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XBT
04-08-2006, 10:09 AM
Medium sized Arizona Javelina taken at about seventy yards. One shot to the ribs stopped him in his tracks. The M-1 Carbine works fine for game of this size.

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Ranch Dog
04-08-2006, 10:21 AM
Nice javi... what bullet you shooting?

XBT
04-08-2006, 07:53 PM
My son actually shot it. He was using standard 110 grn. jacketed soft points.

I have experimented with some cast boolits from a RCBS .30-115-SP mold and they look like they will shoot fine. I intend to change over to cast but I had so many jacketed boolits on hand that I’m still using them up.

Ranch Dog
04-09-2006, 12:18 AM
I was thinking of a couple of the Lee bullets for mine.

Junior1942
04-09-2006, 06:55 AM
I always thought a 30 carbine would make a dandy hog rifle due to the compact size and fast follow up shot capability.

Ranch Dog
04-09-2006, 09:20 AM
http://www.leeprecision.com/graphics/bullets/c309113f.gif
C309113F
http://www.leeprecision.com/graphics/bullets/c309120r.gif
C309120R

Here are the two Lee bullets I had in mind. I purchased both about a year ago and just haven't got to working with either. Haven't even slugged the bore on my Universal Carbine. I favor the flat point of the C309113F as long as it would feed successfully. Lee's Modern Reloading II has suggested loads for both bullets.

The rifle actually belongs to my dad and over the years both of us have killed a number of deer, hogs and javelina with the cartridge and rifle using JSP bullets.

jh45gun
04-09-2006, 06:46 PM
I do not reccomend the round nose bullets stick with the flat tipped ones.

ruger4570
04-09-2006, 08:14 PM
When I lived in Tucson I used a 30 Carbine on Coyotes and Javalina. It was always a one shot kill. I don't recommend it, but, I think the carbine might even work on the little Coese deer there. I can't wait to move back and try it,, maybe,, I do have better guns for the job though.

26Charlie
04-09-2006, 09:34 PM
Tried cast bullets in the M-1 Carbine my father-in-law brought back from Europe in 1945; After about 20 rounds began getting failures to chamber due to a lead ring of shavings building up in the throat area and stopping the next round from chambering completely. The throat / start of rifling seemed to be rather steep and sharp, causing shavings from the cast bullet whiich built up into a ring.
This carbine is an IBM with the L-shaped flip-up 100/200 yd. sight. Serial is about 3.8 million.
No problems with jacketed bullets, but I gave up on cast bullets in it. I don't know if other carbines have this problem.

Joel Lehman
04-09-2006, 11:57 PM
I use a Lyman 311359 in my DMC carbine with a gas check. I've used this bullet since 1964.

6pt-sika
04-10-2006, 01:20 AM
Cool my dad and grandad have M1 Cabines they bought from the NRA in the 60's for I think $20 a piece. My pops is a Winchester with a walnut stock and my grandads is a Singer (I believe) with a maple stock .

Shepherd2
04-10-2006, 07:36 AM
I've shot 1000s of the Lyman 311359 thru my M1 Carbine. Very reliable. Lately I been trying out the Lee C309113F. It feeds well for a flat nosed boolit and is accurate.

Newtire
04-10-2006, 08:43 AM
Have had great success with the Lee 120 gr. & the Lee 130 gr. Can't get the Soupcan to feed in my gun. Some of the carbines don't like it & some do it appears. I used 12.5 gr. H-4227 for the 120 Lee as it was right in between maximum loads for the 115 gr. & the 130 gr. Also the 311359 is awesome in the gun I have.

Poygan
04-10-2006, 08:54 AM
26Charlie, I think you've just solved a problem I had with my carbine and some 311359s cast from range lead from many years ago. Fired 50 of them (unsized and no gas check) and then tried to run a few I loaded recently sized and with gas check to clean out the barrel a bit. Wouldn't chamber and left the boolit in the chamber when I finally got it open. Tried second round with same results. I changed the nose profile somewhat upon sizing and thought that could be the problem. The noses of both boolits had an obvious dent that happened upon chambering. In the past, I didn't fire enough at one time between cleaning so that any lead build-up wasn't noticed. Harder boolits may solve the problem.

Larry Gibson
04-10-2006, 01:34 PM
Years ago when it was a legal caliber in Oregon I killed 7 blacktail deer, all 1 shot each, with my M1 Carbine before I read enough to know it wasn't "adequate". Those deer were shot with 110 gr SPs and 100 gr Hornady HJs. I also shot a bunch of feral goats with the M1Carbine using the 100 gr HJs and some 311420 HPs. That cast plain base bullet worked ok but accuracy was only half of what I got with 311359. I shot a couple goats with the 311359 but it was totally lacking and was like using FMJs. When Lyman announced the 105 gr SWC GC bullet for the .32 H&R I got one to try with the M1 Carbine. Cast of WWs and sized .309/.310 I run them at 1900 fps with excellent (2 1/2 moa) accuracy. They kill coyote, rabbits and goats as well as the 100 gr HJs. Worked so well I traded off the other two moulds (subsequently regret it as they would have had othe uses). I would not hesitate to shoot a deer with one within reasonable range.

I've fired thousands of cast bullets in M1 numerous M1 carbines (and a few M2s)since '67 and have only had leading of one gas piston. It was with the PB bullets and Unique powder. I've not had any leading with GC bullets using H4227 and H110. I've one M1 That I've purposely not cleaned the gas system for going on five years now with no problems. Great little carbines.

Larry Gibson

C1PNR
04-10-2006, 08:21 PM
Another good word for the 311359 as regards reliability and accuracy. I'd probably choose another boolit for hunting, though.

I'm afraid that pointy thing would zip right through the object of your affection without it even realizing it'd been shot! At least not for a minute or so.:Fire: