Remington 141

[Heavy lead]

I have one in 35 Remington, it's the only centerfire rifle I have I've never reloaded for it, kinda forgot about it until I read Layne Simpson's article on the model 14 in the latest Shooting Times and brought it out, boy it is a smooth pump gun and seems to be accurate with the tang peep sight and factory ammunition. Does anyone have one here? And does anyone shoot the Ranch Dog in it, I'm thinking this will be a marriage made in heaven. I know I can shuck the loads in with this faster than any lever gun.

[twotrees]

I missed an "New" one when I was 16 for 25 $ (Dad said NO !!). Got one last year at my favorite Pawn shop. Great gun, mine has a vintage Lyman 4X with post and cross wire scope.

I have been shooting RCBS 200 gr GC in mine over IMR 3031, near max, but just just under. 3 shots into 1.5 inches at 100 yards, that is fine for the girls I go out with.

You need to get that gun out and go slay some hog/ deer. Here in Ga 75 yards is a Long Shot. Too Much brush.

Have fun with that 'Ol gal she's a keeper.

[Heavy lead]

I plan on it, it was my grandads who's been gone for 25 years now, I didn't get it until a couple years ago, shot a few groups with it, then put it in the safe. That's exactly what I'm gonna do, shoot it, my is it ever smooth, it makes my lever guns jealous. I got to studying on it, it's quite a design from what I can tell about it.
Thanks for your input.

[madsenshooter]

I may be wrong, if I am I'm sure someone will tell me, but I think the 14 was designed by John Pederson, of Pederson Device fame. He also designed a semi-auto that lost out to the Garand. The 141 was just an update of the 14s basic design.

[Baron von Trollwhack]

I've got one made in 1937 and fired less than 20 rounds, probably 97%. not drilled, no initials carved, no freckles.

My plan is to load one box of those Speer 180 kinda pointy J bullets, shoot minimally to check at 100, one shot to check at 50 and then take it out on those beautiful fall days two or three times a year till I'm gone or I get a little deer. BvT

[358wcf]

It seems more than a few of these fine old Remington Pump rifles have come into our hands due to the passing of their original owners. These fine rifles were made at a time when quality meant something, and carry, perhaps, just a bit of the character and presence of their former owners, most of whom were dear friends and family.
I know of 2 of these, a Rem14 in 30Rem, and a Rem141 in 35Rem. I plan to restore the wood on the 14, and refinish the metal to a subdued matte blue, and keep it as a small game gun. The 141 is in much better shape, and is almost ready to take a role as a cast-boolit deerslayer.
Keep these fine old rifles as they are (or were), and respect them for the tools that they provided to hunters such as our fathers and grandfathers. They have earned the respect we give them.
When is the last time you saw a young hunter buy a new pump-action deer rifle?
Carrying one of these afield is a sure sign of maturity and respect for those who did so before!!! Think about it-

358wcf [smilie=1:[smilie=1:[smilie=1:

[dubber123]

A 14 in .35 Rem. is on my "must have" list. They aren't getting any cheaper though.

[Shane]

My M14 is a .32 Rem. carbine, made about 1915. Lyman tang sight with a 1/16" white bead, straight grip stock. It is a very nice gun that I use every year during deer season. Nice thing is you can pick one of these up for next to nothing in .30 or .32 since Rem. stopped loading for them.

[dubber123]

My M14 is a .32 Rem. carbine, made about 1915. Lyman tang sight with a 1/16" white bead, straight grip stock. It is a very nice gun that I use every year during deer season. Nice thing is you can pick one of these up for next to nothing in .30 or .32 since Rem. stopped loading for them.

If you find a few more, send them my way, I'll feed 'em! I have a lead on a .30, but I've been working on it for over a year. :cry:

[Baron von Trollwhack]

FWIW I have a Model14 rifle in 32 Remington also. The 30 R brass is periodically available and easily forms to 32. I use 32 Winchester Special loading data and it groups very nicely @ 100. I've gotten several deer with it and the last game it got was a feral dog/coyote. The Lee loader in 32 Special also works for the Remington. BvT

[R.C. Hatter]

:coffeecom I have a Remington M-14 in .32 Remington. I use Lyman #321297 GC over 27.0 grs. Alliant Rx-7 and a CCI standard LR primer in reformed .30 Remington cases.
Most .30/30 or .32 Winchester data will work in these rifles. Mine is plenty accurate for deer hunting.

[Heavy lead]

I'm really looking forward to casting for this, I have gotten in on the RD NOE group buy and hope this boolit shoots well, I'm sure it will, then I'm going to go shoot a deer with it next fall. It surely has a lot of class and character, the rifle is in great shape with just a few love scratches and most of the blueing on it. The only thing I've done to it is replace the front bead with an ivory bead.

[Trifocals]

I have a 141. I bought it at a gun show several years ago. It's in very good condition and came with a 2 1/2 X Weaver scope with a dot reticle. .35 Rem. cal.. So far I have only shot several brands of factory "J" ammo through it. It is exceptionally accurate (1" @ 100yds). It definitely is a keeper. It has accounted for several deer for me. It is scheduled for cast boolit fodder as soon as I get round tuit. [smilie=1:

[26Charlie]

I picked up at a gun show a M141 in .30 Rem needed a couple of stock repairs, which I did; barrel code shows it was made in Oct 1938. $300. Shot it today with the Lyman 311291 RNGC 175 gr. bullet and 21 gr. Scot 4197. The cases show a small flat or two at the mouth with some smoke or gas discoloration. I m presuming that the load is too low pressure. Has anyone seen this ?

The picture shows almost all cases of the ten have the little flat at the mouth. The second picture is of the worst one, with a loaded round in a once-fired case on the left and a loaded round in a new case on the right.

Groups show some vertical dispersion.

As an aside, I also have a M14 .32 Rem and a M141 .32 Rem, both with aperture sights, and a M141 .35 Rem with a scope. The .30 Rem above has a 4X scope I put on, since it came with bases but no iron sight.

Here's a very useful link if you take it apart. The innards are wonderfully clever and intricate.
http://www.remingtonsociety.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2093

[Bret4207]

FWIW- I have a set of 32 Rem dies available. Took me several months to locate and affordable set. If any one needs them, PM me. They ain't cheap, but it's lots less than ordering custom.

[rockrat]

I have a 141 in 35 Rem. that I picked up last year. Paid an outrageous sum for it , but it has to be in at least 95% shape. Must have been in a safe for decades. All origional. Action feels like butter. First one I have seen around here in 20 years

About brass for the 30/32's, I wonder if you could try some of the brass for the 6.8spc cartridge,that is used in the AR15, and just neck it up and reform it. I beleive it is based on the the 30rem case.

[Mk42gunner]

I'm still kicking myself for not buying a well used Model 14 in .35 Remington for $189.00 in San Diego twenty years ago.


Robert

[NVcurmudgeon]

Huntington's, curiously right next door to RCBS in Oroville, CA, has .30 Rem. cases in stock at reasonable prices, or did last time I checked.

[No_1]

I also have a Mod 14 that I got from dad many years ago. The wood looked good but the metal finish was pitted so I had it parkerized. It does sport a tang sight and I must agree that it is a mechanical marvel.

R.

[Baron von Trollwhack]

WE have had threads on the 14/141s before.

I think the load 26charlie has above may be a little light in terms of neck sealing and gas stains. Likely too, the little neck flat may be from strong, quick ejection. They can be worked slowly.

I found it to be helpful to accuracy to keep a bit of outward pressure on the pump handle as you squeeze the shot off. If you work it the other way, you unlock the handle the instant the machine fires. BvT

[NVcurmudgeon]

Dunno the correct nomenclature, but I need what I call a "magazine dust cover." It is the piece of tin that covers the slot in the magazine and is held to the front of the receiver by one screw. Anybody know where to find one of these? Mine broke at the 90 degree bend at the receiver end and now reciprocates with the magazine.

[Yance]

My 14/141 is a interesting one. 3 digit SN, made in '34 or '35, (can't remember which) but it was the model change year.

Mine is a factory "parts" gun, the receiver is stamped Model 141, but the length and contours of the barrel match the 14.

[Yance]

Dunno the correct nomenclature, but I need what I call a "magazine dust cover." It is the piece of tin that covers the slot in the magazine and is held to the front of the receiver by one screw. Anybody know where to find one of these? Mine broke at the 90 degree bend at the receiver end and now reciprocates with the magazine.

Have you tried all the folks on this list?

http://tinyurl.com/ylds389

[quack1]

NV curmudgeon- Your broken part is called an action bar cover. Be careful you don't loose the cartridge stop, it is a small piece that is held in by the action bar cover. I'd try Numrich for replacement parts.

[26Charlie]

Increased the load about 10%, to 23.5 gr. 4197 behind the 311291 RNGC 175 gr. bullet. Gave me a nice 2 5/8" 5-shot group at 100 yd. Trying to see what is causing the case-mouth dents & gas discolorization; I can see by operating the action very slowly that the case mouth could hit the lower edge of the ejection port, causing a flat there. I did not have any apparent gas-leak discoloring and flats with this load.
The lighter load, as I think about it, could have had a sufficient pressure to seal the case to start with, but then as the bullet got moving the pressure curve begins to drop sharply. The bullet is seated deep, and the case has a long neck, so it has to move an inch or a little more until the bullet base clears the case mouth, at which point the pressure may have dropped enough so that it is not enough to seal the mouth of the case itself, allowing some little gas to flow around the case mouth. Since the case and half of the case neck is still sealed, that's as far as it goes. Or so I suppose.

[Southern Son]

How about some photos of these old rifles? Please!

[7x57]

Here's a model 14 in .32 caliber that I shot a tasty doe with a few years ago.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n212/msj348/PC070008.jpg

[Baron von Trollwhack]

Yepper, those 32 Remington's do that to even bigger deer. Seen that a number of times.

Great picture !

BvT

[Southern Son]

7x57, thanks for that, the black and white drawings don't do them justice. I have not seen one of them in the flesh. Sweet looking little rifle, thanks again.