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Te Hopo
01-26-2010, 12:16 AM
Warning, there are a LOT of pics.

I'm fairly new around here, but not new to rifles.
I joined this forum while searching for info on the .38-303 and have stuck around learning all sorts.

There seems to be a fair bit of interest in the Baikal IZH18MH (Remington/Spartan SPR18) so I thought I would share this write up on my project rifle.

I started this write up on another forum when I first got this rifle back in the middle of 2009, I'll just copy and post the relevant posts to here.

My aim is to make a handy little carbine, that is as at home in the bush hunting pigs and deer as it is at home in the mountains chasing thar and chamois and was inspired by the rifle featured in NZ Guns & Hunting in 2005.

Getting Started
To begin any project, you need a rifle.
The donor rifle is a standard single shot break open Baikal IZH-18MH.
They are available in NZ in .223Rem, 7.62x39, .308Win, .270Win and 30-06Spring.
After reading about one in .223 in NZ Guns & Hunting (in a nutshell, they found them to be commendably accurate and good value for money) I went straight to Reloaders Supplies website, downloaded the order form, obtained the necessary police signatures and faxed the forms back to Reloaders.
The rifle arrived a few days later for the princely sum of $375+20p&p. :D

The Stock
I ordered the plain birchwood stock for this seeing as I was thinking of modifying it and painting it flat black.
Instead, I get told they only do walnut on the .270, so thats what I have.
The Baikal stock and fore-end are made of a nice dense walnut and finished to a reasonable standard, the fit is tight, but the wood is a little proud on most joins and the checkering is ok with few over-runs.
Now interestingly, the IZH-18MH rifle stock and the IZH-18M shotgun stock are one and the same.
With 10mm of cast off, 36mm of drop to the comb, plus a drop to the heel of 60mm, it is clear this rifle was designed to use open sights, mounting a scope was an afterthought.
With a shotgun these dimensions are are measured from from the sightline, whereas on a rifle they are measured from the bore line.
Also a shotgun has approximately a 25mm longer length of pull, and there are also a couple of other key dimensions that differ between a shotgun and a rifle stock.
All these dimensions combine to dramatically influence the way a firearm handles and points when you bring it to shoulder.

Reducing the LOP is easy, changing the drop to the comb and heel is not.
I don't want to glue a piece of wood onto the comb like you sometimes see on sporterized .303s, so instead I will be aiming to overcome this dimensional problem by mounting the scope as low as possible on the rifle.
As is, it points beautifully and the open sights are a breeze to line up.
The recoil pad is very substantial, soft (thankfully) and the fit is smooth.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/DSCF0188.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/DSCF0177.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/DSCF0178.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/DSCF0179.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/DSCF0187.jpg
Now I will be finishing the stock to a higher standard, removing wood to improve the fit, shortening the LOP, thinning the fore-end down to a more comfortable grip, and maybe some carvings to really set it off.
Final finish will be rubbed oil.

Action & Metal work
All surfaces are smoothly polished and deeply blued, infact the finish on the metal is worlds ahead of the wood work.
The open sights are adjustable if you have a screwdriver handy, but are very solid and contoured.
The barrel has a beautiful twist to it that looks stunning, I've never seen it on another rifle, it also has a rounded end and a deep cut crown, no chance of the rifleing being damaged here.
The trigger is a single stage, has a fair amount of creep, is pretty rough and breaks at 1.45kg (about 3.5lb), so far I've found it easy to use.
The rifle has a button safety above the trigger that is easy to reach with your trigger finger that works by blocking the trigger and hammer, the cocking indicator is made of white plastic (the only plastic on the rifle) and is very easy to see.
The sling swivels are small and I will be replacing the one in the stock with a larger detachable swivel, the fore swivel is fixed to the barrel and will have to stay as is.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/DSCF0180.jpg

Scope
At the moment I have mounted an NcStar compact 4x30 on it in aluminum rings, all up $90 worth. (it's off one of my .22s)
Eventually I will mount a better scope in steel rings on it, but this will do for now.

The first thing is to set a budget- theres little point in mounting a $1000 scope on a $375 rifle and the final scope will be of modest magnification, 4x or less (even a 4x is too much when shooting a bailed pig at 10m or a surprised deer).
The scope also has to be compact so it won't look out of place on such a rifle.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/DSCF0185.jpg

Conclusion
With a little blood, sweat and dollars you can create a one of a kind rifle that will give a great deal of satisfaction.
I took it for a shoot this afternoon to sight in and test it out.
Recoil was easily manageable, I thought it might kick, but nope.
The open sights are zeroed at the factory and were a little low with the Frderal Premium 130g rounds I was using.
Adjusting the sights was easy, the rear moves side to side, while the front adjusts up and down with another screw, a few turns and it was spot on.
After mounting the scope, I started zeroing it in.
3x3shot groups and I'm good to go.
Best group was 2.3" at 150meters and a pinecone at the same distance
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/DSCF0183.jpg

If there is a downside to this rifle, it's the muzzle blast, it's certainly no pop gun and even with earmuffs, was very loud.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/DSCF0180-1.jpg

Te Hopo
01-26-2010, 12:17 AM
Well things are looking a lot better now:

I started by sanding back all of the woodwork and seeing where things stood.
Then with a sharp plane and very sharp chisel, then sandpaper, I started removing wood until I had a smooth transition between the wood and the metal.
So far it only has a coat of oil on it to protect it till I can get back to it:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/PICT0182.jpg

Te Hopo
01-26-2010, 12:17 AM
It has a much slimmer comfortable grip now and feels more like one of my Winchester .22's.
As you can see, it is slim, that scope is 30mm wide:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/PICT0193.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/PICT0191.jpg

I've been pleased with this scope and rings that are on it at the mo, after removing and replacing the scope each time, the point of impact hasn't changed.
Not bad for some cheap aluminum rings I reckon.
Still not sure whether I'll keep this scope on it, but I will upgrade the rings at some time.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/PICT0185.jpg

I've shortened the LOP and refitted the butt pad, what a difference this has made.
I've also fitted a detachable sling swivel with a butler creek neoprene sling and a butt cap made of Paua (NZ Abalone) shell, it still requires the final finishing for now, but looks awesome:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/PICT0188.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/PICT0190.jpg

I ended up buying a case instead of having one made as I found one to suit my requirements and it also fits my side by side shotgun.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/PICT0194.jpg
Field cleaning gear and a 20 round box that go in the side pocket:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/PICT0196.jpg
Ready to be packed:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/PICT0198.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/PICT0199.jpg
Complete easy to carry package:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/PICT0200.jpg

So far now I've fired maybe 50 rounds and taken out 2 feral sheep with head shots, man was that a mess!

Te Hopo
01-26-2010, 12:18 AM
Well guys here's an update.
I've now used this rifle to drop heaps of goats, thats been real fun and I also dropped a spiker Red Deer a few weeks back that my mate had knocked over with his .243.
When it got back up, one round from this through the ribs and it was down.

Heres some pics of just how compact it is compared to my mates loaded H&R .243:
http://www.survivalistboards.com/picture.php?albumid=88&pictureid=4195
http://www.survivalistboards.com/picture.php?albumid=88&pictureid=4197

Interesting to note the different barrel diameters, .243Win bull barrel on the left, .270Win lightweight on the right.
Check out the spiral finish on my .270, mmmm hmmm
http://www.survivalistboards.com/picture.php?albumid=88&pictureid=4198

I have also taken the scope out of the cheap aluminum rings which had moved ever so slightly back after 200+ rounds.
They have been replaced with some low Tasco steel rings.
This has dropped the scope about 4mm and makes for a better cheek weld.
We'll see how those hold up instead.
http://www.survivalistboards.com/picture.php?albumid=88&pictureid=4194

Currently I'm in the process of trimming excess wood from the butt stock area.
It will have a more pronounced but slimmer pistol grip, a Monte Carlo cheek rest and just be slimmer overall.
So far I've removed over 200grams of walnut, yee haa.

Te Hopo
01-26-2010, 12:19 AM
Currently I'm also working on my Target/Sniper .22 so this has been on hold for a while now.

I'm still removing wood and the pistol grip and cheek piece are starting to show through.
While on the west coast of NZ I found a length of a dark hard wood with a beautiful black reddish coloring.
I have cut a few slabs off it and will be using them on this rifle, one piece will replace the shell grip cap and one will be a line spacer on the fore end which will also be shortened in the process.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1566.jpg

Te Hopo
01-26-2010, 12:19 AM
Well I currently have the receiver in bits and am looking at the components.
Looks like I have a LOT of polishing ahead with the dremel as most of the bits have a rough cast finish on them.
The use so far has shown me where I need to polish the bits to try and smooth the whole let off.

Theres also some surface rust in there and a fair bit of hardened grease.
So the whole lot will be cleaned at the same time and covered in some fishing reel grease which stays soft and is waterproof.
That should protect the parts long term.

Te Hopo
01-26-2010, 12:20 AM
So I dismantled the whole trigger area last night and polished and greased it all today.
It is looking much better than it did before the polish, each part is moving freely and smoothly now.
Only thing left is to get the firing spring back in, which is proving difficult considering the strength of it and the fact I don't have a spring clamp. :rolleyes:
I haven't adjusted the spring rates at all so pull weight is the same while it is now more consistent with no scratchiness.

I'm just glad I got the whole thing back together in working order as this is more complicated than the triggers on my rimfires. :thumb:

Before:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1569.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1568.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1571.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1573.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1576.jpg

And then after:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1585.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1579.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1580.jpg

Te Hopo
01-26-2010, 12:20 AM
Today I was working on the fore grip, over an inch was removed from the very forward section last night and a piece of the hard wood epoxied into the gap.

This morning I removed the clamp and rough sanded it down and applied a little danish oil to one spot.
The contrast is exactly what I was looking for.
It still needs final sanding and finishing, but that is the extent of any mods to the fore grip now. :thumb:

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1590.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1587.jpg

And the oiled side:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1588.jpg

Te Hopo
01-26-2010, 12:20 AM
And as it looks on the rifle at the moment:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1591.jpg

Te Hopo
01-26-2010, 12:21 AM
I went out to the shed late last night to have some time out and glued the new dark wood grip cap on.
This morning I gave it an initial trimming and this is how it has turned out:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1592.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1593.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1595.jpg

Te Hopo
01-26-2010, 12:21 AM
Damn time flies when I get in a groove, the movie on tv finished at about 11.30pm and rather than head to bed, I decided to do some more shaping to the rear stock and grip cap.
This is what I had after a little cutting with a fine hacksaw blade and a little chiseling:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1605.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1609.jpg

A little more shaping with some 60grit:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1613.jpg

It's not perfectly rounded yet, but this is just a rough out.
Then I switched to some 120grit paper and started on getting a nice transition from the dark wood to the walnut:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1612.jpg

Then I moved onto defining the edges and cleaning up some rough spots on the stock since I had the chisels out.
Then an all over sand with the 120grit to clean up and I can see clearly now where it still needs attention, such as behind the bottom of the pistol grip and around the front of the cheek piece:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1610.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1614.jpg

It's now almost 2am, so time to hit the sack for a few hours.

Te Hopo
01-26-2010, 12:22 AM
Well here is how it stood at lunch time:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1633.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1634.jpg

And as it is now with the first coat of oil and sanded to 600grit and a mix of 1/3 oil to 2/3 turps:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1636.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1640.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1637.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1641.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1642.jpg

It is now in the hot water tank cupboard to soak in and dry.
This mix will soak in and raise the grain which will feel furry.
It will be sanded smooth again with more of this oil mix and 1000grit paper till it's smooth again

Te Hopo
01-26-2010, 12:22 AM
The stock is looking more in proportion now that I have refitted the original butt pad and trimmed it.
I will upgrade it to a better quality one that fits well in the future, but for now this one will do the job.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1647.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1648.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1649.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1651.jpg

Te Hopo
01-26-2010, 12:29 AM
And as it sits now guys, the scale reads 6.4lbs scoped.
I'm happy with that, I could go lighter as the barrel has a fair amount of weight, but I like this for now.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1700.jpg

Te Hopo
01-26-2010, 12:32 AM
Heres a breakdown of the weights from a mate with a .223 model:

Forend metal work, recoil pad, buttstock screws 230 grams
Wooden forend 135 grams
Scope and mounts 380 grams
Buttstock 615 grams
Action 750 grams
Barrel 223 1500 grams
The differance between a 223 and a 308 barrel is 112 grams,

Te Hopo
01-26-2010, 01:49 AM
Here we go, I've mounted a Tasco Pronghorn 1.75-5x20 to it in the low Tasco rings.
It gives a better eye relief than the NcStar did and a better field of view.
At 1.75x you can see the front sight in the scope which is cool, yet 5x is plenty enough for the planned max range of 300yds.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1825.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1819.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1821.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1820.jpg

Nice and slim:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1823.jpg

It shoulders nice and it's easy:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/dhit/Baikal%20Rifle/KIF_1818.jpg

waksupi
01-26-2010, 02:06 AM
Nice work!

jdgabbard
01-26-2010, 04:21 AM
Looks good!

Echo
01-26-2010, 01:20 PM
Sweet gun! I am inspired!

1ruralmailman
09-17-2010, 06:43 AM
have you had any trouble with the rings holding on to the groves under recoil?

rhbrink
09-17-2010, 07:15 AM
Very nice job good work. I've seen several that someone has redone the stock and turned then into a very nice looking rifle. Curious about the scope base myself as I have read of some reports where people have had problems with the scope base. There use to be a European rifle maker that put a twist on the outside of the barrel similiar to the Russian. Can't rember who it was but use to see them once in a while when I was a young'un always liked the look.

82nd airborne
09-17-2010, 09:38 AM
You said you paid 375 for it!? Looks very nice, I would eventually like to refine one of those sometime. we are currently selling them for $249 though, with the nickle plated receiver. I think a nice stock from a burled peice of walnut and honing the action would make for a nice rifle.

PatMarlin
09-21-2010, 01:02 PM
Outstanding!!

Just Duke
09-21-2010, 09:31 PM
Fantastic Job!!!!

Just Duke
09-21-2010, 09:32 PM
You said you paid 375 for it!? Looks very nice, I would eventually like to refine one of those sometime. we are currently selling them for $249 though, with the nickle plated receiver. I think a nice stock from a burled peice of walnut and honing the action would make for a nice rifle.

PM sent.

Te Hopo
01-18-2011, 06:18 PM
Hey guys, an update on this rifle.

So I managed to find an aluminum rail suitable for mounting on this rifle.
I took it to an engineering shop and for a very modest fee (A box of beers) they machined off the dovetail and left me with a virgin flat surface perfect for mounting this rail.

The before shot, showing the new rail and Weaver rings alongside the old scope rings I had fitted.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1145.snc4/148761_10150102306160289_717725288_7605295_6190985 _n.jpg

I drilled and tapped the barrel myself being very careful to keep it aligned to the bore and extremely careful not to drill right through! ;)
It was bedded with 5min epoxy and is going nowhere unless some serious heat is applied.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs562.ash2/148404_10150102327515289_717725288_7605588_2634185 _n.jpg

With this base and the new ultra low rings fitted I have finally lowered the scope as much as I would want to for a comfortable cheek weld, overall I have lowered it 6mm over the old rings I had fitted and there is no possibility of scope slip when firing heavier recoiling ammo.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1154.snc4/149596_10150102327625289_717725288_7605590_2519120 _n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1136.snc4/149810_10150102327775289_717725288_7605591_1642052 _n.jpg

Meanwhile it still leaves plenty of space for loading:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs985.snc4/75884_10150102327890289_717725288_7605592_4723516_ n.jpg

I now have the option of easily changing scopes as well, after testing I found that there was less than a 1MOA shift in impact after removing and replacing the scope.
So I have 2 scopes zeroed for different loads now, the 1.75-5x20 is my close in bush scope and zeroed with a 150grain Barnes TSX for big stuff close in.
And a 3-9x40 is fitted to make those longer shots easier and zeroed with a 130grain Nosler E-Tip which shoots easily 1.5MOA at 100m.
The only problem with fitting the 3-9x40 is it needs higher rings and the rear sight removed to fit, but with witness marks on the sight and base, I have found there is minimal change in the POI as I have the open sights zeroed for only 25m as thats as far as my eyes can focus (hence the lower magnification scope for close in shooting) and a butt pouch is fitted for the higher cheek weld.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs967.snc4/75998_10150102327415289_717725288_7605586_2501237_ n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1146.snc4/148828_10150102328430289_717725288_7605600_7891812 _n.jpg

Te Hopo
01-18-2011, 06:20 PM
You said you paid 375 for it!? Looks very nice, I would eventually like to refine one of those sometime. we are currently selling them for $249 though, with the nickle plated receiver. I think a nice stock from a burled peice of walnut and honing the action would make for a nice rifle.

That was $375 New Zealand dollars, we don't get the cheap rifles like you guys.
For comparison, a Rem 700 will set us back at least a $1000 and a Stevens 200 goes for $700.:sad:

But yea, I have seen one fitted with a Grade AA walnut stock and ebony highlights, man it looked fine.