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fatelk
01-21-2010, 05:13 PM
This old thing was given to me a couple years ago. I thought I'd be able to use it to melt lead, but I can't figure out how to make it work, or if it's even usable anymore. Anyone know anything about these?

max it
01-21-2010, 05:43 PM
Dear Fat Elk,

I wish I could remember enough to tell you. I had a similar one for cooking while living in the foothills of the Himalayas, yes sir.

Try putting white gas in it. Then there should be a small tray around the supply pipe. Put a bit of gas in that and light it. When it begins to warm up there should be a L shaped lever which you have to rotate. That clears the supply nozzle. Then the fire ring should take off but you might have to help it by lighting it. Oh yea you need to prime it before the L lever thingie. Now you can open supply valve all the way. It was only open a quarter of a turn while warming up. Not exactly in order, I said I could barely remember. It was 1960's.

WHITE GAS ISNT GASOLINE

WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS ASK COLEMAN.


Good luck,


Max

Echo
01-22-2010, 03:11 AM
Max forgot to mention that you have to pump it up to pressurize the tank. Otherwise, that's the way I remember using Coleman lanterns when flatfishing in Galveston Bay. How many pumps? About that many. And you might have to replace the leather on the pump, or at least oil it some, to rejuvenate it.

I'll bet there are instructions on the net somewhere that will make more sense than whatever I say...

Shiloh
01-22-2010, 06:53 AM
Coleman fuel, pump it, turn the little lever up to light it. After the generator tube heats up, turn the lever down. As old as it is, the leather sleeve on the pressure pump is probably dried out or rotted off. Check it and oil or replace if necessary.

Shiloh

10 ga
01-22-2010, 01:22 PM
Try this

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/parts/parts_stove.asp

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/parts/parts_stove.asp

10 ga

fatelk
01-22-2010, 01:57 PM
Here's the problem: It has no pump. I see no provision for a pump, either.

I used a much smaller one years ago, and remember that one having a pump, but this one just has a fill cap. I've checked the thing over thoroughly and it does not have a pump of any kind.:veryconfu

fatelk
01-22-2010, 02:24 PM
Google works well when I use the right search words!

The fill plug looked like one could perhaps attach some kind of external pump to it, so I searched for "Coleman burner external pump" and found this:http://terrence.marsh.faculty.noctrl.edu/lantern/colestovespre1945.html
It's titled Coleman stoves pre-1945, and shows a photo of one like mine about 2/3 of the way down. It's a model 460G Handy Gas Plant:

"Coleman made larger heating units called Handy Gas Plants
for such places as dairies, farms, and workshops.
Models 457G (left and center) and 460G (right), are both running in these images.
They require an external pump and have pressure gauges.
The 457G has an optional heater top in the image on the left.
The 457G has a 5", 35000 BTU burner on a 3 gallon fount,
while the 460G has a 7", 50000 BTU burner on a 3 gallon fount (Dan Boschen)."

Lacking the proper pump, it looks like this think is pretty much worthless to me. Oh, well.

10 ga
01-22-2010, 02:33 PM
Check out what they have here on "Spirit burner" I have several older model Coleman stoves, none of the collectible brass stuff, that I inherited and am able to keep them working, to remember the ancestors and take camping. I mostly use "fish fryers" and charcoal/wood forge to do my smelting/casting now.

http://www.spiritburner.com/fusion/index.php

That would be a good place to get your best $ for it if you are selling.

10 ga