milihec 44 hp?

[Lloyd Smale]

anyone actually shoot these yet? i have some casted buy have been running around like a chicken with my head cut off with this new barn project and havent been out shooting. Just wonder how they shot and if they needed some velocity to get to group well and if the shallow crimp groves are giving enough grip. Ive got some casted with hps out of a hard and a soft alloy and some hard ones without a hp and was going to load some soon and was wondering.

[Down South]

I’ve shot 100 rounds or so loaded with 15 & 15.5 Gr of 2400. Both loads have done well printing about 1-1/2” to 2" groups at 30 yards with my 629. I’d like to tighten the groups up a little but I need to work on my loads more and try a couple other powders. Like you, I just haven’t had the time to explore all of the loads that I will try at some point.
The shallow crimp grooves have worked well so far. I’m using the first crimp groove with a medium roll crimp and the boolits are not moving in the case from recoil. I haven’t used my chronograph yet so I can’t tell you what my velocities were.

[mike in co]

there are 2 other threads here on this boolit...both list it as a 296......mine are 288 wo gc

[Down South]

Mine are 296 W/GC & Lube. Don't remember what the naked weight is.

[6pt-sika]

I've shot them in a 444 .

I cast WW's and WQ'd .

Pushed them with 50 grains of H322 and lit it with a CCI200 . Looked pretty good at 50 yards and then busted football sized rocks at 100 yards offhand !

[nighthunter]

Mine weigh in at 300 gr with lube and GC. I shot some with 18.0 gr WC-820. Expansion was quite good but accuracy left a lot to desire. About 3 1/2" at 25 yds out of a 5 1/2" Ruger Super Blackhawk. Recoil was very stout and I need to drop the charge down.

Nighthunter

[Lloyd Smale]

I loaded some today and first loaded some using the first grove figureing theyd work in the redhawk. Well they were swallowed in it. I tried them in a blackhawk and there was still gobs or room to the end of the cylinder. I cant see a use for the other groves except possibly in my 444 but i havent tried them in it to see where they needed crimping.
I’ve shot 100 rounds or so loaded with 15 & 15.5 Gr of 2400. Both loads have done well printing about 1-1/2” to 2" groups at 30 yards with my 629. I’d like to tighten the groups up a little but I need to work on my loads more and try a couple other powders. Like you, I just haven’t had the time to explore all of the loads that I will try at some point.
The shallow crimp grooves have worked well so far. I’m using the first crimp groove with a medium roll crimp and the boolits are not moving in the case from recoil. I haven’t used my chronograph yet so I can’t tell you what my velocities were.

[mike in co]

at full length ...top groove, i have to push the round in the last 10-20 thou. but they do go in.
i think i will use the mid groove in the future as part of my shooting is a reload/speed event.
or go back to the 293lfn lee group buy.
and bottom groove for the marlin lever gun hopefully
mike in co

[JesterGrin_1]

Mike I need to try more loads but My Marlin 1894SS in .44 Mag will feed them fine in the middle crimp groove. As long as I do not try and race them in. Just a smooth even lever feed. But if they are a little long there is a fix here on the forum to enable you to load a longer cartridge.

[6pt-sika]

there are 2 other threads here on this boolit...both list it as a 296......mine are 288 wo gc

With water quenched wheelweights I was getting 287-288 straight from the water and dried .

[hunter64]

I've shot them in a 444 .

I cast WW's and WQ'd .

Pushed them with 50 grains of H322 and lit it with a CCI200 . Looked pretty good at 50 yards and then busted football sized rocks at 100 yards offhand !

That is moving right along, 50 Grn of H322 would be about 2100 fps give or take 50 fps, about 28 ft/lbs of recoil (twice as much as a 180 gn 30-06) , 3200 ft/lbs of energy about 10-20% more than factory. Man that will slow a Moose down.

[timbuck]

Mike I need to try more loads but My Marlin 1894SS in .44 Mag will feed them fine in the middle crimp groove. As long as I do not try and race them in. Just a smooth even lever feed. But if they are a little long there is a fix here on the forum to enable you to load a longer cartridge.

Where is that fix? Do you have a link? I know about the search function, but dont know what words you would search for that.

[JesterGrin_1]

Where is that fix? Do you have a link? I know about the search function, but dont know what words you would search for that.

Here you go. :) http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=7750

[6pt-sika]

That is moving right along, 50 Grn of H322 would be about 2100 fps give or take 50 fps, about 28 ft/lbs of recoil (twice as much as a 180 gn 30-06) , 3200 ft/lbs of energy about 10-20% more than factory. Man that will slow a Moose down.

Well I don't have acess to moose here in central Virginia . But I sure knocked the fire out of a 4 point buck here at about 19:20 ! Shot him at 30 yards on a damage control permit .

I might add he is now cut up and in the freezer except for the tenderloin and one backstrap which will be cooked at the gunsmith shop tommorrow for lunch ;)

[Lloyd Smale]

congrats! First blood with that bullet. glad it worked out well.
Well I don't have acess to moose here in central Virginia . But I sure knocked the fire out of a 4 point buck here at about 19:20 ! Shot him at 30 yards on a damage control permit .

I might add he is now cut up and in the freezer except for the tenderloin and one backstrap which will be cooked at the gunsmith shop tommorrow for lunch ;)

[6pt-sika]

congrats! First blood with that bullet. glad it worked out well.

It worked out rather well !

I tried the Ranch Dog 432350GC on a deer wednesday evening and got one . Then thursday evening I got another deer with this bullet :drinks:

I might add they were both old 444's that I had never blooded before [smilie=1:

[6pt-sika]

As well as this 295 HP has performed in my 444 I think I would really like to see this design in a 270 and 320 grain versions . Same deal brass 2 cavity Cramer HP's !

I will hopefully have HP versions on the Ranch Dog 432265 , 432300 and 432350 in the semi near future :bigsmyl2:

[Lloyd Smale]

I just got some 444 brass. Mine was lost in the fire. Thats one project im looking forward to. It ought to be a wicked deer bullet in the 444.

[bishopgrandpa]

Yesterday at the range I fired for the first time my Mihec 44/444 over 45 gr of
H322 and at 75yds got a 5 shot group of 1.25". Looks like a good starting place.