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Dutchman
01-10-2010, 03:42 AM
The 1892 Swedish Trials rifles and carbines were a hybrid designed based on the m/1889 Belgian, m/1890 Turkish and m/1891 Argentine Mausers and Mauser patents in the bolt and magazine not yet introduced in production models. In the United States and even in Sweden, there was next to nothing known about this m/1892 Trials rifle & carbine.

Except there was this rifle in the U.S. Army collection at Aberdeen Proving Grounds, Maryland. It was collected by a U.S. Army intelligence team at the end of WW2 somewhere in Europe. The actual origin of the rifle is unknown but its Swedish and was an actual Trials rifle from Sweden. It may well have come out of the Mauser factory in Oberndorf but that's speculation on my part.

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6,5 bore, 6,8 groove, 200 mm twist rate, one turn in 200 mm = 7.874 inches.

This rifle is chambered in 6.5x55 with the original m/94 bullet of 156 grains and a round nose.

What made things come together a few years ago was the appearance of another m/1892 rifle and m/1892 carbine.

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8,0 bore, 8,28 groove, 280 mm twist rate, one turn in 280 mm = 11.02 inches.

This rifle is chambered in 8x58R Danish as this was the same caliber used by Sweden in the m/1867-89 rolling block from 1889 to 1898 with the introduction of the m/1896 Mauser rifle. The m/1894 Swedish Mauser carbine was introduced in 1895 with the carbines made by Mauser Oberndorf in Germany.

(this rifle and its sister carbine are valued in the neighborhood of $3,500 each)

What was even stranger was the serial numbers were consecutive for the two rifles, s/n 1136 was in Finland in a private collection while 1137 was at Aberdeen Proving Grounds, Maryland. But all the while 1137 was there it was thought to be s/n 137 because that's the only number visible on the rifle until it was taken apart by noted Mauser collector, John Wall. John sent me a CD with these photos and permission to use them on my website. The photos of s/n 1136 and carbine s/n 632 are shown in Mauser Bolt Action Rifles of the World 4th edition.

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The m/1892 Trials rifle had the non-rotating extractor that was first used in production rifles in the guise of the huge m/1893 Mauser contract with Spain.

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Swedish musketry school in a photo dated 1893 showing soldiers with m/1889 rolling blocks and two fellows with bolt action carbines. This same photo is shown in Crown Jewels: The Mauser in Sweden by Dana Jones. The photos came out of the Swedish military war archives in Stockholm.

Dutch

runfiverun
01-10-2010, 12:30 PM
dutchman i really like these pictorals you got here, they are informative.
thank you.

scrapcan
01-14-2010, 11:49 AM
Thanks Dutchman, once again this is and will continue to be an interesting read.

Uncle Grinch
01-14-2010, 02:22 PM
I also really enjoy your threads on Mausers. The photography is exceptional and the information is very interesting.

Keep it up!

Thank you for your efforts.

1874Sharps
01-14-2010, 03:11 PM
Very cool, Dutchman! I really like your informative and illustrative posts on the vintage RB and Mauser rifles. I made a pilgrimage to your ancestoral lands over the holidays while visiting my younger son in Germany.