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Multigunner
02-07-2010, 11:46 PM
Here are some shortcuts to free downloads of publications from the late 19th and early 20th century which have excellent information on the development of the Lee Enfield Rifles and the .303 British cartridge.

First
"Rifles and Ammunition and Rifle Shooting" 1915 by Ormundsen and Robinson
This book printed early in WW1 pulls no punches in giving details of criticisms of Britian's military rifle of the day and it ammunition, and gives honest comparsions to the other military rifles in use during the early days of WW1.
http://books.google.com/books?id=kd_NAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Rifles+and+ammunition+and+rifle+shooting&source=bl&ots=tYF8rCumog&sig=eoNT-gxpIxe-Cdc5pJZDX1pR4Hg&hl=en&ei=UnhvS5zYHY60tges7o3_BQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAoQ6AEwAA

Next
"Sniping in France" 1920 by Vernon Hesketh Pritchard, the man most noted for the advancement of battlefield sniping and scouting as an art.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.archive.org%2Fdetails%2Fsnipi nginfrancew00pricrich&ei=j3lvS7TZFsWUtgfC7LmSBg&usg=AFQjCNFQitpiCih3mAl4b2WX2s9UPWDPwg

"The Gun and its Development" by William Wellington Greener 1910 edition
http://books.google.com/books?id=vIffAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+gun+and+its+development&source=bl&ots=x3JkkNj8oI&sig=In4D122rO24Lq3GvifSpPQFG0qg&hl=en&ei=OHpvS_HnE8i0tgfP0cn8BQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBYQ6AEwAg


"The Book of the Rifle" by Thomas Francis Freemantle (Lord Cottesloe)
http://books.google.com/books?id=eHQCAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+book+of+the+rifle&source=bl&ots=sMk5pZRjTg&sig=IKwdsHeHuhdMzthWrlc3xHUzwGY&hl=en&ei=s3pvS9z8Eo2wtgfjvsmKBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAw

These books deal with much more than the Enfield rifles and .303 ammunition, so they give a better overall picture than specialised books aimed at the collector, books of the latter sort spend too much time on telling the collector what he wants to hear rather than giving facts.

I like the Enfields, own several and spent quite a bit of time restoring and shooting these and numerous others, so I've seen both the good and the bad.
I've noted a disturbing tendency by some Enfield collectors to urge people new to shooting to ignore basic safety concerns and safety warnings posted by the National Rifle Associations of the US, Australia, and Great Britian.
Some myths about the Enfield can result in dangerous situations for the shooter.
No high powered rifle can safely fire ammunition that is muddy or when mud is in the chamber, not the SMLE or any other rifle.
Instructions on cleaning ammunition, clips, and magazines in the Regulations for Musketry make it plain that many rifles were redendered unservicable by mud getting into the chamber.
Even a very wet cartridge, from firing in rain, can cause the action body of the SMLE to crack. This happened even on rifle ranges, so it most likely was a problem in combat, since battles unlike baseball games were seldom called on account of rain.
Gas erosion, especially of a bore already oversized by modern standards can result in bullet jacket separation in the bore, while this was most commonly noted when tublar open base and open nosed jackets were used with some early .303 loads , it can also occur with Full metal jacket bullets if the extent of gas washing due to blowby is high. In at least one instance gas erosion coupled with a rough bore resulted in blow through of a closed base open point bullet, the shooter being killed by a fragment of shattered bolthead and extractor.
While tests run on stuck jackets and stuck bullets under controled conditions indicate that a barrel will usually snap off or blow out before the action failed, the over sized chambers of military .303 rifles coupled with damage to the chamber from wire gauze pull throughs and other rough field cleaning methods , along with generous headspace can result in case blowouts and shattered boltheads.


Most who visit this board are interested in preserving older rifles of all types by working up safe accurate loads using cast bullets at reasonable velocities at fairly low pressure levels.
While an Enfield rifle in good to very good condition can handle any modern .303 load that meets SAAMI specifications, there are loadings of the .303 that were not intended for use in the infantry rifle at all, and during wartime it was prohibited to use such ammo except in emergency situations when no other ammo was available.

After each World War millions of rounds of defective or compromised ammunition were dumped in the North Sea. Some of the ammo scheduled for destruction was sold to scrap dealers, some of this ended up back on the surplus market.
During the Afghan/Soviet dustup millions of rounds of blackmarket and counterfiet .303 ammo ended up on the market.
In recent years production quality of military spec ammunition has ranged from excellent to absymal, and apparently some deliberately sabotaged .303 ammo has shown up on the market, left over from counter insurgency operations in Africa.

Taking all this into account, my own take on this is that if you own a .303 rifle its best to limit your shooting to ammunition of proven quality, or better yet assemble handloads taylored to your individual rifle.


Due to the British government's insistence on continuing to use Cordite propellant, for decades after more suitable propellants became available, despite the loss of capital ships, with thousands of crewmen, the disasterous explosions at Cordite factories and ammunition factories, shorter usable bore life and lowered level of accuracy, excessive muzzle flash that gave away a gunner's position and required night fighter pilots to use retractable lenses in gunsights to avoid being blinded by the flash from their own guns, and many other drawbacks, the Enfield rifles are very different in some ways from other bolt action rifles of the period. The most notable is the extra deep grooves and oversized and often inconsistent bore diameter.
This can pose difficulties in matching up bullet to bore and often a load must depend on bumping up of the bullet to fill the grooves.

Its very satisfying to get one of these old warhorses to shoot well, but it can be very vexing at times.

I'll add a few more links later on, I suggest you download and save these works for future reference.

herbert buckland
02-08-2010, 01:10 AM
I dowloaded Sniping In France,but could not figer out how to download the others,but my thanks for the information i have been looking for that book for years

Multigunner
02-08-2010, 02:53 AM
I dowloaded Sniping In France,but could not figer out how to download the others,but my thanks for the information i have been looking for that book for years

For those books found on the online readable pages theres a small download link at the upper righthand corner of the page, click it and two or more methods of downloading will usually show as a drop down, PDF is the easiest for me, but there are a variety of downloads for most files with a selection of readers.

The older books at Googlebooks and at the Internet Archive links are scanned from actual books found on library shelves of various universities, since these were printed long ago scans of these are in public domain, reprints of these same books, or later editions may not be in public domain and still under copyright protection.
Personally I prefer a good book to a PDF, but to buy hard copy of books like this could run into a small fortune, if they are even available.

Googlebooks offers many such free downloads and they also sell downloads of books still under copyright.
internet Archive only links to public domain files or sites where they can be found such as Googlebooks.

There are a number of other great sources of free downloads such as the Guttenberg Project.

dromia
02-09-2010, 03:23 AM
Can't see the download link you are refering to, any chance of a screen shot to help identify it?

Multigunner
02-09-2010, 03:31 AM
Can't see the download link you are refering to, any chance of a screen shot to help identify it?

Sorry I don't know how to make a screenshot.
I'll try to create a shortcut to the download page for those books.

Heres a shortcut to "Rifles and ammunition and Rifle shooting"
http://books.google.com/books?id=kd_NAAAAMAAJ&source=gbs_ViewAPI

One for "the gun and its Development"
http://www.archive.org/details/gunitsdevelopmen00greerich

"The Book of the Rifle"
http://books.google.com/books?id=eHQCAAAAYAAJ&dq=The+Book+of+the+Rifle&source=gbs_navlinks_s

herbert buckland
02-09-2010, 06:45 AM
Got the Greener book downloaded ,thank you,lick you i do prefer the book but on a pension funds are limited and i would never have been able to aford these books and shoot as well

dromia
02-09-2010, 04:02 PM
Nope no down load facility on the google site.

The Greener book from the Internet Archive site download no problem.

Can anyone else get a download from the Google sites?

If so can you put up a screenshot of the link.

I've clicked every link on the google pages and it all directs me to is a purchasing the books option with snippets of text.

Any info as to why we seem to be getting two different versions of the same URL would be helpful.

Thanks a curious dromia.

Multigunner
02-09-2010, 06:47 PM
Nope no down load facility on the google site.

The Greener book from the Internet Archive site download no problem.

Can anyone else get a download from the Google sites?

If so can you put up a screenshot of the link.

I've clicked every link on the google pages and it all directs me to is a purchasing the books option with snippets of text.

Any info as to why we seem to be getting two different versions of the same URL would be helpful.

Thanks a curious dromia.

I just noticed you are located in the UK.
Due to differences in Copyright laws those books by British authors may still be copyright protected in the UK, and UK servers might be set to block downloads from Google Books.
I'd noticed recently that the BBC site won't allow viewers in the US to watch online episodes of popular series on BBC. We get those same episodes about a year after they are shown in Britain.

dromia
02-10-2010, 02:41 AM
Anyone care to burn the books to disc and send to me, I'll cover any out of pocket.

PM me if anyone is willing.

Four Fingers of Death
02-10-2010, 05:38 AM
did you try right clicking on the link and selecting "save target as" That usually works when everything else fails,

dromia
02-10-2010, 06:15 AM
Problem is there isn't such a link on my google page.

Multigunner
02-10-2010, 07:38 AM
Anyone care to burn the books to disc and send to me, I'll cover any out of pocket.

PM me if anyone is willing.

If my host site contract had not unexpectedly expired I'd be able to PM you a link to download from my online cache.
I'll be finding a new host shortly, if we can't sort it out before then I'll get back to you.

You may find the rest of the books on Internet Archive, the search function works pretty easily. They usually have multiple methods of downloading from multiple sites, perhaps only google books are blocked in your region.

I haven't tried burning discs on this new PC, if I figure out how to do so I'll let you know.

Not sure if a PDF that large can be sent as an attachment, probably not.

closey
02-10-2010, 02:42 PM
I am also in the UK and have the same problem as Dromia. The Greener book link is fine, the rest no link.

Closey

94Doug
02-11-2010, 02:12 AM
dromia, I'd be willing to give it a try. I am downloading the pdf's now.

Doug

herbert buckland
02-11-2010, 04:07 AM
Anyone care to burn the books to disc and send to me, I'll cover any out of pocket.

PM me if anyone is willing.Carfull you might get transported to Australia for such a terible crime

mroliver77
02-11-2010, 06:53 PM
Some of the "chat" programs will let you transfer large files rather easily. I am willing to help if I can.
Jay

c3d4b2
02-11-2010, 09:39 PM
Do you have a PDF icon? If you do then open it in pdf and then save the file.

Multigunner
02-11-2010, 10:20 PM
Do you have a PDF icon? If you do then open it in pdf and then save the file.

That seems to be the problem, for some reason the UK servers block some downloads, most likely due to the differences in copyright protection between the US and Britain. Copyright protections extend far longer in some parts of the world.

In the US anything printed around 1910 or earlier is presumed to be in public domain, so scans of a book printed that long ago are free. A copy of the same work printed after 1910 can't be copied and distributed freely unless other factors put the work outside copyright protection.
This is why only early copies are scanned for the Internet Archive.

The UK servers must block certain sites or downloads in the way school computers block certain materials from students.