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Blammer
02-23-2010, 08:54 PM
Ok I have this boolit.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/blammer8mm/Cast%20boolits%20fun/DSCN7757.jpg

I'm trying 4064 in it to start.

Anybody else use this boolit? What are you using for powder?

Doc Highwall
02-23-2010, 09:02 PM
Nice looking boolit Blammer, who modified the mould or the pin.

Blammer
02-23-2010, 11:41 PM
It's the NOE 358318, with a HP.

It came with a HP and a Dish HP, this is the dish HP version, this one wt's 243gr lubed and checked.

Shuz
02-24-2010, 12:00 PM
You have a very nice looking boolit there! Good luck with it!


4064 is my "go to" powder for one of my Whelen's. It pushes the 280g 358009 Lyman very nicely and gives a velocity of 2150 fps. Accuracy is 1-1/2 inches at 100 yds which has proven to be MOM(minute of moose) and MOE(minute of elk)! This gun has a Douglass 1:12 twist.

My latest Whelen is a new Remington 700 CDL with a 1:16 twist. I haven't tried the 358009 in it yet, but the RCBS 35-200 does extremely well with Unique. Best group so far is 4 shots in .88 inches at 100 yds, but the 5th shot blew the group to 1.88!

tarbe
02-24-2010, 07:31 PM
Blammer

Those are seriously nice looking boolits! I lusteth.....

What alloy are you using, and what temp are you casting them at, if you don't mind me asking?


Tim

Blammer
02-24-2010, 08:04 PM
Just using straigh WW alloy, nothing special. The temp? whatever it takes to get good fill out. :) I don't have a thermometer and never have used one.

Dean D.
02-24-2010, 09:54 PM
Hey DJ, nice lookin boolits. I use S.R. 4759 with my 358318's. 29.5 gr. @ 1880fps (chrono'd) grouped the best so far @ 1.012" at 100 yards.

FWIW, I load 52gr of 4064 behind a 250gr JSP @ 2272 fps and good groups. Not sure how much you would need modify this load for cast boolits.

Ben
02-24-2010, 11:52 PM
Blammer :

I'm glad I'm not the only person who doesn't use ( and probably never will ) a thermometer.

Ben

Greg in Malad
02-25-2010, 11:15 PM
Blammer,
I have a NOE 358318 that I use in my .350 Rem. So far 65 gr. of AA8700 is my best load. It is producing 1800 fps and 2 moa.

Bret4207
02-26-2010, 08:44 PM
Just using straigh WW alloy, nothing special. The temp? whatever it takes to get good fill out. :) I don't have a thermometer and never have used one.

You just shot some holes in the ships of the guys that think they need such and such a special alloy at 897 BHN dropped from a pot set at exactly 737 degrees.

Good for you!

Beerd
03-01-2010, 03:09 PM
You just shot some holes in the ships of the guys that think they need such and such a special alloy at 897 BHN dropped from a pot set at exactly 737 degrees.

Good for you!

bret,
you forgot the decimal point, the best BHN is 8 point 97 as measured on a Lee Hardness Tester. [smilie=p:
..

Blammer
03-02-2010, 10:42 PM
lol

too funny

warf73
09-30-2013, 07:36 AM
Blammer,

Tell me about this boolit and how well did it work for you.

Thanks Warf

Lefty SRH
09-30-2013, 01:33 PM
Nice boolit, it looks ver similar to the 35 THOR I am using in my 35 remmy.

Blammer
09-30-2013, 02:45 PM
to update this.

I have not gone back to trying this bullet lately because I found that to get my projectiles to really shoot well in my whelen I need to water quench them. Basically harden them just a tad so they will shoot really well.

unfortunately I have not cast any lately, so nothing available to test and shoot.

TXGunNut
09-30-2013, 11:44 PM
That is a nice boolit, if the Thor GB mould doesn't work out I'll have to try it. Without a HP it should be about 250 grs but it's probably more stable with a HP. I'm wondering about HT'ing as well. I think my initial loads were a bit too fast for my alloy. I suspect to realize the potential of a 4064 or 4350 load it's going to take some hard lead shot or heat treating, or both.
So many moulds, so little time. Reckon you'll get a chance to try it anytime soon?

warf73
10-01-2013, 01:51 AM
Thanks Blammer,

I was looking for boolit designs for the 358 winchester on the web and ran across this. Its a great looking boolit, wish Tom could make it in a nice 2 cavity brass.

Warf

stocker
10-01-2013, 06:27 PM
I cast the identical boolit from an NOE mould. 38-40 grains of H4895 does very well with a BHN13 alloy air cooled in my Whelens. Using 4895 is almost a mantra for me with that cartridge. I am quite happy with the results of these at about 1900FPS.

taco650
10-02-2013, 02:59 PM
Talk about resurrection! Thread was 3.5 years old and still gets replies, lol!

JesterGrin_1
10-02-2013, 03:40 PM
Talk about resurrection! Thread was 3.5 years old and still gets replies, lol!

It is called doing a Forum Search. As there is a whole bunch of information to be found here both New and Old. Nothing wrong with bringing and Old Thread back up to get more information or give it.

taco650
10-02-2013, 06:24 PM
It is called doing a Forum Search. As there is a whole bunch of information to be found here both New and Old. Nothing wrong with bringing and Old Thread back up to get more information or give it.

FYI, I'm not complaining because I've often toyed with the idea of converting my 30-06 to 35 Whelen so all info is welcome.

TXGunNut
10-02-2013, 11:30 PM
FYI, I'm not complaining because I've often toyed with the idea of converting my 30-06 to 35 Whelen so all info is welcome.

Lots of 35 Whelen fans here, I'm new to the cartridge so glad to see another thread on the subject. I missed this one in my earlier searches. I'm a fan of the 30-06 also but a few months ago I decided to "un-retire" an old warhorse and my 35 Whelen project was born.

warf73
10-03-2013, 02:47 AM
As for forum search I found this thread via Google Images, I seen a boolit that looked sharp and it so happen to have the CastBoolits logo in the pic. I'm preping for a 358 Winchester build in early 2014, once I go over the site I start searching google and everytime I find something different.

Blammer
10-04-2013, 04:01 PM
just curious what google search did you do to get the pic to show up?

JesterGrin_1
10-04-2013, 04:17 PM
You can Google picture of Lyman 358318 lol. https://www.google.com/search?q=picture+of+Lyman+358318&client=firefox-a&hs=j0X&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=9SFPUsqyNOGCyAG53YH4DA&ved=0CCwQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=605&dpr=1

warf73
10-05-2013, 12:49 AM
just curious what google search did you do to get the pic to show up?

Do a normal google search once you hit enter at the top there are chooices "Web" "Image" "Maps" "Shopping" "More " just click Image and it brings up all pics related to the search.

Blammer
10-05-2013, 06:12 PM
thanks, very interesting.