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Pb head
04-23-2005, 12:18 AM
By Gawd it would be nice to have the Lee .312-155gr in 6 cav configuration. I go though a bunch in 3 differant Swiss K31's and now I find it shoots very well in a 308 Win. I'm scared to try it in the 06's and 303, I have a hard time keeping the supply up with a single cavity. I'll just bet there would be others that would very much like that proven design in a 6 cavity.

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Buckshot
04-23-2005, 03:59 AM
............The things a champeen shooter in the 7.62x39 Rooski Shortski too! Why don't you be the hero and head this deal up later on this summer?

...............Buckshot

sc03a3
04-23-2005, 04:19 AM
i also use this boolit in my k-31, ,308's, 30/06, 7.62x39 and 7.62x54, works great in all of them. if we do a group buy on a 6 holer put me down for one...dick

Scrounger
04-23-2005, 06:58 AM
By Gawd it would be nice to have the Lee .312-155gr in 6 cav configuration. I go though a bunch in 3 differant Swiss K31's and now I find it shoots very well in a 308 Win. I'm scared to try it in the 06's and 303, I have a hard time keeping the supply up with a single cavity. I'll just bet there would be others that would very much like that proven design in a 6 cavity.

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Since it's not a new custom design but one of their own standard bullets, I would think they could sell a special ordered run of those at pretty much the same cost as their regular 6 cavity molds.

Maineboy
04-23-2005, 07:22 AM
I go through a lot of these 155s too. It's the best boolit I have for my K31 and it works great in my 03A3 and Krag as well. I also would be very interested in a six cavity version. I can't commit to a project now, but I might have time this fall. If there's enough interest, and no one else wants to do the legwork, I could take on the project then.

45 2.1
04-23-2005, 08:43 AM
LEE was contacted about doing their standard bullet in six cavity molds, they want custom prices for doing it! This is a very good bullet, but the RCBS 308-165-SIL shoots as well or better. Its a shame that bullet isn't scaled up to .311" body and .303" nose.

JSH
04-23-2005, 08:48 AM
Count me in on this, and I have never even tried a single one of these. I have seen enough talk on them, and with as many 30's as i am fooling with it would sure help out.

Any chance we could do some type of group buy on 6 banger handles? I could use 3-4 pairs of the things.
Jeff

castalott
04-23-2005, 02:42 PM
You guys are all plotting together to keep me broke!

Ok. Ok. I want one ( or 2) also...

If Lyman gets their act together and offers some good stuff in 4 cavity....I'll need a second job!!!!

Dale

castalott
04-23-2005, 02:44 PM
Hey, the 'handle' group but would be cool, too.

Pb head
04-23-2005, 09:10 PM
If I remember right a group buy on the handles was checked into a while back. Turns out it was just as cheap to oder off of Midsouth or Midway.

As far as heading up a buy on custom Lee 6 cavity moulds, as much as I'd like to I don't think I could handle it what with running two pistol matches a week plus one each air pistol and 22 rifle shoot a month all at my home club. That and trying to keep all my shooters and myself supplied with boolits has me busier then a one armed paper hanger. Don't know how I found time to work before I retired.

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MT Gianni
04-25-2005, 07:45 PM
If we have to pay full custom price for an existing mold how about adding a small meplat to it say .225-.245. A flat makes it easier for me to find a top punch and it still should feed from the autos. Gianni.

RayinNH
04-25-2005, 09:10 PM
MT Gianni, Lyman #467 top punch works well with this boolit..Ray

Cayoot
04-25-2005, 09:26 PM
Ohhh Boy! Oh Boy! I want one of these! I'm currently the ONLY caster/Reloader for our small 7.5 X55 club. There are only 4 of us in it...but that still keeps me busy! A 6 holer would be great!

Count me in!

Mel-4857
04-26-2005, 04:01 PM
I'm in for one. Works great in my 1911 Swiss and also in my Nagants. Mel

BruceB
04-26-2005, 04:59 PM
Yeahyeah..whatthehell....count me in on the 6-cav 30-155 too!

C1PNR
04-26-2005, 11:20 PM
Are we going to do this right away? I want one of these, too, but am going out of town for a couple of weeks and not sure if I'll have Internet access.

Buckshot
04-27-2005, 03:03 AM
Are we going to do this right away? I want one of these, too, but am going out of town for a couple of weeks and not sure if I'll have Internet access.

They'd better NOT be doing this right away[smilie=b: I can't afford to get in on the 358-180 I REALLY wanted to, and I'd have liked to have also gotten the 45 Colt boolit. But, no! These things are coming along as crowded together as sardines. [smilie=l:

Hopefully since no one has stepped up to manage it, it'll go another couple weeks? I hope so anyway!

.............Buckshot

trooperdan
04-29-2005, 04:26 PM
Well, if we are just counting noses, count me in too! And no cracks that my nose is big enought to count for two, just one thank you! Maybe Lars will honcho this and see if we can get 100 orders!

Leftoverdj
04-29-2005, 04:44 PM
I'm in, and I'll run the buy if no one else wants to. Maybe talk about it a spell, open orders June 1st, and plan on placing the order July 1st?

How say you on specing this one just a hair on the fat side, say .313 nominal rather than .312?

Catshooter
04-29-2005, 04:57 PM
Leftover,

That sounds great. I would also like to go, say .313 and maybe a .304 nose? Kinda like the big Fat .30?

Also would like a small meplat.

I'm in, just let us know the ordering data and I'll send ya a check.

Thank you for steping up!

Cat

Urny
04-29-2005, 05:06 PM
Well, if first June is the beginning of ordering season, count me in too. I'm waiting on three custom's now, and had to give a couple of 'em I wanted a bye, money limitations dontcha know? But June 1st provides a useful respite, and I'll take at least one.

45 2.1
04-29-2005, 05:53 PM
0.313" or 0.314" would be fine as would a bigger meplat, say something the size of the RCBS 308-165-SIL bullet.

castalott
04-29-2005, 07:21 PM
Hi All!

Can anyone tell me the BC of this bullet with and without the proposed meplat? I doubt it would make a big difference...but I would like to know...

I would hate to trade off a reasonable long distance bullet for a lesser version...

Thanks, Dale

45 2.1
04-29-2005, 07:27 PM
LEE lists the BC of the C312-155-2R as 0.268, its tumble lube brother is at 0.276. A like bullet with a bigger meplat would be a little less.

Catshooter
04-29-2005, 07:47 PM
Man, this boolit would go great in sssoooooooo many cartridges! .308, 762x39, 762x54r...........yes!

I have a little x39 carbine that just begs for such a boolit!


Cat

C1PNR
05-01-2005, 04:12 PM
You guys are forcing me to get a 7.62 x 39!:)

My wife is going to come unglued, but that's OK, there's some Elmer's in the utility room, somewhere!;-)

I'll be back by 6/1 and will order at least one mould.

Cayoot
05-03-2005, 09:09 PM
Ok...I'm in for sure.....you guys have sure been a bad influence on me in the short time I've been hanging out here! :-?

Pb head
05-03-2005, 11:43 PM
Wow, did I start something or not!!! I think I'm getting a lot of people in trouble with their better half besides myself. My wife says If I spend anymore money on guns and related items until I get all the stuff I already got this year paid for she gonna leave me. Sure gonna miss her. HA, HA.

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Buckshot
05-21-2005, 08:08 AM
..............Wanted to bump this back up to the top and to suggest that if you are interested in this design to be sure and vote in the poll in the 'sticky' thread at the very top of the board.

.............Buckshot

C1PNR
05-26-2005, 11:42 PM
I just do not know what to suggest as to the design/changes to the mould for our order.

I have never tried any of the "stock" Lee design, and I only have two .30 mould designs casting ~150 grain boolits, 30-150 RCBS and 311 466 Lyman.

I have several .30 rifles to try it in, including some of the "fat 30" variety that could very well benefit from a slightly larger diameter boolit.

However, my primary thought as regards any change to this design is that a modest meplat would seem to be a benefit for those who may like to hunt with it.

I'll leave it at that.:???:

Cayoot
05-27-2005, 09:54 AM
However, my primary thought as regards any change to this design is that a modest meplat would seem to be a benefit for those who may like to hunt with it.

I'll leave it at that.:???:

Ahhhh....here is yet another opportunity for me to let my limitless ignorance show!

I always thought that when it comes to non-expanding boolits (like this design) that the BIGGER the meplat, the better. I understand that this can limit the accurate range of the round, but for terminal performance, I thought that a great big meplat was best.

Am I wrong?

45 2.1
05-27-2005, 11:03 AM
Ahhhh....here is yet another opportunity for me to let my limitless ignorance show!

I always thought that when it comes to non-expanding boolits (like this design) that the BIGGER the meplat, the better. I understand that this can limit the accurate range of the round, but for terminal performance, I thought that a great big meplat was best.

Am I wrong?

No, you're not wrong. What he meant was that the LEE bullet has almost no meplat. In this case a "moderate meplat" would be on the order of the RCBS 308-165-SIL or the 308-180-SP. A fat meplat would be somethging like the fat 30. I myself was hopeing for the moderate meplat also. Otherwise the bullet will act like like a solid and do very little damage to a critter.

carpetman
05-27-2005, 11:18 AM
Here we go again picking our noses. This one has almost no meplat. Wonder if it was designed by Michael Jackson after many attempts to come up with a pleasing nose?

Leftoverdj
05-27-2005, 03:41 PM
Go putting much of a meplat on it and you're taking about a different bullet, one that probably won't work through the semi-autos this bullet was designed for. You're also off into unknown territory about accuracy.

Finn45
05-27-2005, 04:28 PM
Is it this C.E.Harris design?:

http://www.leeprecision.com/graphics/bullets/c3121552.gif

If it is, keep it very close to original and organizer will need to figure out how to ship one internationally... It's easy, don't worry, hehe.

Buckshot
05-27-2005, 04:34 PM
...........There appears to be pleanty enough interest for this 6 cavity custom Lee to have legs. It has worked so well for so many that I think the poll fairly shows that the current 'known' design is what most folks want:

Current design, no changes (14) 46.67%
Current design, moderate meplat [8] 26.67%
Current design, .314" x .304" (1) 3.33%
Current but .314"x.304" + meplat (7)

Also consider that besides the 14 wanting it as is, 8 want is as is, with the exception of a moderate meplat. As all who've used the mould know, it's a spitzer without a sign of a flat. I am thinking that those who would like to use this slug for hunting purposes could readily put a flat on it.

After all, in that scenario you won't be shooting a bunch of'em, and most likely relatively few would be required in load development. There are several ways to put a FN on a slug but the simplist requires only a vise, a piece of scrap steel of 1/8 to 1/4" thick and a file.

Say your piece of scrap steel is 1" wide (width isn't critical except to be wider then your file). Determine how wide a flat you want and drill a hole that size in the steel, in the middle. Taper the underside of the hole to approximate the radius of the ogive. You don't HAVE to taper the hole, it's just a nice touch. Set your loaded cartridge on blocking, (to raise the boolit midway of the jaw) on the arm of the vise and set the hole of your guide (steel scrap) down over the boolit's nose. Close the visejaws and file the nose flat. I suspect that 2 a minute wouldn't be a big deal to accomplish. Probably more time would be spent carding the lead out of the file teeth then anything else :-)

In this way the 14 who want it as is are satisfied and the 8 wanting a meplat can have it. Nothing much to be done about having a fat one, but the initial attraction WAS to have it as we're used to having it. If everyone who voted for the as is design and with a meplat went for it that's 22 orders right now.

.............Buckshot

45 2.1
05-27-2005, 05:13 PM
All that you really need to do is shorten up the nose a little to get a meplat with no change to anything that contacts the bore. I've shot alot of RCBS 308-165-SIL in the SKS. It was a little to small in diameter and a little to long in length, but it worked each and every time. If I take out a rifle, I want to be able to hunt or plink as opportunities arise, not having to switch loads.

Dutch4122
05-27-2005, 10:30 PM
If we're gonna go through with this in a 6 cavity as originally designed (.312" as cast from wheelweights, right?) then I'll go for two of these when it comes time to send the check.

:)

Pb head
05-28-2005, 12:10 AM
I feel don't fix what ain't broke. Lee's design works really well for me , I just want to produce them faster.

Pb head

fiberoptik
05-30-2005, 11:21 PM
Hello! I'm the new guy here. Count me in as well. Well how much is it we're looking at here? The only moulds I have are round ball for .32 & .50, a maxi & a real 320grain mould. I have a K31, a Krag sporter, an old Win 94, an Ishapore Enfield in .308, and a 96 Swede & 7x57 Argentine mauser. I've got the Lee 10lb pot, and I'm ready to use it. I've been collecting the dies as I go, now just need the press/sizer/brass tools & I'll be ready!
I'm a disabled vet, pulled 7 yrs in the Marine Corps. I missed the action, but it still was a high price. Now I'm working on a degree & my gun collection. On the side, I set up small businesses for success. I hope to make my rifles sing with my own lead.

Cayoot
05-31-2005, 12:09 AM
Boy...it's been so long since we started this idea that I can't remember who is running this show. Anybody know who I should send my check to?

I really don't want to miss out on this! :grin:

fiberoptik
05-31-2005, 11:37 PM
Oh, almost forgot, (did forget) I also have a universal .30 carbine, so that makes 5 .30 cal's to feed sooner or later.

Buckshot
06-01-2005, 12:55 AM
...........Fiberoptik, welcome to the board. It does sound like it's about time to start feeding those critters! This is a great boolit. I use it sized to .309" for a 7.62x39 built on a small ring Mauser.

............Buckshot