove dimensions. I'm hoping they are more in line with a typical .30 cal than the 55 plus year old 336's I've been shooting. I'd also like an explanation for the fluted bolt!... if anybody has one.

MJ

6pt-sika
09-08-2007, 12:31 AM
6pt,


Does anyone around here own an XLR in 30-30? I'd like to know their bore and groove dimensions. I'm hoping they are more in line with a typical .30 cal than the 55 plus year old 336's I've been shooting. I'd also like an explanation for the fluted bolt!... if anybody has one.

MJ

MJ , for some strange reason I have acquired all the XLR's to date . And they all are fluted . I think it's more for looks then anything else .

As far as slugging the 30-30 I have not bothered , as I have no intentions of shooting cast in it .

However I had communications with a gentleman in PA that shoots lever silhouette and we were talking about shooting the 336CB , 336XLR and some of the older 336A's .

Typically the best accuracy he got came from the 336A of about 1952 vintage , followed by the 336CB and the XLR was the worst of the lot . However that rifle had not had an overabundnace of bullets sent down it pipe to lap it in either .