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Mark Daiute
01-07-2010, 11:05 AM
Last year I bought the SAECO M1881 500 grain .460 mold from Buffalo Arms. The mold and the handles cost about 4 times what a Lee mold costs delivered to my PO Box. No matter as Lee does not have the mold that I needed.
Heres the problem: My 405 grain, hollow based Lee Mold is advertised as casting a .459 bullet and the bullet casts at all of that. I purchased the SAECO .460 mold from Buffalo as I wanted every bit of width I could get for my trapdoor. It casts a bullet considerably less than .460, more on the order of .457/8 (best I can tell with my Dial Caliper).
Anyone else run into this?
I'm using what I believe to be straight lead
Thanks,
Mark
I'm going to cross post over on single shot rifles.
bobthenailer
01-11-2010, 06:55 PM
fist what alloy are you useing ? saeco moulds are speced with taracorp mag alloy and they will cast .001 to .003 over stated size . if not send back to saeco or open up the mould, or have someone on this fourm do it for you.
Mark Daiute
01-11-2010, 09:56 PM
fist what alloy are you useing ? s
AFAIK- straight lead- I smelted it myself from scrap, old plumbing lead, roofing leads and the like.
Thanks,
Mark
454PB
01-11-2010, 11:25 PM
Cast size depends on the spec alloy the mould manufacturer uses. Pure lead will cast the smallest diameter of any "lead alloy". Add a little antimony and it will cast bigger.
HEAVYSHOT
02-04-2010, 07:24 PM
try the same thing with wheel weight and you will be ok heavyshot
13Echo
02-04-2010, 09:06 PM
I have the same mould. When cast of 30:1 alloy it mikes at .460"
Jerry Liles
Mark Daiute
02-04-2010, 11:32 PM
Life has been nuts lately. As soon as I have an afternoon to myself I'll try casting with wheel weights as well as alloying some lead 20 to 1 with tin. Will the addition of tin help increase "as cast" size?
It'll be interesting to see if the wheel weights cast with a greater diameter. On the other hand this mold is specifically for my trapdoor so I wanted a soft alloy.
We'll see.
Thanks for the responses.
Best,
Mark
trap shooter
02-05-2010, 01:29 AM
saeco and lyman all cast small good luck them to fix it go to hollowpoint mould service he can inlarge the mould
13Echo
02-06-2010, 10:44 AM
Adding tin to lead increases the fluidity of the melt which results in better fill out of the mould and increased diameter of the bullet produced. Also a hotter mould will cast a larger diameter bullet because of expansion of the mould metal. I tend to cast large bullets for the Sharps and Trapdoors at about 800deg F melt and prewarm the mould on a hotplate. It just seems to work better with these large bullets.
Jerry Liles
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