tackstrp
10-02-2009, 10:54 PM
At 10:26 AM 10/2/2009, you wrote:
> I read on the Boolits fourm that cast bullets other than tumble lube, do just as well when sized and coated with Lee Tumble lube stuff.
>
> Is that true?
>
4:46 Pm from Pat at info leeprecision . com
It is true - I have used tumble lube on bullets with all types of lube grooves with good results. Just don't try to fill the grooves with lube as you would with more traditional bullet lubricants. This will be too much, and will result in a sticky mess in your bullet seating die. Just a light even coat is necessary for most applications.
From Me ... my comments on the above.
So if I understand the answer correctly, the Lee method of lubing is not to fill the grooves on a bullet but to lubicate the parts that will be in contact with the barrel. Consequentally those that lightly lube with just about anything to size a bullets then do the Lee Alox , swirl, swill,and dry are ahead and not using to much Lee Alox. That being the case should be able to pust any bullet thru the proper sizeing die. Certian limitations for High speed bullets of course.
Interesting.
This one line in the follow instructions I found the most informative. "Lee recommends bullets be relubed after sizing to be sure the sized portion is coated with Alox. "
This for me, at least brings together all of the things I have been reading.
Here are the instrucions per LEE precision
Technical Information
Directions for Use:
Lubricating Bullets:
Place bullets in provided red plastic container and drop in the included Lee Liquid Alox onto the bullets.
Gently shake the bullets in an orbital motion to coat the bullets. If they do not coat completely, add a little more lube.
Spread the bullets onto waxed paper and let dry overnight.
Load at least one bullet into a case and check to be sure it easily chambers in the gun. If it fits tightly, you must resize the bullet before loading.
Sizing Bullets:
Screw the sizing die into any standard reloading press. Exact depth is not important.
Install the bullet punch into the ram. This fits all rams that use standard shellholders.
Place the red plastic container with the lubed bullets inside on top of the sizing die.
Place bullet on the punch and push the bullet through the die.
When 3/4 of the bullets have been loaded, lift the red plastic container off the die. Invert the holder before opening.
For rifle and hot pistol loads, it is best to relube the bullets to ensure the sized portion is recoated.
NOTES:
Lee recommends bullets be relubed after sizing to be sure the sized portion is coated with Alox.
All lead bullets must be lubricated, but it is not absolutely necessary to size all case bullets. Bullets must be sized if they are so large that they expand the case too much to freely enter the gun's chamber. Sizing sometimes helps accuracy by making the bullet uniform in diameter. This ensures uniform start pressure and better accuracy. Gas checks can be installed with this tool. Simply place the gas check on the base of the bullet before sizing.
> I read on the Boolits fourm that cast bullets other than tumble lube, do just as well when sized and coated with Lee Tumble lube stuff.
>
> Is that true?
>
4:46 Pm from Pat at info leeprecision . com
It is true - I have used tumble lube on bullets with all types of lube grooves with good results. Just don't try to fill the grooves with lube as you would with more traditional bullet lubricants. This will be too much, and will result in a sticky mess in your bullet seating die. Just a light even coat is necessary for most applications.
From Me ... my comments on the above.
So if I understand the answer correctly, the Lee method of lubing is not to fill the grooves on a bullet but to lubicate the parts that will be in contact with the barrel. Consequentally those that lightly lube with just about anything to size a bullets then do the Lee Alox , swirl, swill,and dry are ahead and not using to much Lee Alox. That being the case should be able to pust any bullet thru the proper sizeing die. Certian limitations for High speed bullets of course.
Interesting.
This one line in the follow instructions I found the most informative. "Lee recommends bullets be relubed after sizing to be sure the sized portion is coated with Alox. "
This for me, at least brings together all of the things I have been reading.
Here are the instrucions per LEE precision
Technical Information
Directions for Use:
Lubricating Bullets:
Place bullets in provided red plastic container and drop in the included Lee Liquid Alox onto the bullets.
Gently shake the bullets in an orbital motion to coat the bullets. If they do not coat completely, add a little more lube.
Spread the bullets onto waxed paper and let dry overnight.
Load at least one bullet into a case and check to be sure it easily chambers in the gun. If it fits tightly, you must resize the bullet before loading.
Sizing Bullets:
Screw the sizing die into any standard reloading press. Exact depth is not important.
Install the bullet punch into the ram. This fits all rams that use standard shellholders.
Place the red plastic container with the lubed bullets inside on top of the sizing die.
Place bullet on the punch and push the bullet through the die.
When 3/4 of the bullets have been loaded, lift the red plastic container off the die. Invert the holder before opening.
For rifle and hot pistol loads, it is best to relube the bullets to ensure the sized portion is recoated.
NOTES:
Lee recommends bullets be relubed after sizing to be sure the sized portion is coated with Alox.
All lead bullets must be lubricated, but it is not absolutely necessary to size all case bullets. Bullets must be sized if they are so large that they expand the case too much to freely enter the gun's chamber. Sizing sometimes helps accuracy by making the bullet uniform in diameter. This ensures uniform start pressure and better accuracy. Gas checks can be installed with this tool. Simply place the gas check on the base of the bullet before sizing.