yugo 98 mowser to 357 max

[jbunny]

this is what i've accomplished so far. made the chambering reamer sunday morn
and chambered the barrel and contoured it. i made a titanium fireing pin yhis mornning. i moded the bolt last week, shrunk the face to 357 max size and
made a scope bolt handle out of drill rod. made a aluminum tactical knob
and anodized it to stop your hand from turning black. i still have to make a throater
reamer and crown the barrel. i have a pepper boyd stock comeing. yeeee hhaaaa.
jb

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q273/MOUICH/98mauserproject.jpg

[pjh421]

OK I'm jealous. What are you going to use it for? I could have had a blast with something like this when I was a kid spending my summers on the farm. Way to go!

Paul

[doubs43]

You, Sir, are obviously a talented man in your machine shop and that's a fascinating project. I suspect you'll be making it a carbine with maybe a 16-18 inch barrel? That would be a wonderful field gun for varmints and even deer at a reasonable distance. I hope you'll post pictures as you go so we can see the progress.

[jbunny]

Paul, d43, thanks for the kind words. actualy i made the barrel 23 inches.
i can always cut it down. mainly cheap target shooting and plinking. i like
the carbide dies and brass lasts a lot longer in these straght wall cases. some of my 44
mag cases heve gone 40 reloads and still looks good. u want to hear something
realy funny, i'm not a machinest, welder or gunsmith. i'm have a ball pretending.
i wish i could of retired 40 years ago.

[bruce drake]

Who made the Barrel Blank and in what twist?

I've been thinking of making a 358 Winchester on a Mauser when I've get some "free time" upon retirement soon.

Bruce

[swheeler]

JB; very nice work. The reciever looks as if one of the scope mount holes is drilled right through locking lug in action-oops?

[jbunny]

yes the back scope base hole is 1/4 hole touching the edge of the lug but not
drilled through the lug. if i ever do another i'll know better. i'm from the school
of hard knocks u know. the barrel blank was from Ron Smith of
RK enterprise.
the twist is 1-16. i went by the lyman loading manual for 357 mag as the win 94
was 1-16. it should be fine with the 5000 or so of the lee TL358-158-2r
jb

[jbunny]

all finnished except the trigger wich is in the mail from boyds. jb
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q273/MOUICH/357max3.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q273/MOUICH/357max2.jpg
i have losts of knuckle room on this bolt handle.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q273/MOUICH/357max.jpg

[Blammer]

That is great!

How does it feed from the magazine well? Was that difficult to get to work right?

Awesome project! I've envious!

[jbunny]

i gave up quite quite a few rifles ago to make these 44 and 357 feed
in these mowser actions. i just build an aluminum feed ramp and load
single shot. this one u tip the muzzle down or flip it in with the back of your finger.
the extractor will push the base of the bullet sideways if u use the bolt.
i would like to have built it on a win high wall single shot, however i can't
afford one of those. i would like to find a martini action for the barells i have comeing.
they are classed as antiques on both sides of the border so no problem
clearing customs and no paperwork needed. hint, hint, anyone have one for sale.
jb

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q273/MOUICH/maxfeedramp.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q273/MOUICH/maxfeedramp3.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q273/MOUICH/maxfeedramp2.jpg

[dragonrider]

Thats going to be a fun shooter for sure.

[357maximum]

Absolutely stellar...I like the look, the work, and you could not have picked a better caliber.:bigsmyl2: Thanks for sharing[smilie=s:

[swheeler]

Very nice, that should be fun!

[45r]

looks great,i'd like to rechamber my T/C 357 mag barrel.i like the look of Bellm's 357 max reamer service but seems too expensive to me.I should have got a custom barrel.I can't get better than one inch groups at 50 yards with the mag barrel.

[Four Fingers of Death]

If you had of made it a 358Win or a Whelan it probably would have fed properly. Why don't you have a look at the current Tikka mags? They are straight line, made from a durable synthetic/polymer/whatever.

[leadman]

What about using an 1891 Arg. Mauser action? They have a mag that stacks the cartridges one on top of the other. Might have to load it like a 303 Enfield staggering the rims, but should work .

Might try some 357 mag cases in one of mine later to see if it will work.

[Four Fingers of Death]

The 357Max is a wise choice in a single shot, but the 358Win/35Rem/35Whelan would be a lot easier to live with in a bolt gun. Seems like you're going out of your way to make problems for yourself.

You have done a good job of it though. If it was me I would be trying to adapt a straight stacker mag.

What guys here do with No4s converted to 308/762 is to use the original mag spring and make up a single stack mag inside the original magazine and a flat follower. Usually ends up holding 5 rounds. If you did that with a Mauser action, you would probably end up with a two (and hopefully a three shot) mag. Which would be a worthy upgrade to your rifle.

[badgeredd]

Nice job!

It amazes me personally that anyone would make negative comments on your gun/cartridge choice for yourself. After all I do believe it is YOUR gun to use and do with as you please. Knowing that a bolt action of the Mauser design is generally considered to be the strongest and most accurate action, I personally think it is a great project. Because one used to be able to get surplus Mauser actions very cheaply, I decided to build three different guns that are out of the norm.

http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee338/badgeredd/PICT0430-1-1.jpg

The one on top is a 375 Winchester repeater on a 98 action.

The one in the middle is a 22 SuperJet on a shortened 93 action and the bottom one is a 218 Mashburn Bee also on a shortened action.

Below is a picture of a 93 currently under construction compared to one of the shortened actions. I took about an inch out of the actions. Both shortened actions are single shots and a ball to shoot.

http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee338/badgeredd/PICT0433-1.jpg

I like your adjustable cheek insert. Did you use a kit package to get that installed?

AGAIN, nice piece.

Edd

[jbunny]

thanks for the kind words baggered. those are nice rifles u got there, drool.
i have never had a factory stock fit me yet. the cheek peice ia always to low for a
proper cheek weld. heres a pic as to how i make one style of ajustable ckeek.
i just finnished cutting the ckeek out and just moved it back a bit.
jb

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q273/MOUICH/mauserstock.jpg

[badgeredd]

jbunny, thank you, twice. I've been thinking about making an adjustable cheek piece for another project I have in mind. I want to have an adjustment to go from open sights to a scope. As we know, one can't get a proper weld if a gun is built correctly for one when using the other. Anyway, it is just a thought at this moment, but I'll continue to mull it over. Thanks for the picture...it helps.

Edd

[jbunny]

Ed for a quick adjust make i would sugest makeing ur self a drill jig .
this is when i did my win 52 target 22. i hope these pics help u
jb

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q273/MOUICH/cheekpiecejig.jpg

i used the same jig to do my ruger 10-22. i knurl the aluminum buttons and epoxy them in and use stainles set screws that seat against flat spots on the guide rods.

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q273/MOUICH/my10-222.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q273/MOUICH/P4050052.jpg

[badgeredd]

jb,

Thanks for the pics. They help tremendously. I like it. Nice clean looking installation. I'll be making a drill jig in the near future, I do believe.

Edd

[jbunny]

just a note Edd, that drill jig was'nt finnished in that pic. i wellded some
5/16 guide bushings on top as well. can take pic if need to. here is the finnished jig.

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q273/MOUICH/targetstock4.jpg

[badgeredd]

just a note Edd, that drill jig was'nt finnished in that pic. i wellded some
5/16 guide bushings on top as well. can take pic if need to. here is the finnished jig.

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q273/MOUICH/targetstock4.jpg

Got it...I figured you'd use drill bushings of some type. I am thinking I may have a few in one of my junk (I mean useful stuff that I may use someday) boxes.:bigsmyl2: A mental picture is in place so I think I can get er done now. Thanks again.

Edd

[Four Fingers of Death]

Nice job!

It amazes me personally that anyone would make negative comments on your gun/cartridge choiceEdd

I'm sorry f it appeared that way, but I wasn't trying to be critical, just expressing an observation. What I was trying to say I suppose was that if you wanted a 35 in that power range, there were other choices that would be an easier way to go (and would feed from a standard (ish) magazine.

The level of workmanship of these guns is a credit to you both.

[badgeredd]

I'm sorry f it appeared that way, but I wasn't trying to be critical, just expressing an observation. What I was trying to say I suppose was that if you wanted a 35 in that power range, there were other choices that would be an easier way to go (and would feed from a standard (ish) magazine.

The level of workmanship of these guns is a credit to you both.

Four Fingers,

I likely jumped a bit heavily myself. I now see your intent and can accept that.
Thank you for your kind words.

Edd

[jbunny]

Ed or anybody else, i can post a short tutoriol on how i do plastic stock cheekpeice.
non adjustable like the H&R

[Artful]

Neat project guys - Jbunny have you considered making a magazine adaptor and using a 357 desert eagle mag to feed your gun?

[jbunny]

i have not tried the 357 magazine but i did buy a 44 mag magazine for a desert
eagle. u can,t load cast bullets in them as the factory amo will just fit. u have to stick
to the book OAL. same for the ruger rotary mags. i like the single shot rifles
whatever the action may be. in my case, cheap is the key word, followed by
pistol straight walled cases, carbide dies.
happy shooting everyone
jb

[Artful]

I only asked as I have a weakness for converting carbines myself.
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45 ACP with 1911 mags - click to enlarge
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7.62x39 conversion with WASR mags - click to enlarge
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I'm now thinking about
44 mag on Mosin Conversion with Desert Eagle mags.

[jbunny]

very nice Artful. i,m leaning towards the antique single shots as no papers
needed on them. as i see it the UN is every gun owners enemy. they would like
to disarm all citizens of the world in every country. we have to register all firearms
in this country except flintlocks and antique single shot rifles. sorry about the side track. yes the 44 mag is in my opinion is a good allround cartridge for poor folk.
the components are way less than large rifle cartridges and it don,t pound the
liveing hell out of u and has plenty of power for large game. .02 cents pls.:smile:
jb

[Four Fingers of Death]

Actually the Enfield with a 38Super conversion using 1911 mags would be a nice small and medium game hunter. Pressures might be a bit high. Now a 38 Super necked to 311? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

[Artful]

Four fingers -
Find a Spanish "destroyer" 9mm Largo carbine (third series) with the locking lugs at the rear it will take 1911 38 super mags, you have to put a shim in the back to take up the slack and put a notch in the rear for the mag catch on the destroyer to work. Barrel replacement just about like any other mauser.
http://picturearchive.auctionarms.com/4894134305/9444367/largo%20002.jpg_thumbnail1.jpg

One gentleman in Montana made his a swap barrel with 9mm luger and 7.62x25 seems like a good idea to me.

[Four Fingers of Death]

Four fingers -
Find a Spanish "destroyer" 9mm Largo carbine (third series) with the locking lugs at the rear it will take 1911 38 super mags, you have to put a shim in the back to take up the slack and put a notch in the rear for the mag catch on the destroyer to work. Barrel replacement just about like any other mauser.
http://picturearchive.auctionarms.com/4894134305/9444367/largo%20002.jpg_thumbnail1.jpg

One gentleman in Montana made his a swap barrel with 9mm luger and 7.62x25 seems like a good idea to me.

Now thats a cheap plinker and small game gun! Doesn't look half bad either.

[jbunny]

here,s mine and it,s for sale.
jb

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q273/MOUICH/spanishdestroyer.jpg

[Artful]

jbunny you got some better picks and spec's of that scope mount? [smilie=1:

[Four Fingers of Death]

I like those little rifles, I gotta get one of them

[jbunny]

jbunny you got some better picks and spec's of that scope mount? [smilie=1:
weaver #45 front and rear.


http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q273/MOUICH/destroyerscopebases.jpg

[Artful]

Thanks - saved me some time there.