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Ivantherussian03
02-26-2010, 11:49 PM
Does anybody see a reason this wont work on M38. M38 is not listed as being compatible, but being only semi-knowledible IDK. Being just a novice the only difference between the M44 and M38 is only the bayonet as I see it.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=12461/Product/NO_DRILL__NO_TAP_SCOPE_MOUNT

mike in co
02-27-2010, 12:47 AM
call sk and ask 1-800-578-9862

the 38's are conversions of other rifles, the 44's are made new.

i'd guess there are some minor differences.
i did not take mine apart but did get things a few thou off.

mike in co

milsurp mike
02-27-2010, 01:59 PM
Should work without a problem.I got some of the mounts that replace the rear sight on Mosin Nagants you can have for the cost of postage.Mike

4570guy
02-27-2010, 02:13 PM
That should work with no problems. The M38s were not conversions of long rifles - they were new builds. There was an earlier carbine that was a conversion (can't recall the designation).

Artful
03-07-2010, 09:53 PM
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5726/dsc05652sw2.jpg
Like this

txpete
03-10-2010, 03:04 PM
That should work with no problems. The M38s were not conversions of long rifles - they were new builds. There was an earlier carbine that was a conversion (can't recall the designation).

91/59 & 91/38


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/txpete/mosins/91-59II.jpg

res45
03-10-2010, 05:48 PM
Brother has one of these on his 91/30,rock solid they have both lock in rings and weaver mount. He has the ring mount.

http://www.scopemounts.com/index.html?instapics.html

WineMan
03-10-2010, 11:28 PM
The original carbine was the M1907 an original build rifle apparently very rare to find one today. The Dragoon and Cossack were short rifles and many were converted into 91/30's. The next carbine was the M38 which did not have a bayonet and none fit it. After that the M44 with a bayonet attached. The 91/38 and 91/59 were conversions of earlier M91 and M91/30 rifles respectively. The 91/38 (short rear sight) made in Czechoslovakia and the 91/59 (long rear sight) in the Soviet Union (?), they also do not use any bayonets as the front sight is too wide.

Very handy and inexpensive, poor (mostly) triggers and an awful, but positive, safety.

The muzzle blast and recoil with the 182 grain ammo is something one does not forget quickly.

Wineman

Hang Fire
03-11-2010, 02:48 AM
There are several EER mounts out there, some much better that others.

I got a $25.00 MN 91/59 off a neighbor that had been lightened up, a $15.00 EER mount and a $2.00 garage sale BSA pistol scope.

Could not be happier with performance, very accurate with cast boolits.

http://hstrial-rchambers.homestead.com/early.html#

mike in co
03-11-2010, 10:35 AM
The original carbine was the M1907 an original build rifle apparently very rare to find one today. The Dragoon and Cossack were short rifles and many were converted into 91/30's. The next carbine was the M38 which did not have a bayonet and none fit it. After that the M44 with a bayonet attached. The 91/38 and 91/59 were conversions of earlier M91 and M91/30 rifles respectively. The 91/38 (short rear sight) made in Czechoslovakia and the 91/59 (long rear sight) in the Soviet Union (?), they also do not use any bayonets as the front sight is too wide.

Very handy and inexpensive, poor (mostly) triggers and an awful, but positive, safety.

The muzzle blast and recoil with the 182 grain ammo is something one does not forget quickly.

Wineman


lol...try the bear 200+ gr "hunting" load in a carbine.....you will never forget....

Ivantherussian03
03-12-2010, 12:48 PM
Wow.....you call and someone pick ups the phone....someone on the floor of the shop it sounded like. I was shocked...no phone maze....no endless series of recorded messages.

The answer was yes [smilie=w:

txpete
03-12-2010, 07:40 PM
lol...try the bear 200+ gr "hunting" load in a carbine.....you will never forget....

:drinks: my M38 just loves them :mrgreen:

wizard93
03-16-2010, 12:42 AM
So far the only bullet I can get my M38 to shoot are the 125 grain Remington Core-Lokt bullets. It hates anything heavier than that. Perhaps the barrel's condition may have something to do with it since it has a dark, worn bore and the recessed muzzle cut into it. I recently refinished the stock in an attempt to make it look a little better. It's obviously an arsenal rebuild at one time, and the metal has been reblued somewhere along the line, as evidenced by metal pitting along the stock line around the magazine box and around the barrel in a couple places. I don't consider this piece a collector, so I installed a scope mount and did the bolt handle thing on it.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/tburdette303/Hi-Point/101_5829.jpg

wizard93

Three44s
03-16-2010, 01:00 AM
My M38 likes Winchester 150 gr. Power points (.308") ...... I have not cast for it yet.

In the recent past, I asked if it was safe to load .311 j-words in a Mosin and the response was a resounding YES.

Perhaps if you stay with J-words you might consider something slightly fatter?

Three 44s

JIMinPHX
03-16-2010, 01:21 AM
I've had good luck shooting the Harris design SKS boolit out of a MN with a counter bored muzzle. I've found that the more I shoot/clean it, the better the barrel gets. The cosmoline in that thing was some of the toughest that I have ever seen. Even after a week of brake cleaner, Hoppies, Purple Power, Wipe Out, acetone, ammonia, boiling water & scrubbing, it still didn't all come out. I thought that I had a badly pitted barrel. It turned out that I had a barrel with splotches of Cosmoline still in it, especially along the edges of the lands.