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semtav
11-26-2009, 02:06 PM
As soon as I get my leading problem cured I need to figure out if a filler is needed with 20 gr 4227 in a 40-65. anyone have experience with that combination?
thanks
Buckshot
11-29-2009, 04:09 AM
24.0 grs IMR4227 thrown from measure, Pedersoli RB 34" bbl tang rear and insert front sight, RCBS 40-300 FNPB 16 BHN sized .410" visually inspected, as cast 309 grs, Javalina lube, cardwad and dacron, 1600 fps 26ES. Five rounds at 100 yards had 4 @ 0.75" and 5 @ 1.35".

.............Buckshot
Tom Myers
11-29-2009, 09:08 AM
Buckshot,

Is the cardwad between the powder and the dacron or between the dacron and the bullet?


24.0 grs IMR4227 thrown from measure, Pedersoli RB 34" bbl tang rear and insert front sight, RCBS 40-300 FNPB 16 BHN sized .410" visually inspected, as cast 309 grs, Javalina lube, cardwad and dacron, 1600 fps 26ES. Five rounds at 100 yards had 4 @ 0.75" and 5 @ 1.35".

.............Buckshot
Wayne Smith
11-29-2009, 09:38 AM
And was the flier called??
semtav
11-29-2009, 10:28 AM
Thanks Buckshot

Ditto on the cardwad question.
runfiverun
11-29-2009, 12:43 PM
dacron holds the powder in place.
and the card is to help protect the base of the boolit.
Buckshot
11-30-2009, 05:13 AM
dacron holds the powder in place.
and the card is to help protect the base of the boolit.

...........Perzactly. Dump powder, insert dacron, thumb the cardwad into the casemouth and seat boolit. No, the flier wasn't called. Simply experimental ammo. Dumping powder from a measure and not scaling boolits I will accept a flier as a fact of life, and a penalty for not spending more time with the details.

http://www.fototime.com/E3932A18D38C8CD/standard.jpg

Here's another 100 yard group of 5 rounds, with a very similar load. Only difference is no flier (it DOES happen once in awile).

..............Buckshot
semtav
12-03-2009, 01:11 AM
Thats dang good shooting buckshot, I can't even see that good, little own shoot that good.
Windy City Kid
12-03-2009, 02:03 AM
When I had a Cimarron Hi-Wall in 40-65, my best groups were with the RCBS 40-300 FNPB and SR4759. I wish I never sold it, it was a great shooter.
Buckshot
12-03-2009, 03:54 AM
Thats dang good shooting buckshot, I can't even see that good, little own shoot that good.

...........The real truth is, neither can I really:-) The rifle IS a shooter and no doubt, but please don't think that it or I always do that well. I have pleanty of other targets in my experimental load books that aren't so pretty. Not with this rifle, but I do have a couple where it's a real headache trying to figure out which shot to call a flyer!

..............Buckshot