need some medium loads for win 308

[iron mule]

ok fellas christmas is only a couple weeks away and the burro is getting a new win 308 so i need to get some loads loaded for him // little back ground on him he is 12 been shooting in cowboy since he was 6 med ium recoil is no problem for him// i have the moulds and al the other stuff but i'm not too up to date on smokless loads been loading the black for years he and i both shoot it in cowboy // so asking you all here to give me some good light to medium loads for him to get started with these will not be for hunting just pratice /// little more info on him he can handle shooting my win 1885 high wall 38-55 with black powder loads/// thanks in advance and ish all here a merry christmas
mule

[longbow]

I found about 18 to 20 grs. or IMR4227 behind the Lyman 31141 (170 gr.) to be accurate and light recoil.

Don't know if you would call that a light or medium load but it shoots well for me.

Longbow

[NickSS]

I have been shooting 165 gr boolits with 10 gr of Unique for a nice easy kicking target load for years. My mold is an old lyman but I do not remember the number but it looks a lot like an M2 ball slug. It will print nice sub 2 inch groups all day at 100 yards with my H&R handy rifle.

[iron mule]

thanks longbow and nickss that was what i was looking for just something to get him started with an easy load for him to begin with so he will not develop any bad habits and it would not make him worry about being jolted too bad // merry christmas to you and next year i'll show all of you the dear he is allready planning on takeing with the rifle he does not know he is getting yet // he starts shooting small bore with the 4h marksman ship program in january i hope he does good with them // well ramblin some just want to whish all here a very good new year
mule

[Tim357]

Get ahold of a Lee reloading manual. There is a damfine chapter on reduced loads for smokeless powder. I've used the formulae, and it works well.
Good shooting,
Tim sends

[Jeffery8mm]

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Jeff

[Rocky Raab]

The 10 Unique load is a very good one. A bit warmer is Ed Harris's THE Load of 13 RedDot.

For rifle powders, any book Start load will do fine, or use that Lee formula mentioned.

[Mk42gunner]

How heavy is the rifle he is getting? There is a big difference in percieved recoil between say a Remington Model 7 and a Model 700 Varmint.

I recommend reading Ed Harris' article on Cast bullet loads in military rifles http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=13425.

For light loads I am loading a 314-120, (think 311008), with 6 grains of W231. Stepping it up a few notches I load Lee's 312-185 sized either .311" or .313" with 16 grains of 2400.

Neither load has much recoil, but I am shooting a 98 Mauser with a Parker Hale barrel, gun weight is 11 pounds.

Hope this helps,

Robert