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kamikaze1a
09-30-2009, 03:44 PM
Anyone look into a 200gr mold for 40 or 10mm for that matter? For STI/SVI loaders, I would think that the lube groove would have to be lower than usual since most seat long... Anything in the works?

Trey45
09-30-2009, 05:51 PM
I have some factory D&J 200 grain and 220 grain lead boolits I load for 40SW. D&J is out of business now. If you want I'll grab a couple and post a picture of them so you can see where the lube groove is.

sargenv
09-30-2009, 06:23 PM
If I were to get another mold made up for 40 cal, it would likely be in the 200-210 range.. and it would still be a semi pointed RN.. currently I'm using a 4 cav LBT mold that is a semi pointed RN in 185 gr weight range. The primary gun this shoots out of is a S&W 610 but I can also load it long (1.241") for my Para P16. Likely that load would work fine in an S_I gun. They come out .401 as cast and I tumble lube them with JPW. It has one shallow lube groove that was reccomended to me by Veral just in case the tumble lubing would not work. Well, it has worked, quite well :)

Added pics of the boolits

kamikaze1a
09-30-2009, 10:34 PM
Thanks guys! I found a few commercial casters who list 200gr but I haven't bought any in a while. I really prefer to cast my own but can't find a six bagger mold. RCBS and Saeco sells mold but they are faster than a speeding tortoise 2 cavity molds...

yondering
09-30-2009, 10:48 PM
Pretty sure you can get a 200 or 220 gr WFN from LBT. Beartooth Bullets sells 200gr FNGC boolits which I think are from a LBT mold. DoubleTap Ammo sells 10mm ammo loaded with 200 and 220gr WFN which I think are from LBT.

If it were me, I'd have Mountain Molds make me a mold in that style. Someday I will do that, when funds permit.
I load long in my Para P16; essentially 10mm overall length (chamber is long throated) and 10mm load data. This works great with jacketed but leaves the lube groove exposed on cast; someday I'll put a 10mm barrel in it.

richbug
10-01-2009, 07:35 AM
If I were to get another mold made up for 40 cal, it would likely be in the 200-210 range.. and it would still be a semi pointed RN.. currently I'm using a 4 cav LBT mold that is a semi pointed RN in 185 gr weight range. The primary gun this shoots out of is a S&W 610 but I can also load it long (1.241") for my Para P16. Likely that load would work fine in an S_I gun. They come out .401 as cast and I tumble lube them with JPW. It has one shallow lube groove that was reccomended to me by Veral just in case the tumble lubing would not work. Well, it has worked, quite well :)

Do you have a picture of this bullet? One of those would interest me very much. For my P-16 and 610.

nevermind, I just can't swallow $175+ for a mold.

Maybe Swede, or Mihec would be interested 200 gr, .401", low lube groove, 1R profile or so.

sleeper1428
10-01-2009, 02:31 PM
You might want to check out two SAECO moulds, #047 and #048, both designed for the 10mm. The #047 is a 200gr TCBB while the #048 is a 200gr SWCBB design. I have the #047 mould and have cast and shot LOTS of these 200gr boolits in my Glock 20 over the past 20+ years. Great boolit and the mould worked beautifully right from the very start.

sleeper1428

Shiloh
10-01-2009, 09:45 PM
Is there a load for a 2oo gr boolit for the .40 S&W?? Seems more like a boolit for the 10mm.
Would there be pressure spike problems in a .40??

Shiloh

Intel6
10-01-2009, 10:21 PM
Pretty sure you can get a 200 or 220 gr WFN from LBT. Beartooth Bullets sells 200gr FNGC boolits which I think are from a LBT mold. DoubleTap Ammo sells 10mm ammo loaded with 200 and 220gr WFN which I think are from LBT.

If it were me, I'd have Mountain Molds make me a mold in that style. Someday I will do that, when funds permit.
I load long in my Para P16; essentially 10mm overall length (chamber is long throated) and 10mm load data. This works great with jacketed but leaves the lube groove exposed on cast; someday I'll put a 10mm barrel in it.


We are discussing this right now on the group buy section. I put a pic of some heavy 10 bullets.

I have the LBT 200 gr WFNGC mould and two of the Lyman (discontinued) 200 gr FP moulds.

I don't lube the upper lube groove on the Lyman when I use the bullets loaded long in .40.

The LBT mould has one lube groove and it is low so you can load that long in the .40 without a problem.

Neal in AZ

sargenv
10-01-2009, 11:07 PM
See above added picture of my 185 Semi pointed RN.. 4 Cavity. It was expensive, but it was EXACTLY what I wanted.. no compromise and in my eyes somewhat of a work of art and worth every penny.

Many of the top shooters utilize fast burning powders (usually clays) with a loaded long 200 gr cast bullet, usually precision or Bear creek Moly coated, or a J word Montana gold. Clays always seemed like I was pushing my luck.. My current load for 185's in major is 4.5 gr of Solo 1000, minor is 3.8 gr of Solo 1000 and both are loaded way long (1.241").

You CANNOT load 200 gr bullets to the SAAMI Max OAL of 1.135", pressures would spike and likely blow up your gun (or at least give you a nasty surpise, ask me how I know ;) ). People get away with it due to loading long (1.195-1.205").

richbug
10-02-2009, 06:57 AM
My current load for 185's in major is 4.5 gr of Solo 1000, minor is 3.8 gr of Solo 1000 and both are loaded way long (1.241").

You CANNOT load 200 gr bullets to the SAAMI Max OAL of 1.135", pressures would spike and likely blow up your gun (or at least give you a nasty surpise, ask me how I know ;) ). People get away with it due to loading long (1.195-1.205").

My current load with a plated bullet is 4.9 of Solo 1000 with a 180, or 4.0 with a 200.

I load to 1.185 with these.

with lead I load the Lee 175 to just cover the canalure with 4.8 grains of Solo 1000



I really like that 185 gr mould, but there is no way I'll pay $175

kamikaze1a
10-06-2009, 05:20 PM
Is there a load for a 2oo gr boolit for the .40 S&W?? Seems more like a boolit for the 10mm.
Would there be pressure spike problems in a .40??

Shiloh


You are right if you seat them to normal 40 OAL. But if you load it long and your barrel is "throated" to accept the long OAL it will work.