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Dutchman
09-30-2009, 06:57 PM
The Elit kornring (front sight) are expensive. And the unique inserts are hard to find and to my eye rather coarse. The Elit kornring itself is a good sight, the best IMO.

http://images44.fotki.com/v1461/photos/4/28344/7364172/ts08-vi.jpg

For rifles that have a threaded muzzle, the m/96b, there's an alternative... though I wouldn't call it "cheap" or inexpensive. But it solves the problem of lack of inserts once and for all.

http://images45.fotki.com/v1480/photos/4/28344/7364172/ts04-vi.jpg

The muzzles are threaded M14x1mm. I made this thead-on doohinkus.

http://images45.fotki.com/v1480/photos/4/28344/7364172/ts13-vi.jpg

http://images47.fotki.com/v1473/photos/4/28344/7364172/ts15-vi.jpg

http://images49.fotki.com/v1460/photos/4/28344/7364172/ts16-vi.jpg

http://images46.fotki.com/v1482/photos/4/28344/7364172/ts23-vi.jpg

Lee Shaver inserts. Way nice.

http://images47.fotki.com/v1478/photos/4/28344/7364172/ts05-vi.jpg

http://images45.fotki.com/v1481/photos/4/28344/7364172/ts03-vi.jpg

http://images47.fotki.com/v1478/photos/4/28344/7364172/ts02-vi.jpg

It cost about $100 to do this but the resultant shooting improvement is worth far more than that.

The Lyman 17 is a small tiny itty bitty target sight that's ok for .22 rifles with 24 inch barrels. But on the end of a 29" barrel you need a larger globe sight. This Lyman 93 is the same size as the Redfield and Anschutz and almost exactly the same as the Swedish Elit.

I'm going to experiment further with this and make a closed ring with setscrews to replace the Lipski barrel clamp. I can lower the globe a little bit by doing this and make the whole setup less expensive and a bit less bulky.

The obvious question: Why can't you mount the Lyman sight directly to the doohinkus? You could. But the M14x1 threads are not indexed the same for all rifles. It wouldn't line up. The doohinkus gets locktighted in place and the "collar" gets setscrewed (or also pinned) to the collar after its located top-dead-center. If I was doing this for just my own rifle I could make the doohinkus smaller in diameter instead of 3/4" to take the Lipski barrel clamp. All Ar15 front sight doohinkus' are 3/4" diameter, thus laying before the humble feet of thee, the entire universe of front sight doohinkii, the individual inhabitants of doohinkusstan. This grand adaptation of existing technology was created for the betterment of all mankind, including polar bears dying because of polar ice melting from global warming and most of all for the children.


Dutch

Bob S
10-01-2009, 12:10 AM
The Lipski Barrel Bands are very versitile. This one is on the front of a Swiss Gew 1911:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/BobS1/GEW_Anschutz_Front.jpg

There are two split bushings under the barrel band made from copper water pipe. The front sight is an Anschutz. (There's a Parker-Hale 5A on the back).

On the front of a US M1903:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/BobS1/Springfield%2003s/03A3LipskibaseP-Hsight.jpg

You can see the one copper bushing through the limber hole. Front sight is Parker-Hale. (Rear is Lyman 48).

One that works very well on just about any milsurp is a St. Marie (now known as Swiss Products).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/BobS1/S_Mfrontghostringaperture.jpg

These are made specifically for the Swiss K31 and are part of a set, so finding a "loose" front sight only might be a problem. It's a little high, but they made a shorter one for a very brief time. I don't have any pix of it on a Swede, but here it is on a Krag:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/BobS1/Krag/Kragclamp-onfront.jpg

It is going on a CG-63.

Resp'y,
Bob S.

EMC45
10-01-2009, 06:01 AM
Neat project!

calsag
02-09-2015, 02:00 PM
Dutchman,

I am a longtime resident of dohinkustan, own a number of Swedes, and read your posts above and elsewhere on the site regarding your doohinkus with great interest. Are you still making them for sale? If so, are you still charging $25? I'd be interested in buying a couple.

Thanks