Help--Any 452 200 grain RN

[TheBeej]

I am looking to getting into casting. I have shot semi wad cutters for a while, but I like the feed of a round nose better. My preference is a 200 grain bullet, but I can't find any molds for a 200 grain round nosed .45 ACP (452 diameter) bullet. I would appreciate any help the more experienced members have.

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[captaint]

Welcome Beej - If you've been lurking a while you already may know there's a wealth of knowledge here. You're right about the RN 45's. Most any I've seen are 230 gr roundnose. What sort of problem are you having with the SWC's feeding?? I have 2 1911's and they both eat SWC's all day. Enjoy Mike

[markinalpine]

My 1911A1 clone eats Lee 452-200 RFs like jelly beans. :bigsmyl2:

Mark :coffeecom

[RobS]

Well not a total round nose design but Lee makes the 452-200-RF. This round nose flat point feeds in every 45 auto I've reloaded for and is quite accurate for the 45 acp and 45 colts. I usually use a mid powder burner like unique or universal to run this bullet as the accuracy is better than the quicker powders. This bullet works very well for me at around 700 to 900 maybe 950 fps. Also, you can't beat a 6 cavity mold for right at $50 handles included.

[walltube]

Lee 452-200-RF 6 cav., 5.5 gr. WW231.

Two different .45 ACP Kimbers, one Springfield and an EAA Witness digest this Lee boolit with nary a problem.

I load 'em, the 'boys' shoot 'em.

[870TC]

Magma has a 200 gr. Round nose flat point that I works well in 1911's

[Le Loup Solitaire]

All of the current mold manufacturers make a RN that works well in the 45 with a long list of various powders possible. A lot of data is available in all the major loading manuals or handbooks, I have 2 molds; one is the H&G #34 @ 230 Gr. and the other is the RCBS 230 grain. They are vitually identical. I use 4.0 -4,1 grains of Red Dot. It burns clean, is a moderate load, feeds reliably and gives accurate grouping out of 4 different pistols/revolvers. Just for the record there should not be a problem with using SWC bullets in semi-autos. LLS

[snowwolfe]

Are you folks casting these .45s with wheelweights? Any problems with the boolits deforming as they feed up the ramp on the barrel?

[fredj338]

Are you folks casting these .45s with wheelweights? Any problems with the boolits deforming as they feed up the ramp on the barrel?
Saeco makes one as does Magma. The Lee has a very large FP & can cause feeding issues in some pistols. The 200grRNFP sold by many commercial casters for the 45colt works great in the 45acp as well.
http://www.redding-reloading.com/PDFfiles/bulletchart.pdf
http://www.magmaengineering.com/

[hammerhead357]

I think that Ballisti-cast sells a #1119 that is a short #34. I hope this is the correct number but any way the nose is the same as the 34 but the base is shorter. This has fed in any auto that I have tried it in. I just haven't cast any for a long time so I am not sure of the number. If you go to Tom's web page for H & G moulds you should be able to find it and then add 6 to the H & G number to find the Ballisti-Cast number. They are not cheap but well worth the money as they will last for years......Wes

[ReloaderFred]

The Magma 200 grain RNFP is an excellent bullet for the .45 acp, as well as light loads in the .45 Colt. I have the mold and really like it.

Hope this helps.

Fred

[jsizemore]

Ballisti-cast. Page 6 of Bullet Designs. #1119 with Lino. With WW should be slightly more then 200 grains.

My H&G #34 with the bevel base removed casts 216 grains with WW.

[stephen perry]

This is easy to cast comes in at 220 grn. Might have to buy used.

Stephen Perry
Angeles BR :brokenima

[STAR4ever]

I have a nice old Hensley & Gibbs 6 Cavity .452 Round Nose mold. This is the #34 mold. The bullets it produces are about 220g in Lyman #2 alloy, and my particular mold is the flat base variant not the bevel base which is more commonly found.

The mold casts near perfectly and the bullet has one grease grove and a shoulder just prior to the round nose. This bullet mold is no longer sold as H & G is out of business. However, in perusing the SAECO REDDING mold list, their #456 or #457 looks alot like it although the weights of those two bullets are 225g.

For pistol bullets I like to produce about 300 bullets per casting hour so a 6 banger mold is the only way to go... or use two 4 banger molds...

And since you want a Round Nose design, I suspect this bullet is not intended by you for competition target shooting. My #68 H&G Semi Wad Cutter 200g is a bit more accurate but I have done alot more load development with that particular bullet.

Hope this helps.

[jsizemore]

I believe I read somewhere that Ballisti-cast bought the tooling and the rights to produce H&G's molds. They had to change the original mold number. An H&G #68 is a Ballisti-cast #668.

[Texasflyboy]

I think that Ballisti-cast sells a #1119 that is a short #34. I hope this is the correct number but any way the nose is the same as the 34 but the base is shorter. This has fed in any auto that I have tried it in. I just haven't cast any for a long time so I am not sure of the number. If you go to Tom's web page for H & G moulds you should be able to find it and then add 6 to the H & G number to find the Ballisti-Cast number. They are not cheap but well worth the money as they will last for years......Wes

Add 600 to the H&G number to get the corresponding Ballisticast number.

I agree, the Hensley & Gibbs #519 (Ballisticast #1119) is a 200 grain version of the military ball round (#34).

Photo:

http://hgmould.gunloads.com/molds/519.jpg

[Oldtimer]

As Stephen said. I have a Lyman 452374 220 RN. Load 4 gr. Bullseye in .45 ACP. Never had a feed problem. Shoot in 1911, and Glock 30. Use straight WW. I love it. No problem finding one at the big suppliers. Bob

[hammerhead357]

Well Ok I was sort of correct. You add 600 to the H & G number but I was thinking add 6 to the first number but that isn't correct Tom is....Wes