A 360 grain .461 .45 Group Buy Starts Here!

[Catshooter]

This boolit is based on the discussion in Grumble's thread, a 350 to 360 grain .45 cal slug cut in a six cavity Lee for a proposed .461 diameter. This should fit all .45-70's and can be sized down for .45 Colt/.454 Casull etc. Plain base. Lube grooves for smokeless or Black powder. Meplat sized to still have one and yet feed through repeaters.

I just hold this buy open until we get 25, then issue a last call thread, wait two weeks for straglers, then order up.

Price is $58 total.

The same rules apply here as I posted in the .45 Colt Keith GB.

Please PM me for address to mail your check to.

Please tell me which boolit you want as I am honchoing more that one group buy at a time.

45 .21, post your drawing here!

First check arrived today, 5/18.


50023-2441
32127

Got some more in today (5/22)

92374
37179
43545
29439 (x2)


Cat

[45 2.1]

Something to look at:

[Buckshot]

................I'm in. PM coming your way.

................Buckshot

[libbyman]

Catshooter,
Check will be in the mail tomorrow, 5-15-06.
libbyman

[Cayoot]

What does it look like?

[45 2.1]

The image is attached and showed when I put it up, but doesn't now???? Here it is again.

[Johnch]

PM me a address .
I guess another mold check will not break me :) :)

BTW the image is showing up in both posts now .
Earlyer , before you reposted it ,it didn't



Johnch

[Cayoot]

Thanks 45 2.1, that is a real beauty!

[Bodydoc447]

Catshooter,

Check is going out this morning. Another month on Ramen.

Thanks,

Doc

[Catshooter]

Ahh, the sacrifices we make!

[MGySgt]

PM Sent - Looks like a real good Plinker for the Marlin Guide Gun, I have a heavy 450GC and I am the group buy for the 350GC.

But this one and 2400/dacron filler should be a real good 1200 FPS plinker!

[TCLouis]

Yeah sure, it really is,
Left downtown BNA at noon today!

[MGySgt]

Check will go out today.

Thanks again for doing this one!

Drew

[Catshooter]

Well, let's see if I can do a summary list of checks rec'd.


23882
29439 x 2
37179
32127
43445
43545
59923-2441
92374
10312
83706-4353
57317-0346


Boy, that's not as easy as it looks. There must be an easier way . . . .

Anyway, there you go.


Cat

[libbyman]

Catshooter
I think that 50023 zip should be 59923 zip.
Would you check , please?

libbyman @ 59923.

[hiram]

Cat-
PM me your address so I can be in.

Thanks

[Catshooter]

You are quite right, libbyman, thanks for catching that.


Cat

[hiram]

check sent

Is this design based on a previous successful design or a design of favorable accuracy?

[Buckshot]

check sent

Is this design based on a previous successful design or a design of favorable accuracy?

..................Naw, this is just a little wimp 45 cal rifle boolit we can get into a Lee 6 cavity set of blocks:bigsmyl2: You can make a bunch of'em like right now.

I also think a secondary reason is (as mentioned in the original post) so some of these goombah 45 cal peestol shoosters may further abuse themselves and excite and delight onlookers at the range. Of course I could be wrong about that[smilie=w:

It'd actually be a very nice boolit for those who'd like to stuff a bit more IMR3031 or 4064 under the slug in their Marlin 95's. It's kind of in the yeoman weight range for the 45-70. If the 405 is to the 45-70 what the 150gr is to the 30-06, then this one would be like a 130gr.

Heck I'm in already. Cast 6 at a time and it's a good looking slug to boot.

..................Buckshot

[Catshooter]

Plus, it'll work with black powder shooters too.

As soon as I saw 45 2.1's design I knew I had to have one, and since no one was gonna honcho it I am.

This site is gonna be the finacial ruin of me yet.


Cat

[Buckshot]

Plus, it'll work with black powder shooters too.

As soon as I saw 45 2.1's design I knew I had to have one, and since no one was gonna honcho it I am.

This site is gonna be the finacial ruin of me yet.


Cat

...............And we're all proud to be there and help!

...............Buckshot

[Catshooter]

Yes Buckshot, you've done your share to help!:-D :drinks: :Fire: :mrgreen:

[gregg]

Check going out Tue May 30

[Four Fingers of Death]

I'd like to get one of those moulds I will send you a PM. Mick.

[Catshooter]

Here's the current total checks received to date.

23882
29439 x 2
37179
32127
43445
43545
59923-2441
92374
10312
83706-4353
57317-0346
59932
P3L 1H4


Cat

[SharpsShooter]

PM sent your way Catshooter. I gotta have one of these.

[tall grass]

Catshooter

I sent you a PM. I want to get in on this mold deal too. Fat 45 calibers are at a premium, should be a great shooter in the Marlin 1895ss. (I'm in the camp that doesn't need the beating that the 45-70 gives you when loading higher velocities.)

again Thank You for honchoing this deal

Jim

[borderman]

Money order is on the way - zip code 47401.

Many thanks for your efforts.

[LIMPINGJ]

Getting payment in the mail this weekend.
Jim

[Catshooter]

The latest and greatest list:
23882
29439 x 2
37179
32127
43445
43545
59923-2441
92374
10312
83706-4353
57317-0346
59932
P3L 1H4
47401-8644
75440


Cat

[Catshooter]

Gentlemen,

We now have funds for 18 moulds. This buy has been open for about six weeks. I haven't received any $ for about two weeks.

Do you want to continue to wait, hold the buy open? Or do you want to split the $100 set up fee between the 17 of us. That would be an additional $6 for each of us.

I bow to your will.

Cat

[SharpsShooter]

Cat,

I have full intentions of sending the Money Order. I just got busy and in got put on the back burner. I will send it out in the morning, so wait for me if you can

[Catshooter]

Sharp,

That is no problem at all.

That will bump us up one more.

Do we continue to wait or go after SS's money gets to me?

[MGySgt]

Gentlemen,


Do you want to continue to wait, hold the buy open? Or do you want to split the $100 set up fee between the 17 of us. That would be an additional $6 for each of us.


Cat

Just let me know either way is fine by me.

Drew

[45 2.1]

Wait and contact the Cowboy boards. This should go a lot higher in numbers.

[Catshooter]

Link me up, dude.

Or, if you're allready registered at some you can post it up to them. I'm not on any cowboy boards.

[TCLouis]

Stir the pot in every other board we have members visiting.
Surely we can make up the difference, if not, I guess "we" could cough up a few bucks extra.

[hpdrifter]

Suppose i'll go ahead and ante up. Been putting it off until last call to preserve funds. Youse guys are just killing me. I think I have your address Catshooter. If I don't, I'll pm you soon.

[waksupi]

Two weeks with no more money in?

Time to ****, or get off the pot, boys.

Let's run it. I'll kick in extra bucks for the set up share.

[SharpsShooter]

Cat,

The checks in the mail as of this AM.

SS

[gregg]

Well we found two more in the dust. I say wait for the Cowboy boards and I will
run it to levergunner & sixgunner. I would gladly pay the six to get it rolling.
Not if I would know one if i saw one . But she looks like a good one to me.

[Bodydoc447]

I'll gladly pay the extra few $$, but if it's okay with everyone else, let her run a couple more weeks to catch the straglers or folks on other forums with a last call. There are a whole bunch of group buys going on right now.

Doc

[Catshooter]

Sounds to me like the majority want to wait it out a bit.

That's fine with me, I just wanted to keep everyone informed.

We're getting closer, too.


Cat

[hpdrifter]

CS, sent check to you Saturday afternoon, prolly won't be postmarked before Monday tho, twas late Saturday.

[Catshooter]

Here's the latest.

23882
29439 x 2
37179
32127
43445
43545
59923-2441
92374
10312
83706-4353
57317-0346
24916
87821-9701
10009


Cat

[Catshooter]

We are now at sixteen. We're getting there!


Cat

[borderman]

The list on post #45 seems to have lost 4 zip codes that were present on post #30, including mine (47401-8644). Looks like the last 4 have been dropped.

[Catshooter]

Well here is the actual full list as taken from the notes you guys have sent me with you checks.

28601
23882
29439 X2
P3L1H4
75440
47401-8644
57317
59923-2421
92374
43445
10312
59932
87821
37179
32127
83706
24916
10009-7358
75144
48879

That should be all, plus one for me, for a total of 22.

Thanks Borderman for catching the four I dropped.

Cat

[waksupi]

Considering Lee's recently re-proven inability to make a mold up to specs, do you suppose it would be a good idea to spec the diameter up to .464, to be sure we get a bullet that is within thier tolerences? And our acceptance?

[MGySgt]

Hey Cat - some where along the line I must have moved Zip Codes, but I didn't think so.

23883 - should be 23882.

Drew

[45 2.1]

Considering Lee's recently re-proven inability to make a mold up to specs, do you suppose it would be a good idea to spec the diameter up to .464, to be sure we get a bullet that is within thier tolerences? And our acceptance?

Ric-
From the GBs i've been involved with, i've kept track of the actual versus spec'd diameters. Usually LEE shortchanges us about 0.0008" to about 0.0015" in diameter. If we want a full 0.461", we should spec at 0.462" to 0.463". All 4570 chambers i've tested will take a loaded 0.462" boolit, but only a couple would take the 0.463". The bands are thinner on this boolit, so 0.463" would be ok sized down to 0.458" or so. Pistol users would suffer somewhat.

[waksupi]

Ric-
From the GBs i've been involved with, i've kept track of the actual versus spec'd diameters. Usually LEE shortchanges us about 0.0008" to about 0.0015" in diameter. If we want a full 0.461", we should spec at 0.462" to 0.463". All 4570 chambers i've tested will take a loaded 0.462" boolit, but only a couple would take the 0.463". The bands are thinner on this boolit, so 0.463" would be ok sized down to 0.458" or so. Pistol users would suffer somewhat.

You certainly know more about the design aspect than I do. I just want to make sure we get something usable!

[AFRecruiter]

Cout me in for one as well...PM sent..Thanks Catshooter!!

[hiram]

I would like to keep the mold as original numbers show.

[Catshooter]

We will hiram.

[dfreeman]

Where is the address to send the check?

[PatMarlin]

I wouldn't mind owning this mold but the LEE 340gr shoots so good outta my 1895, why would I consider this one cept for the 6 hole convenience?

Any thoughts on this?

[SharpsShooter]

I wouldn't mind owning this mold but the LEE 340gr shoots so good outta my 1895, why would I consider this one cept for the 6 hole convenience?

Any thoughts on this?

Pat

You are being rhetorical.:-D The choice of 6 vs. 1 is pretty obvious and besides...what have you given yourself lately?;-)



SS

[PatMarlin]

That's the problem SS... I've givin myself way to much gunstuff lately, and the bank account has already givin out.. :mrgreen:

The faucet runs real slow this time of year.. :roll: :mrgreen: :drinks:

[SharpsShooter]

That's the problem SS... I've givin myself way to much gunstuff lately, and the bank account has already givin out.. :mrgreen:

The faucet runs real slow this time of year.. :roll: :mrgreen: :drinks:


OH yeah! I TOTALLY understand.

[Buckshot]

...................Because the group buy will close and there won't be any extras and you'll kick yourself saying , "Man, I SHOULD have gotten in on that one, " is why :-).

....................Buckshot

[Catshooter]

Sounds like the voice of experience, don't it!


Cat

[PatMarlin]

I'm going to have to sign over the deed to my place to Cat pretty soon.. :mrgreen:

[Catshooter]

That'll probably work . . . but what's your neihborhood like?

[PatMarlin]

Well here's my private (BLM) range 5 minutes from the house Cat..

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=7679

Here's pics of our parcel above the house (the view)...

And this is 50 behind the house...

Will this do? ....:mrgreen:

[Catshooter]

Ya know Pat, I'm thinkin' it would.

The veiws look good, but what state are we talkin' about? I do hate them commie states.:drinks:

Which mould do ya want in trade?[smilie=1:


Cat

[PatMarlin]

Why it's PRC California Cat!... Nothin' finer.. :mrgreen:

I figure it should be good for the 45 Keith, at least. But I was hopin' for the .358 AND the .461 .45. ....:bigsmyl2:

[Catshooter]

Pat,

We were go to go until you said PRC. I'd've gone all three if'n it was Montana or sumpin. Where's the little frown smiliey thingy?

[PatMarlin]

Screwed by the Golden Bear State again! ....:groner:

[Bucks Owin]

Ya know Pat, I'm thinkin' it would.

The veiws look good, but what state are we talkin' about? I do hate them commie states.:drinks:

Which mould do ya want in trade?[smilie=1:


Cat

Pat and I live in the 51st state of Jefferson......The redneck and right wing part of CA....

We're the the NORTH end of the state (NOT the "bay" BTW), a totally different California than points south, and that has been trying to break off from the rest of Kalifornia for decades. No luck yet though as WE have all the water and the rest of state needs it to survive. "Jefferson" can't outvote the state's water starved liberal whackos....

Still hoping though,

JMO,

Dennis

[PatMarlin]

Gosh Dangit Dennis I forgot all about that (how could I? :roll: )...!

Didya hear that Cat? We are not in the PRC. We ARE in the state of Jefferson as Dennis said. .....[smilie=w:

[PatMarlin]

Here you can read all about it..

http://www.jeffersonstate.com/

We still are screwed by S. California.. :groner:

[Catshooter]

Updated list of zips.

28601
23882
29439 X2
P3L1H4
75440
47401-8644
57317
59923-2421
92374
43445
10312
59932
87821
37179
32127
83706
24916
10009-7358
75144
48879
48160

That should be all, plus one for me and Pat Marlin says he's got money soon to come my way and one for 45 .21 should put us at 24.


Cat

[Catshooter]

Just to keep everyone up to date, I received the drawing from 45 2.1 today.

I also talked to Lee about our .45 Colt GB and they said there are nine other customs to cut in front of it! I bet 7 or 8 of those are from this board!


Cat

[SharpsShooter]

Just to keep everyone up to date, I received the drawing from 45 2.1 today.

I also talked to Lee about our .45 Colt GB and they said there are nine other customs to cut in front of it! I bet 7 or 8 of those are from this board!


Cat

I'm mailing my 8mm buy off to them in the morning, so there may be TEN in front of this one. I ain't poking fun at you..........I bought one of these too:mrgreen:

[PatMarlin]

Don't forget to times that by 3 for re-runs Cat.. :mrgreen: ...... :roll:

[SharpsShooter]

Don't forget to times that by 3 for re-cuts Cat.. :mrgreen: ...... :roll:


Lord I hope not Pat[smilie=b:

[Catshooter]

Ain't it grand? This time next year, just think of all the way cool unique moulds we'll have! I will be totally set up, and no damn Hitlery can stop me!


Cat

[SharpsShooter]

At this rate, it WILL be next year before I have that 45 Keith 6-banger. I have two hungry SAA's that are waiting for that mould. I am waiting on three Lee moulds including my own 8mm buy.


SS

[PatMarlin]

At this rate, it WILL be next year before I have that 45 Keith 6-banger. I have two hungry SAA's that are waiting for that mould. I am waiting on three Lee moulds...


SS


Me too. Cat's put me in the poor house in one swift blow. He wouldn't even take real estate as a voucher.. :mrgreen:

[DEVERS454]

Or is it all locked up now???

I didn't see what the nose length was... anyone? For 45-90, I'd like to have a noze closer to .45" or there abouts.

[Catshooter]

You can still get in Devers, but you gotta act quickly.

The nose length is just a bit over .400".

PM me for my address.

28601
23882
29439 X2
P3L1H4
75440
47401-8644
57317
59923-2421
92374
43445
10312
59932
87821
37179
32127
83706
24916
10009-7358
75144
48879
48160
16053
96041
62801
66502

Cat

[Buckshot]

...........Almost at the magical 25 I see.

..............Buckshot

[PatMarlin]

Yah, and I got one comin' too. Neener, neener.. :bigsmyl2:

[Catshooter]

Actually we're at 26.


Cat

[EDG]

Catshooter is this still open?
ireload2@yahoo.com

[PatMarlin]

That boat done left the harbor, and sailed to LEE.. :Fire:

[MGySgt]

This one has been going on for so ling I plum forgot about it until the Accountant (The Wife that is) asked me about it.

Too many going on for me to keep up!

Drew

[SharpsShooter]

This one has been going on for so ling I plum forgot about it until the Accountant (The Wife that is) asked me about it.

Too many going on for me to keep up!

Drew

I know what you mean sir! Maybe we will get lucky and see this one before winter sets in.

SS

[Catshooter]

No sign of 'em yet kids, but I am sort of expectin' 'em in this month.


Cat