Interest in TLC460-425-RF

[Ranch Dog]

Images of the TLC460-425-RF
http://home.awesomenet.net/~ranch-dog/Casting/TLC460425RF/TLC-460-425-RF_Approval.jpg
Drawing

http://home.awesomenet.net/~ranch-dog/Casting/TLC460425RF/TLC460_Loaded.jpg
Bullet and loaded ammuntion for the 450 Marlin. Nose length and crimp groove will not change. Cartridge OAL for the 45-70 is 2.55" and 2.495" for the 450 Marlin.

Is there an interest in a group buy for this mold? Would your interest be in a 2 or 6 cavity mold?

[45 2.1]

Michael-
Change the lube groove configuration (something like in the other thread) and i would be interested in a six cavity. I note that most drawings you put up are LEEs, do you need some drafting help?

[Dr. A]

I'd buy a couple of 2 holers or a 6 holer. Not really that picky.

[Hackleback]

Yes, as well.

[cast-n-blast]

2 or 6 holer for me as well

[gutshot_again]

I would order a two cavity.

[Johnch]

I would take a 2 or 6 holer .

Johnch

[Antietamgw]

I'd take one of either, prefer a 2 cavity.

[35remington]

I would be in for a two cavity. I think that this is an ideal bullet for my .45-70 Marlin.

[LIMPINGJ]

I would like to go with a 6 hole.
Jim

[Mojo^]

I'd be in for a two cavity mold.

[Ranch Dog]

Keep your interest up. I will get to this as soon as the 2 and 6 cavity buys for the 350-grain bullet close on May 15.

[Ranch Dog]

Michael-
Change the lube groove configuration (something like in the other thread) and i would be interested in a six cavity. I note that most drawings you put up are LEEs, do you need some drafting help?


"YES"... I'm finally able to get back to this post. A group buy (the 350-grain bullet) sure generates a lot of emails and PMs... two buys at once (2 & 6-cavity) puts the mail over the edge!

I've been trying to self-learn CAD, boolit design is about the only application I have a use of the tool. I came up with a spreadsheet based on Lee's Mold Design Assitance Worksheet and it hits the specs right on the money. It allows you the ability to change any of the dimension or characteristics and it forecasts a number of items.

I would like to forward you the sheet for this mold so that you could change the lube grooves per your suggestion on another post. I'm still looking for that thread... I should have bookmarked it.

I do think the final drawing for the buy should be the Lee drawing as that is what everything will be based on.

[Last Spike]

I'd be interested in 2 of the 2 cavity molds.

[Ranch Dog]

I've asked 45 2.1 to work on this boolit using his Modified Micro-Band vs. the original. This would open this design to those that wish to use a conventional lube/sizer and I see this as being transparent to the caster/shooter. Here are some details of the two but they might change based on his final drawing. The target dimensions of the bullet will remain the same.

[45 2.1]

RD-
I've used your TL dimensions and modified mine to give the same lube capacity. Here is what your 350 looks like with the changes.

[zuke]

I'm in for a 6 cavity!

[Ranch Dog]

It looks good! Is length, both nose and total, still the same? What about volume for the weight calculations?

It looks real good! I appreciate your work!

[45 2.1]

It looks good! Is length, both nose and total, still the same? What about volume for the weight calculations?

It looks real good! I appreciate your work!

Length is the same, nose might be slightly shorter (maybe a few thousandths), nose to crimp groove, weight will change more from alloy composition than from slight volume change here. With lube capacity being the same, little else will change.

[Ranch Dog]

45 2.1... I looked here before my email and thanks for the message. The drawing looks really good! Are we looking at the TLC460-350-RF (350-grain) boolit... vs. the TLC460-425-RF (the bullet in the title of this thread). Don't want to get the changes mixed up.

[45 2.1]

Yes it is the 350. Below are the 350 & the 425 as close to your specs as possible. The previous 350 had a few modifications. See which one you like.

[Ranch Dog]

I like them both!! The first drawing of the "350" had 6 bands vs. the 5 of this drawing. What changes were made to the spacing?

[45 2.1]

I like them both!! The first drawing of the "350" had 6 bands vs. the 5 of this drawing. What changes were made to the spacing?

The first 350 had the gas check shank, the rear band and the nose shortened slightly to get that extra groove in. The groove width and band spacing are the same on both 350s.

[Ranch Dog]

Thanks... looks real good.

[45 2.1]

Here is the 425 gr. boolit with modified tumble lube grooves.

[LIMPINGJ]

Will the length of this bullet fit the Lee 6 cavity blocks? I sure am hoping for the 6 hole version.
Jim

[Ranch Dog]

Will the length of this bullet fit the Lee 6 cavity blocks? I sure am hoping for the 6 hole version.
Jim

Good question... This is from the Lee FAQ's:

Maximum bullet mold dimensions for standard mold blocks; (all dimensions in inches) single cavity, .580 dia. 1.250 length; double cavity, .685* dia. .900 length; six cavity, .520 dia. 1.000 length; *for single cavity mold in double cavity blocks, like our slug mold. For two cavities in the double cavity blocks, max. diameter is .600 inch

The TLC460-425-RF is 1.04" in length. Lee made double cavity molds for me in the first order, note the length limit for those (.9"). I think they can do it but will check with Lee tomorrow.

[45 2.1]

1.04" is really no problem.

[Ranch Dog]

That's what I think 45. I didn't get a call into Lee today... to busy on the Rancho. Here is a prime candidate for a TLC460-460-RF penetration test!

This old boy is visiting one of my protein feeders about every two hours from dusk to dawn. He bumps the legs which causes the feed to fall out. The feeder has protein pellets and peas in it.

[lar45]

I'll take either a 2 or 6 cavity mold, but would prefer the 6. If I don't send money when it's money time, will someone give me a reminder?
Thanks

[drinks]

Looks good, but I will only go for a 2 cavity.
The one Lee 6 hole I have is for sale, I just do not like more than 2 hole molds.
When would a 2 hole .433+, 300gr + - gas check be on the table?
That and a 250gr, same size, are my missing links.
Don

[dragonrider]

I would be in for a 6 holer.

[rvpilot76]

I like that 425 grainer! When do we start up the votes for a 6-hole with a gas check?

Kevin

[rvpilot76]

Come to think of it, I like the 350 grainer as well!

Kevin

[Ranch Dog]

rvpilot76...

With a RD GB we won't need to vote on the 2 vs. 6, I will run a group buy on both as soon as the buy closes on the 350-grain boolit. I see the need for both depending on a guys shooting and casting needs. I prefer the 2-cavity and won't need to order any as I already have 4 molds in that design. I might order a 6-cavity just to have it but with a severed/repaired rotator cuff on my casting sholder, casting that big of boolit starts to wear pretty quick with a 1/3# per throw!

[drinks]

Rd;
My problem, too, left shoulder had a complete rebuild, right has bad arthritis and a torn bicep, 6 holers are just painful to use.
A 240-260gr, ctl, rf in .433+ would be nice, too.
My Handi barrel is typical Marlin, micro groove and .431" groove.
Requires a hard , that is, water cooled gas check to keep from keyholing at anything past 25yds.
I just reamed it out to .445SM, should get to shoot it nextweek and see how it does at 1600-2000fps.
Don

[6pt-sika]

rvpilot76...

With a RD GB we won't need to vote on the 2 vs. 6, I will run a group buy on both as soon as the buy closes on the 350-grain boolit. I see the need for both depending on a guys shooting and casting needs. I prefer the 2-cavity and won't need to order any as I already have 4 molds in that design. I might order a 6-cavity just to have it but with a severed/repaired rotator cuff on my casting sholder, casting that big of boolit starts to wear pretty quick with a 1/3# per throw!



I do not have any bodily repairs , but the two holers seem to me to be easier to work with then the 6 holers [smilie=1:

[Ranch Dog]

Ok... you asked for it...
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=6991