Recommended bullet for 41 Magnum

[Onty]

Can anybody recommend me a bullet for 41 Magnum that consistently shows as accurate one. I need one for range, including a half scale silhouette shooting, 200-220 gr, plain base. Velocity would be at around 1000-1200 fps from 6-7” barrel. No special preference for SWC, LBT or TC, but I it would be nice to have a meplat about .280” dia, “just in case”. I tried search but “41” is too short for system to work. Manual search did not provide info I am looking for.

Revolver I am shooting is Ruger Bisley 7.5”, but hope to get soon 7.5” Redhawk in same calibre. Many thanks, Onty.

[Rick N Bama]

Can anybody recommend me a bullet for 41 Magnum that consistently shows as accurate one. I need one for range, including a half scale silhouette shooting, 200-220 gr, plain base. Velocity would be at around 1000-1200 fps from 6-7” barrel. No special preference for SWC, LBT or TC, but I it would be nice to have a meplat about .280” dia, “just in case”. I tried search but “41” is too short for system to work. Manual search did not provide info I am looking for.

Revolver I am shooting is Ruger Bisley 7.5”, but hope to get soon 7.5” Redhawk in same calibre. Many thanks, Onty.


Do you want a mold to cast for yourself or use a commercially cast boolit? For doing it yourself, it's hard to beat the RCBS 41-210SWC. For a commercial boolit, the Magnus 215gr SWC has worked just fine in my SRH. If I couldn't cast for myself, that's the boolit I would be shooting.

btw, welcome to the board!!

Rick

[Heavy lead]

That's what I shoot. The RCBS is good too, the Lyman if you can find it. This boolit has a wide meplat, wider than a 429-421, casts about .413 and shoots great out of all my 657's.http://www.neihandtools.com/catalog/index.html
Try this link.

[9.3X62AL]

I use two moulds in 41 Magnum, and both shoot better than I can hold.

1) Lyman #410032, a 212 grain plain-based SWC with narrow meplat but full-caliber front shoulder. Judging by its wadcutter-like holes in paper, I would select it for game-taking without reservation.

2) Lee 240 grain plain-based SWC. This one has a shorter and much wider meplat, and full-caliber shoulder. It also produces full-caliber holes in paper.

[Throwback]

Lyman 410459, which is available at premium prices (used) has a justly deserved reputation for accuracy. I have used it on game with excellent results. I will need to measure the meplat to give you that detail but I have been pleased with this bullet. It lists at 220 grains but it can vary somewhat from mold to mold.

[GLynn41]

Nei list a plain base 230 K that is very good in addition to the others mentioned

[deltaenterprizes]

I like SAECO's 170 gr SWC that was made for the 41 AE for target loads.

[leadman]

I know you wanted plain base and I don't have one to recommend. But, I do load the Saeco 220gr. gas checked truncated cone. Not a very popular bullet yet I consistently get 3" groups off the bench at 100 yards. This is in a Ruger Super Blackhawk Hunter with 2 power TC scope.

I have shot at and hit rocks at over 200 yards.

[big dale]

I have an old Lee 240 grain swc block that is my all time favorite for this caliber. The 238 grain roundnose was not as accurate for me. Neither was the 195 grain Lee swc.

Big Dale

[fourarmed]

The 410459 is excellent, but loads over SAAMI length, so before buying a mold for that, look in the Lyman manual and see what the length is (I don't recall offhand), and if it is compatible with Ruger cylinders. The RCBS 41-210 has given me outstanding accuracy with 6 gr./231. Leadheads sells a 265 gr. (nominal - the ones I bought were closer to 280) GC bullet that does very well at long range.

[BarryinIN]

The 410459 is excellent, but loads over SAAMI length, so before buying a mold for that, look in the Lyman manual and see what the length is (I don't recall offhand), and if it is compatible with Ruger cylinders.

I don't have a 410459, but I just checked and the Lyman manual says 1.700 OAL with it.
I think SAAMI spec is 1.590 OAL.

[Dale53]

I just looked up the Lyman 410459 (or rather, tried to) and discovered that Lyman no longer furnishes this. First, it was the dropping of the .45 Keith bullet (452424) in four cavity moulds, and now this. I don't use a .41 Magnum but a number of people are happy with theirs. Lyman's bullet was the gold standard, now...

It's downright disgusting to see how the "New World Order" takes care of their customers...

Rant over,
Dale53

[mtgrs737]

I cast and shoot the Saeco 410. It is a RNF style boolit that weighs 217grs in my 50% WW and 50% Linotype alloy. The meplat measures .275", it has a single large grease groove and is flat based. It drops from the mould at .413+" I like it a lot.

I got the mould from Lock Stock and Barrel, I would send you a sample so you can look at them If you would like. PM me for a sample.

[AZ-Stew]

I've shot THOUSANDS of the Lyman 410459 and a few thousand of the Saeco equivalent (sorry, don't have the style number and the mould's out in the shop while I type this in the house). Either is top of the heap. I've shot them at 900 fps and 1,400 fps with excellent results. I seldom shoot Magnum loads any more out of anything over .357 caliber because of the wear on the guns. For hunting or defense with the .41, I can't imagine needing anything over 1,000 fps unless you're trying to stop a grizz.

I shoot M-57 Smiths and a Taurus titanium. The Smiths will take full-length seated boolits, but the Taurus needs to have the cases shortened to crimp into the crimp groove and keep the boolit noses inside the cylinder face. Don't know about Rugers.

Regards,

Stew

[missionary5155]

Good morning
I will also go with the Saeco 410. Mine casts right at 223 with ww/lead. I Use it for everything.
In my Marlin Cowboy Carbine this Saeco MUST have shortened brass to function reliably in my rifle.
My Taurus Titanium also MUST have shorter brass with this and other molds.
Most rescently I have begun loading a "Custom" 265 grain GC That looks very promising in the Marlin. It will also see eventual service in my Dan Wesson 41 mag and a 41 Supermag I am building on my 375 frame using an origonal 41 SM cylinder. This Boolit was designed with 2 crimp grooves. It loads perfect into my Taurus (the shortest cylinder) using standard brass using the short OAL. Same with the Marlin. The Dans are all long cylinders. Have not tried any Rugers yet.
Remember BRASS is easy to shorten for those LONG nose Boolits. I keep my OLD "starting to split neck" brass in a bag and when the urge arrizes to LONG load a Boolit the old tired brass get choped at the neck and returned to active duty.

[Onty]

Thanks to all for reply. Yes, I would like to cast my own bullets. Since any time I go on range I shoot 150-200 rounds, and would like to use well proven bullets. PB prefered so I do not depend on gas checks. Of course, PB are less costly to shoot and less time to work on them.

I tried Lyman 41032, Lyman 410610, SAECO 409, Lee 190 SWC with two grease grooves (discontinued, do not know No.), with so-so results. There is one thing I do not like on all of them; front driving band length miniscule, less than 1/16", and diameters .408-.409”.

Now, considering what is available, seems to me that two designs are front runners; RCBS 41-210 SWC and SAECO 410. As for these two designs, what are front driving band lengths and diameters as cast? What is meplat dia on RCBC?

Also, I might consider NEI .410-220-PB #221 or NEI .410-230-PB #223, anybody used these two?

Next option is GB, anything looming that might work for me? BTW, I would prefer meehanite over aluminum. If you want, I can make design on Catia V5 or SolidWorks, and get exact weight. Once I checked WW and got density 11 g/cm3. Pure lead is 11.36 g/cm3. As for design itself, I was thinking of TC shape, 210-220 gr, .280 meplat dia, .400 nose to crimp, PB, single grease groove. This design is simple to manufacture and since this bullet is not heavy, it wouldn't take too much of case capacity. Actually, not having too much case capacity might be beneficial for accuracy when aiming for practising loads.

Thanks Mtgrs for your kind offer but since I am in Canada this could be problem on border. I have to check first before anything is done. What are powders, loads, revolver(s)? What kind of velocity and accuracy you are getting for each of those loads?

[GLynn41]

I have used the RCBS and the 220k by NEI both are really good--I like the looks of the nei but either will work

[felix]

A Marlin lever gun can handle a full caliber nose up to and including 0.200, so keep that in mind for a general purpose boolit. Sizing diameter must be 0.413 for this gun without using a check. ... felix

[GLynn41]

If you can find one the Lyman has always been just great//

[Onty]

Just found this post http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=57895 and bullets

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14704&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1247543638

1. Lyman 410459 - 220 grs
2. H & G 258.410 - 220 grs
3. Lyman 41032 - 212 grs
4. Lyman 41026 - 199 grs
5. Lyman 41028 - 212 grs
6. Lyman 410426 - 240 grs
7. Lee 410-240SWC - 240 grs
8. Lee 410640 - 237 grs (Group Buy)

Those 2. H & G 258.410 - 220 grs and 8. Lee 410640 - 237 grs (Group Buy) look beautiful. I've heard that H&G 258.410 is excellent bullet in almost any revolver. Anybody has experience with Lee 410640?

[Heavy lead]

Also, I might consider NEI .410-220-PB #221

Yup, see post #3. It is a great boolit, near as I can tell as close to a Keith design as you are going to get. It'll shoot good slow, medium or fast and kills deer just fine. The NEI mould is a fine mould and Lee handles bolt right up to it. Casts 230 grains with 50/50 ww and pure lead sized to .411 and lubes with bac no leading out of 3 different 657's.

[Dollar Bill]

I shoot the 410459 in my RBH w/4 5/8 barrel. Even at max case length, crimped in the groove, the bullet sits about .020 inside the cylinder. I would think the newer Bisleys use the same length cylinder.