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Buckshot
12-21-2009, 03:46 AM
.............. Been busier then a one legged man in a fanny kicking contest recently. Between outside machine work, helpless relatives with plumbing and electrical problems, Donna allowed me to build her a deck :-) :

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Had to build it between rain storms. At least it gave me a chance to do the indoors stuff. Working for relatives you get paid with cakes and haircuts, ha! So anyway, in between job setups or with the lathe power feeding out, I was doing some brass prep stuff. I had a hundred 40-65 cases to get ready. While checking some things out I found out my Lyman die was sizing the cases down to .403" and I size my boolits to .410" for my Pedersoli RB. That's too much brass working.

Not much to be done to the size die, or nothing I was willing to tackle anyhow. For my Savage M10 FP 308 I'd gotten a Redding insert type neck sizing setup. I wondered why I couldn't make up something like that for the 40-65? So in between times I came up with this:

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I took one of my Lee push through die blanks to use for the body. Taking a few measurments I drilled it and then taper reamed it for clearance. The swapped it around in the collet and bored it to depth for a .625" OD insert and then bored and threaded it 3/4-16 for the insert stop piece.

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Later on I made the insert. The next day I honed it to size me a caseneck ID of .408". I didn't know if it would be best to have it a snug slip fit in the die body, or allow a bit of windage for self aligning? I split the diff and gave it a thou and a half clearance in the die body. It's effective sizing length is 5/8" but all I really need is a half inch. Even a 400 gr slug only seats about that deep.

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That evening before being allowed into the house [smilie=l: I made the height stop piece. When you push a case up into the die, the casemouth hits and will push the insert up a bit before it hits the stop, so the caseneck can enter and get sized. This way the die body doesn't have to be screwed up and down if sizing for different boolit weights (lengths). You can vary the length of the sized portion via the height stopper.

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The top case has made a trip into the insert sizer. The bottom case is fired and unsized. On the right is just another view of the sizing the insert does. It is very consistent in it's size around the case. The Lyman size die pretty much puts a taper on the whole top third of the case. This way with the insert only the part actually gripping the boolit gets sized. I wasn't looking for an accuracy enhancing deal as the rifle shoots way beyond my capabilities to hold it, but it was merely something to lessen brass working, and it does do that. Plus all you need is lube up around the casemouth for sizing.

.................Buckshot

Firebricker
12-21-2009, 08:17 AM
That's a slick die setup you got there Buckshot. The deck look's real good too !
Nice work. FB

dragonrider
12-21-2009, 09:57 AM
Nice job Rick, is that an o'ring in the insert, if so what does it do? I'm thinkin it provides tension on the stop piece to keep it in place.

Shiloh
12-21-2009, 11:23 AM
I both envy and appreciate you folks with access to machine tools and the knowledge and skill to use them.

Well Done Buckshot. The Pics really add to the thread. Thanx !!

Shiloh

deltaenterprizes
12-21-2009, 11:50 AM
Nice job Rick, is that an o'ring in the insert, if so what does it do? .

It is a shadow not an O ring.

Nice work.

Catshooter
12-21-2009, 09:04 PM
Looks good Ric and how lucky you are that Donna allowed you to build her a deck! Aren't you glad she didn't want a 4000 square footer? :)


Conan

trk
12-21-2009, 09:20 PM
Ric -
Thanks for publishing this. I've been thinking about doing a universal neck sizer with replaceable collets. Deck looks great!

Buckshot
12-22-2009, 02:51 AM
..............Thanks guys. Doing the deck got me out of the shop and I do enjoy building stuff with wood. I was amazed at the price of redwood as that's what I decked it with. I used 2x6x8's and 10's as that seemed to allow for the least waste, plus I wanted to stagger the joints. I ended up with 8 pieces of scrap 31" long and a pile of short 3-5" pieces. Heck, that 2"x12"x12" was $35 and change, gadzooks! I walked back down and looked at a piece of Doug Fir for the facia as it was only a bit over $15. But heck, it'd look odd and I'd have to spend $15 for it anyway, so the piece of redwood at $15 more didn't seem such a whack in the wallet looking at it that way :-)
The insert sizer was just a test to see whatall was involved and I wanted to use common OD sizes of stock. The body is 7/8", the height stop is 3/4", and the insert was 5/8". The 5/8" OD for the insert should be fine for up to 45 cal rifle. I going to have to make one for my 32-40 scheutzen rifle I suppose. The next one I make will have a decapper rod.

No rubber O ring in the insert. deltaenterprizes is right, it's just a darkish reflection on the rounded leade. The insert is retained from falling out the bottom via a shoulder (seen in the photo of inside the die body), and the height adjuster stops it on the topside. I'd imagine you could build one in a bit over an hour, not counting polishing, hardening and then honing the insert.

...............Buckshot

blikseme300
12-22-2009, 09:12 AM
Buckshot,

Very nice work, as usual. You are quite good at woodwork as well....

Bliksem

scrapcan
12-22-2009, 12:24 PM
I can see a concrete sidewak and a flower bed in you future to get you out of the shop.

Nice work on deck and reloading tools.

As for working for relatives ,you are lucky if you get paid in food. I sometimes get a thank you.