Is H335 or BLC-2 30-06 Cast Bullet Friendly?

[TC66]

I have about 30 lbs of H335 and BLC-2 and want to cast some bullets for my 30-06. THe molds I have are C309-113-F 113 gr Flat Point and C309-170-F 170 gr flat point. Anyone know of a good starting point? I don't see anything in the cast bullet handbook.

[swheeler]

TC66-you can make them friendlier by using dacron filler and a heavier boolit. With the 170 gr I would start with 28-335 and dacron for abiut 1800 fps or about 30-ballC mag primer.

[Guido4198]

I've had great results with WC-846 (which loads very much like Ball C-2/H-335).
My closest load to your situation is in the .308. Using a 172 gn. cast , 24 gns. powder and a std. rifle primer I get 1450 fps. VERY mild. Prints .5-.6 in. grps. consistently from a rest @ 50 yds. from an out-of-the box Rem. 700. I would imagine with your 170 you can start in the mid to upper 20's and work up depending upon what you're looking for. I have no idea on the lighter weight bullet.
Hope this helps....
Don

[Trailblazer]

The NRA Cast Bullets book suggests 28-34 gr. BL-C(2) for velocities from 1700-2100 FPS in the 30-06. That would be for the midweight bullets and heavier so it would work for the 170. I picked up 8 lbs. of old BL-C(2) recently but haven't tried it in the 30-06 yet. I compared it to WC846 in the 30-30 last week and got slightly higher velocities with the BL-C(2). When comparing published data, it looks like the old BL-C2 was hotter than the current version.

[BruceB]

Gents;

I had serious hang-fire troubles with H335 in my Garand (.30'06, of course), and this was with JACKETED-bullet loads at roughly factory-load pressures. Virtually every round gave a very noticeable "click-BANG" effect, and I'd be very leery about using it again. It was bad enough that I took the rest of the batch home and pulled the bullets after firing about forty rounds. This ammo had CCI 250 Magnum primers, too. Replacing only the powder in the disassembled rounds (with H4895) gave me normal performance.

In the .223 and .308/7.62 NATO, H335 works fine for me, but not in the .30'06.

[swheeler]

use a filler

[sundog]

I will second what Bruce says. I shot some '06 loaded for Garand velocity with surp 2230-C (very close burn rate) and got the same thing with delayed ignition. Sure ruined my last high power match. I like 4064 in the M1 better than 4895, but both are ideal performers. sundog

[versifier]

I think you are looking in the wrong handbook. Pick up a copy of Modern Reloading 2nd Ed. by Richard Lee
The Lee Handbook lists for
110gr cast loads:
BL-C(2) 29.0 - 56.0gr
H335 27.0 - 44.0gr
125gr cast loads:
BL-C(2) 29.0 - 53.0gr
H335 26.0 - 45.0gr
168gr cast loads:
BL-C(2) 25.0 - 37.0gr
H335 23.0 - 41.0gr

[swheeler]

TC66; here's what I have recorded

170 gr laser-cast-28.0H335+dacron-fc210-1880fps 3.0@100(bullet's problem)
200 gr Lee- 28.0H335+dacron-fc210 pr-1734fps 1.9"@100
200gr Lee-30.0 BLC-2+dacron-215 pr-1748fps 2.5"@100
I noted NO hangfires

Hodgdon Data manual #25
165 gr bullet
H335 43-47 grs,2540-2738 fps, 42,200-48,900 cup
BL-C(2) 45-49 grs,2534-2698 fps, 43,800-48,700 cup

Since you have 30 pounds of this powder I certainly would give it a try, they both are similar to 748 Win in burn characteristics and I have used it in cast loads also with decent results, I have always used dacron filler with them all including 846 and 844 surplus. Hope this helps
Scot

[TC66]

That is what I like about Cast Boolits. Need answers just ask. Thank you all for your responses and this has given me some really good starting points. When I cast a few bullets I will give some feedback to what I have found.