Brand new marlin 45/40

[corvette8n]

I picked up my brand new Marlin 1895 45/70 with 22" barrel and Ballard rifleing,
at almost $30 bucks a pop for Rem 45/70 at Wally World looks like re-loading
this puppy is in the cards.
I have 100lbs or so of ww and 20lbs or so of linotype.
What mold do you guys recommend?

[6pt-sika]

I'm kinda , well lets be truthful "very" partial to Lyman #457122 . It's a 330 grain HP mold.

[Char-Gar]

For general use in the Marlin RCBS 405 GC can't be beaten.

[SharpsShooter]

I like the Lyman 457193. It is a 420gr plain base FN. The 457122 is hard to beat too if you want the hollow point. Cast of straight wheel weights and air cooled, they will work just fine at velocities that don't separate you from your eyeballs.

Over the weekend, I cast a few 457124's. It is a 385gr plain base round nose boolit that actually weighs 399gr with my alloy mix. I am fortunate that this mould drops them out at .4595, so a quick trip through the .460 sizer lubes them right up with Bullshop's #2 lube. I'm working up a ground squirrel load with this lightweight boolit and unique. It ought to be a powder puff load regarding recoil.

Any of the above are good choices and you might check the group buys going on right now. Catshooter has a 360gr 45-70 boolit mould group buy that looks very promising. Also, Bullshop offers a wide vareity of cast boolits for the 45-70. It is not a bad idea to try a given design before purchasing a mould.

SS

[bobthenailer]

in my cowboy marlin 45/70 a saeco 350 gr gc with 21 gr of 5744 for 1 1/2 at 100 yards

[dragonrider]

I use a 457121, 475 grn, a 457191, 292 grn, and a 457193 405 grn. All are plain based. I don't use the 121 anymore, it hurts. And in the future I will be cutting back on the others. Still my favorite caliber, just can't take the pain like I used to.

[Maineboy]

I picked up my brand new Marlin 1895 45/70 with 22" barrel and Ballard rifleing,
at almost $30 bucks a pop for Rem 45/70 at Wally World looks like re-loading
this puppy is in the cards.
I have 100lbs or so of ww and 20lbs or so of linotype.
What mold do you guys recommend?

I bought my 1895 5-6 years ago and that's when I got back into casting after a 15 year absence. What I started out with was the Lee 405 grain flat point boolit and it shoots very well with everything from plinking loads to moose thumpers. My barrel slugs a bit over .457 and the Lee drops them at .459 cast of wheel weights. I tumble lube these booilts, 2 coats for the heavy loads, and don't size them. I have 6 moulds for this gun, with one of Ranch dog's 460-350-FP-GCs on the way. I can say that the Lee is not the absolute best shooting boolit in this gun, but there ain't much difference between it and any of the others. You'll like this gun, especially with mild loads. Heavy loads are not much fun to shoot in quantity! It's my primary hunting rifle and I've shot 2 deer with it, both using the Lee 405 boolit.

[Bucks Owin]

The 405 gr PB FP Lee is my only .45/70 mould at present. I haven't been able to do much shooting with it yet but I'm glad to hear Maineboy's good report on that boolit...

FWIW,

Dennis

The boolit on the right is what one looks like...

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a356/BucksOwin/IMAGE051.jpg

[BABore]

Be aware that Marlins are notorious for barrel constrictions under the dovetails, stamped lettering, and barrel threads. It would be highly advisable to slug your bore with one full pass egg sinker, and one just flush with the muzzle then driven back out. Compare the diameters. If the full pass slug is smaller, you have some constrictions. Use a good micrometer. You will play hell getting a cast bullet to shoot well if it gets sized down by bore constrictions. You can either shoot 500-1000 jacketed through it or fire lap it to correct the problem. Beartooth Bullets sells a good kit for this. My 450 Marlin will shoot sub inch now that it's lapped in.

The Lyman 457643 is a good PB mold for starters and usually very accurate. Your bore slug will tell you what the gun needs. Most 458 cal. Marlins seem to prefer 0.460+ diameter bullets. This diameter may be a problem with the more common off-the-shelf molds. You may also get lucky too.

[Ranch Dog]

There is a group buy going on now for the mold that casts this boolit. You can read about it here...

2 and 6 Cavity TLC460-425-RF GROUP BUY STARTS NOW (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=6991)

[KCSO]

You kind of need to match yor bullet to your game. A 405 or up is good for bear and buffalo, but not the best for deer size game. For deer size game I am partial to the Lyman 330 Gould Express slug. Bullet size will also be somewhat limited by seating depth as the longer hevier bullets will have to be deep seated to function through the magazine.

[PatMarlin]

I think my stainless guide gun is my favorite rifle.

Got my first deer with the LEE 457-340-F, and 4895 mil surp.

Shoots nearly one ragged hole at 50yds. Defnitely a very good 340gr boolit at any price for the marlin ballard 45-70.

[6pt-sika]

Be aware that Marlins are notorious for barrel constrictions under the dovetails, stamped lettering, and barrel threads. .


Hmmm , this is intresting. I am the owner of more then two Marlin 45-70's of recent maufacture and I've not run into this problem . Or with my 444's or any of the other ones that I shoot cast in . Not saying you are incorrect but this is the first I ever heard this .

[6pt-sika]

Typically I size in dies that take little or nothing from the bullet . My die for 45-70's and 450's is .459 ". I have intentions of having Lee make me a .460" in one of their sizers .[smilie=1:

[PatMarlin]

Hmmm , this is intresting. I am the owner of more then two Marlin 45-70's of recent maufacture and I've not run into this problem . Or with my 444's or any of the other ones that I shoot cast in . Not saying you are incorrect but this is the first I ever heard this .

Certainly not mine either. Marlin has really upped their quality the past few years, getting back to the old type of good stuff IMO. But there's always some turkeys.. :Fire:

And I should know cause I own the company don'tchaknow.. :mrgreen:

[6pt-sika]

Certainly not mine either. Marlin has really upped their quality the past few years, getting back to the old type of good stuff IMO. But there's always some turkeys.. :Fire:

And I should know cause I own the company don'tchaknow.. :mrgreen:

Pat I have a fairly broad selection of Marlins my oldest was made in 1898 and my newest are the XLR's . I also have quite a few from the eighties (356 , 375 , 25-20 etc ) and I've not had a problem with any . SO FAR [smilie=1:
Makes me think after making this statement , the bottom on accuracy will fall out from under the whole bunch :roll:

[6pt-sika]

And I should know cause I own the company don'tchaknow.. :mrgreen:

Well good you are just the man who's ear I want to bend :drinks:

Make a run of 1895CB's in 40-65 and 38-56.
Make a run of 336CB's in 32-40 and 32 Speciel.
And 1894CB's in 25-20 , 32-20 and 38-40.

Bring the darn 1895RL out "finally" in 475 Linebaugh.

Make a run of 1895G's in 50 Alaskan.

Make an "old style" 336A in 7-30 Waters .

Make the 336XLR in 307 and 356 WIN .

I'd also like to see a run of 336D's in 30-30 and 32 Speciel.

A 39A in 17 MACH II .

I doubt if you will become a billionaire from sales on any of these , but some limited runs , I believe would sell fairly well .

I can gaurentee you that I WILL buy one of each and possibly two of the 7-30 Waters .

I'm not a rich man by any means , but I have assembled a no longer small collection of your products . And it was all done in the last six years .

Truly the only thing I purchase any longer are Marlin's , Remington's and S&W's .

[6pt-sika]

Pat , since Marlin used to own Ideal . Do you have any pull with Lyman ?
Maybe to getting them to bring out some of the old moulds in limited runs ?

[hpdrifter]

Well good you are just the man who's ear I want to bend :drinks:

Make a run of 1895CB's in 40-65 and 38-56.
Make a run of 336CB's in 32-40 and 32 Speciel.
And 1894CB's in 25-20 , 32-20 and 38-40.

Bring the darn 1895RL out "finally" in 475 Linebaugh.

Make a run of 1895G's in 50 Alaskan.

Make an "old style" 336A in 7-30 Waters .

Make the 336XLR in 307 and 356 WIN .

I'd also like to see a run of 336D's in 30-30 and 32 Speciel.

A 39A in 17 MACH II .

I doubt if you will become a billionaire from sales on any of these , but some limited runs , I believe would sell fairly well .

I can gaurentee you that I WILL buy one of each and possibly two of the 7-30 Waters .

I'm not a rich man by any means , but I have assembled a no longer small collection of your products . And it was all done in the last six years .

Truly the only thing I purchase any longer are Marlin's , Remington's and S&W's .

I'd add the 38-55!!!! You rebarrel for it, produce it.

[6pt-sika]

I'd add the 38-55!!!! You rebarrel for it, produce it.


Already have two (336CB and 1893) of those :mrgreen:

But you are correct :drinks:

You know a 336CB in 25-36 Marlin would also be quite nice. I already have one in an 1893 , but I'd buy another in the 336CB . But the likelyhood of that is slimmer then none and never .:(

[PatMarlin]

Not to worry... I'm already a billionaire.

Will that be in stainless or blue?... :mrgreen:

[6pt-sika]

Corvette , sorry I kinda turned your thread .[smilie=1:

Back to your 45-70 . If you use any of the moulds listed and a sizer of .459 or .460 you should be alright.
When I first started casting I had a Marlin 1895CB and I used the Lee plain base 340 grain and 405 grain moulds. And I tumble lubed , and fired them as cast .
These bullets shot very well I must say .

If you want to try this on a budget you can get the Lee 10 pound bottom pour pot for about $45 and the Lee moulds for about $20 each . Lee's liquid Alox is about $3 a bottle . So you could do the whole deal for about $75 .
Then later if you wanted you could get other moulds , lubrisizers etc.
Just a thought :castmine:

[6pt-sika]

Not to worry... I'm already a billionaire.

Will that be in stainless or blue?... :mrgreen:

Well since "you asked" . I like both :drinks:

Although I prefer the CB or retro type as well as the Guide Gun type .

Only thing I do not like are barrel bands:( Even thou I own an 1894FG and a 336Y. They shoot well enough , but they do not help in the accuracy department.

I am not adverse to shooting any of them as long as I like them . Granted I like some a whole lot more then others . I recently acquired a first model 444. That has a pair of barrel bands . I bought it because it was the first type 444 and not that I liked it . But after playing with it some I have warmed up to it you might say [smilie=1:

[6pt-sika]

Pat is their any way you guys could start some sort of custom shop , for this type of thing ? I realize the price will most likely double or triple . But I was wondering:???:

[JDL]

I have used several Lyman molds since 1976 but, in about the last year and a half, have grown to perfer the RCBS 45-300 FNGC above all the others. WW alloy drops at 335 grains and doesn't empty your ww bucket as quickly as the heavier weights. I've tested for accuracy at 100 yards with 1.75" average of 5 groups and I wouldn't hesitate to use it on game as large as elk, which is exactly what I plan to do. -JDL

[Ranch Dog]

I'd also like to see a run of 336D's in 30-30 and 32 Speciel.

Add the 356 & 375 Winchester to this run!!!

[Maineboy]

Typically I size in dies that take little or nothing from the bullet . My die for 45-70's and 450's is .459 ". I have intentions of having Lee make me a .460" in one of their sizers .[smilie=1:

It's a pretty simple job to hone out a Lee sizer a few thousandths to get the size you want, and much cheaper than paying the custom price.