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Chunky Monkey
01-11-2010, 08:25 AM
Finally made a trip to the CMP North store Saturday morning. 311 miles and it took exactly 5 hours (ran into some snow here and there). Got there right at 8:30 and there were only a few guys there. I thought it would be nuts maybe the weather kept a few folks away. Not much for rack grade carbines, the guage was getting lost in them and the wood was pretty rough!

Had 2 guys from Illinois who knew there carbines and they helped me out a little. Ended up finding an IBM service grade with an Win barrel that guaged a hair over 1 and was nice and shiny inside. The stock will need a little tlc but I like it. Only stamping is an 'I' in the sling well. This one has a stamped rear site assembly. They figured it is a Bavarian due to the reddish color and stampings in the trigger assy. A little research last night revealed that my IBM (at least my trigger assembly) appears to be an 'Austrian' Landes Gendarmerie Kommando (Gendarmerie Command for the Land of). It was used in OberoÖsterreich (Upper Austria). There are no markings on the receiver. As I indicated my trigger assy is sort of a reddish tint. Apparently they were reblued by the Austrians at an incorrect temperature.

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Since I was only planning on getting one I put my name on it and put it behind the counter while I looked for a better one.

Well I found one, a Winchester with a Winchester barrel (guaged at about 1) and a real nice stock punched 'I O' in the sling well with a cartouche 'B A' over top of 'J P L' on the left hand side beside reciever. Crossed cannons on the right hand side of the butt stock. It also has the 'P' proof stamping. It has a milled rear site assembly. Figured I would put the IBM back and get the Winnie. Well one of those guys was telling me that you ain't never gonna see em again at this price. Well I ended up getting both.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee267/Metzy84/M1%20Carbine/102_2284.jpg

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Here they are, the IBM has the sling on it.

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http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee267/Metzy84/M1%20Carbine/102_2279.jpg

Was able to disassemble the trigger assemblies last night and clean out all the cosmoline. Oiled and put back together. Need to finish cleaning them up and then I gotta find some ammo! :bigsmyl2:

doubs43
01-11-2010, 01:07 PM
Those are two nice looking carbines. I used one in Air Force basic training to qualify "Expert". That was in March, 1965 and not long before they changed over to the M-16.

oldhickory
01-11-2010, 01:29 PM
The BA in the block stands for, Benicia Arsenal indicating a post war rebuild at that arsenal. JPL are the initials of the inspector at Benicia Arsenal, I haven't been able to put a name with it yet.

IO in the sling well...Could it be backwards? OI perhaps? If it's OI, it would indicate an Inland stock made by S.E.Overton Co. S.Haven , MI. I can find no reference to IO what so ever, but I need to dig around, "War Baby!" yet...Once I find it.

mto7464
01-12-2010, 07:06 PM
The trigger housing is of different metal type and doesn't take on the same color as the barrel and receiver when being blued. If you look at the spring steel on k98's it does the same thing. Different metal types different colors. My 870 barrel is blue but the portion underneath that attached the barrel to the tube mag is kind of a purple too.