Butcher45
02-21-2010, 03:20 PM
Sent my tuned 2tube Sam Yang 909 .454 in to have some work done on the exhaust valve, and the fill check valve. I have to wonder just how long that exhaust valve had been distorted, because this 909 is now shooting harder than it ever has since I have had it. MUCH harder. Here are some numbers.
Note how a small change in the psi fill here and there can really dial-in a shot string to a tight fps variance (similar to adjusting a powder charge in powder-burners). Only enough room to get 6 ft back from the chrony today, instead of my usual 10 ft. I will need to confirm these numbers with the chrony set 10 feet from the muzzle, but I feel they are accurate due to the consistency, and the way the rifle was shooting (hard).
Hornady .457RoundBall
3000psi
886.3=249fpe
874.3=242fpe
859.3=239fpe
Hornady .457RoundBall
3100psi
873.2=242fpe
865.3=237fpe
843.9=226fpe
Hornady .457RoundBall
3200psi
870.4=240fpe
876.6=244fpe
858.1=233fpe
BigLube ROA's 210grains approx BHN9 alloy
3000
767.4=274fpe
773.1=278fpe
764.7=272fpe
744.9=258fpe
BigLube ROA's 210grains approx BHN9 alloy
3100psi
743.3=257fpe
771.2=277fpe
769.5=276fpe
758.7=268fpe
BigLube ROA's 210grains approx BHN9 alloy
3150psi
748.6=261fpe
773.6=279fpe
775.3=280fpe
767.8=274fpe
BigLube ROA's 210grains approx BHN9 alloy
3200psi
750.6=262fpe
780.9=284fpe***
780.8=284fpe***
758.4=268fpe
Sure Fire Raptors (?215-220grains?)
3000psi
735
742.6
743.1
Lee ROA's 220grain (from BHD)
3000psi
744.6=270fpe
764.8=285fpe
751.6=276fpe
730
Big Lube PRS 255grain .452 (to small)
3000psi
669.8
686.4=266fpe
699.7=277fpe
689.8=269fpe
245grain REAL's from BHD, labeled ".457 un-sized"
3000psi
706.1=270
712.8=276
715.7=278
695.9=263 (this REAL was from a different batch)
Lyman Maxi Hunters 255grains (only had two)
3200psi
673.3=256fpe
696.7=274fpe
693.4=272fpe (this third shot was a .452 PRS 255grain)
Comments: I'm always trying to dial my rifle in to shoot four shots per fill with no more than 20fps maximum variance in fps (preferably 15 or less).
As far as the good-old, in-efficient roundball goes I like the 3200psi string the best but don't think it is worth the extra 200psi in the fill. So I'll go with the 3000psi fill until I can see what 3050psi looks like. Should work OK even though the 3000psi string falls well outside my maximum 20fps variance goal. Roundball has always shown the highest fps variance in a string out of everything I shoot out of this rifle. EPP/UG's are much more consistent.
The BigLube ROA 210grainer looks like it has a lot of potential...though I have no idea if it is an accurate slug or not. Wasn't having much luck shooting it a couple weeks ago in a friends gun. With a little more experimentation with the fill pressure, I think I can get that fourth shot in there.
The 220grain Lee ROA design has once again proven itself to be the winner in the fpe department (285fpe!) with only one fill pressure being tested. The Lee ROA is commonly known for both it's power, and accuracy......a really good boolit for the SamYangs.
I think the 245grain REAL's have as high a probablity as any boolit out there to produce very tight maximum fps variances in SamYang barrels, for the most shots possible. Only had enough (almost) for one shot string, and it stayed within my maximum 20fps variance for a four shot string. Excellent.
Oh yeah. Can't forget to mention the all-time fps king of the hill. The "X-Ring" rubber pellets! I'd venture to guess they weigh about 16grains in .45 They punch a very neat hole in cardboard, and seem to be fairly accurate at about 20 feet.
These can be re-used, and are just the ticket for very close range vermin duty around the house should you have neighbors very close by (so long as they don't mind the NOISE!).
It will be fun trying to get a really tight string out of these. The first three numbers look very promising in that regard. I'll try to take a sqwerl with one sometime just for kicks (headshot). I wouldn't ever want to get hit with one of these, rubber or not!
X-Ring rubber pellets (guessing 15grains for now.... the 44 version is said to be about 13grains)
3000psi
1433fps=68fpe
1398fps=65fpe
1399fps=65fpe
1331fps=59fpe
Note how a small change in the psi fill here and there can really dial-in a shot string to a tight fps variance (similar to adjusting a powder charge in powder-burners). Only enough room to get 6 ft back from the chrony today, instead of my usual 10 ft. I will need to confirm these numbers with the chrony set 10 feet from the muzzle, but I feel they are accurate due to the consistency, and the way the rifle was shooting (hard).
Hornady .457RoundBall
3000psi
886.3=249fpe
874.3=242fpe
859.3=239fpe
Hornady .457RoundBall
3100psi
873.2=242fpe
865.3=237fpe
843.9=226fpe
Hornady .457RoundBall
3200psi
870.4=240fpe
876.6=244fpe
858.1=233fpe
BigLube ROA's 210grains approx BHN9 alloy
3000
767.4=274fpe
773.1=278fpe
764.7=272fpe
744.9=258fpe
BigLube ROA's 210grains approx BHN9 alloy
3100psi
743.3=257fpe
771.2=277fpe
769.5=276fpe
758.7=268fpe
BigLube ROA's 210grains approx BHN9 alloy
3150psi
748.6=261fpe
773.6=279fpe
775.3=280fpe
767.8=274fpe
BigLube ROA's 210grains approx BHN9 alloy
3200psi
750.6=262fpe
780.9=284fpe***
780.8=284fpe***
758.4=268fpe
Sure Fire Raptors (?215-220grains?)
3000psi
735
742.6
743.1
Lee ROA's 220grain (from BHD)
3000psi
744.6=270fpe
764.8=285fpe
751.6=276fpe
730
Big Lube PRS 255grain .452 (to small)
3000psi
669.8
686.4=266fpe
699.7=277fpe
689.8=269fpe
245grain REAL's from BHD, labeled ".457 un-sized"
3000psi
706.1=270
712.8=276
715.7=278
695.9=263 (this REAL was from a different batch)
Lyman Maxi Hunters 255grains (only had two)
3200psi
673.3=256fpe
696.7=274fpe
693.4=272fpe (this third shot was a .452 PRS 255grain)
Comments: I'm always trying to dial my rifle in to shoot four shots per fill with no more than 20fps maximum variance in fps (preferably 15 or less).
As far as the good-old, in-efficient roundball goes I like the 3200psi string the best but don't think it is worth the extra 200psi in the fill. So I'll go with the 3000psi fill until I can see what 3050psi looks like. Should work OK even though the 3000psi string falls well outside my maximum 20fps variance goal. Roundball has always shown the highest fps variance in a string out of everything I shoot out of this rifle. EPP/UG's are much more consistent.
The BigLube ROA 210grainer looks like it has a lot of potential...though I have no idea if it is an accurate slug or not. Wasn't having much luck shooting it a couple weeks ago in a friends gun. With a little more experimentation with the fill pressure, I think I can get that fourth shot in there.
The 220grain Lee ROA design has once again proven itself to be the winner in the fpe department (285fpe!) with only one fill pressure being tested. The Lee ROA is commonly known for both it's power, and accuracy......a really good boolit for the SamYangs.
I think the 245grain REAL's have as high a probablity as any boolit out there to produce very tight maximum fps variances in SamYang barrels, for the most shots possible. Only had enough (almost) for one shot string, and it stayed within my maximum 20fps variance for a four shot string. Excellent.
Oh yeah. Can't forget to mention the all-time fps king of the hill. The "X-Ring" rubber pellets! I'd venture to guess they weigh about 16grains in .45 They punch a very neat hole in cardboard, and seem to be fairly accurate at about 20 feet.
These can be re-used, and are just the ticket for very close range vermin duty around the house should you have neighbors very close by (so long as they don't mind the NOISE!).
It will be fun trying to get a really tight string out of these. The first three numbers look very promising in that regard. I'll try to take a sqwerl with one sometime just for kicks (headshot). I wouldn't ever want to get hit with one of these, rubber or not!
X-Ring rubber pellets (guessing 15grains for now.... the 44 version is said to be about 13grains)
3000psi
1433fps=68fpe
1398fps=65fpe
1399fps=65fpe
1331fps=59fpe