Trailblazer
04-06-2006, 07:30 PM
I tried some bullets from my new NEI 290 grain mold today in the 356 Winchester. They cast up at 295 grains in WW. They went 1893 FPS pushed by 38 grains of BL-C(2). You do know something happened when you pull the trigger! The first three went into .8" at 100 yards. That bullet fits so good! The next two opened the group to about 3". I realized later I was lifting my head off the stock. Apparently three wacks in the cheek bone is my limit!
I also tried some of the Saeco 352's which cast at 252 grains. They went 2008 FPS with 40 grains BL-C(2). Once again the first three grouped good at about 1-1/4" at 100 yards and the next two opened the group to about 3". Can't keep my head down past three.
I am going to have to take a plane to these levergun stocks! My Marlin 30-30 is even worse. I have a long neck and crawl the stock and those sharp little combs beat my cheekbone up.
Both loads are to long to cycle through the action. In fact it is a one way trip into the chamber. They are to long to eject without firing unless you can get them out from under the extractor. I am trying to find out what they will do when loaded the way they should be. 2000 FPS should not be any problem with the 300 grainer and the 250 ought to easily go 2100. Later on I will see what they do when loaded to the right length to cycle through the action. I have been studying the 94 action and I think I can get them to cycle longer ammo pretty easily and that is the real solution.
I also tried some of the Saeco 301's and 311's in my 30-30. The 301's cast at 205 grains and the 311 at 165 grains. I loaded them with BL-C(2), WC846, WC852(slow) and W760. Velocities were all around 1900 FPS. I got a lot of vertical stinging and widely scattered shots. The only one that grouped was the Saeco 301 with W760 load. Four went into 1.3" and the fifth opened the group to 2.4" at 100 yards with a Redfield receiver sight. By then I was keeping my head back so the comb wasn't wacking my cheekbone. That load looks like a keeper!
I also tried some of the Saeco 352's which cast at 252 grains. They went 2008 FPS with 40 grains BL-C(2). Once again the first three grouped good at about 1-1/4" at 100 yards and the next two opened the group to about 3". Can't keep my head down past three.
I am going to have to take a plane to these levergun stocks! My Marlin 30-30 is even worse. I have a long neck and crawl the stock and those sharp little combs beat my cheekbone up.
Both loads are to long to cycle through the action. In fact it is a one way trip into the chamber. They are to long to eject without firing unless you can get them out from under the extractor. I am trying to find out what they will do when loaded the way they should be. 2000 FPS should not be any problem with the 300 grainer and the 250 ought to easily go 2100. Later on I will see what they do when loaded to the right length to cycle through the action. I have been studying the 94 action and I think I can get them to cycle longer ammo pretty easily and that is the real solution.
I also tried some of the Saeco 301's and 311's in my 30-30. The 301's cast at 205 grains and the 311 at 165 grains. I loaded them with BL-C(2), WC846, WC852(slow) and W760. Velocities were all around 1900 FPS. I got a lot of vertical stinging and widely scattered shots. The only one that grouped was the Saeco 301 with W760 load. Four went into 1.3" and the fifth opened the group to 2.4" at 100 yards with a Redfield receiver sight. By then I was keeping my head back so the comb wasn't wacking my cheekbone. That load looks like a keeper!