41 Swiss brass

[abunaitoo]

I use reformed 8x50R Label brass.
Works fine except it's really thin at the neck.
Anyone compare the reformed Label brass and the reformed 348 brass?????

[jhrosier]

When you form the cases from .348 brass the original neck is discarded and the new neck is formed from the thicker brass of the case.

http://images30.fotki.com/v45/photos/5/590147/5580198/P1080270ms-vi.jpg

Jack

[smokemjoe]

When you full lenght resize the 8X50 R after you fire form it once, Why it may split when you fire it again or burn out the neck, I have made over 400 rds. of it and only had this burn out 3 cases and split 2 necks after being fired over 1,000 times.I also anneal where the new neck will be.

[abunaitoo]

I don't have that much of a problem with splits.
Maybe one out of 100 after 4 or 5 reloadings.
I'm neck sizing with a 44mag die.
I anneal when I get a split.
Should I anneal more offten????

[abunaitoo]

To jhrosier,
Is the bullet on the right an original????
I'm looking for a mould that will cast a bullet just like that. 432di, 300gr, flat base. Gas check would be ok too.
Any idea what it would be?????

[jhrosier]

To jhrosier,
Is the bullet on the right an original????

Yes & no, I think that it is a Remington. I don't have it handy but could check if it is important to you.



I'm looking for a mould that will cast a bullet just like that. 432di, 300gr, flat base. Gas check would be ok too.
Any idea what it would be?????

I believe that the original military load used a plain based heeled boolit, similar to a modern .22LR boolit.

The Lee 310gr boolit has worked out well in every way, both accuracy and feeding through the magazine. I can't see any advantage to using anything else.

Jack

[abunaitoo]

Thanks Jack.
I've tried the Lee 310. Works OK. In my rifle, it has a problem when using it through the magazine. It sometimes hangs up feeding.
I'm now using the Lyman 300gr. It also hangs up sometimes.
I've tried some Seaco #433, and they seem to feed well.
I'd get a Seaco #433, but I'd rather have it plain base.

[jhrosier]

...I've tried the Lee 310. Works OK. In my rifle, it has a problem when using it through the magazine. It sometimes hangs up feeding.
....
Feeding into the mag or out?
I have heard one fellow say that the Lee boolit would sometimes hang up when loading the mag because of the blunt nose. He did just a little polishing on the inside of the elevator and fixed it right up.
My gun has a pretty smooth surface there and has not had that problem.
There is also a small radius on the front edge of the elevator that might cause a problem if it is too rough.
If you look again at the photo in my previous post, you will notice that the original rimfire cartridge has a much more rounded rim than the centerfire replacements.
If the hangup is there, a tiny bit more length on the cartridge or perhaps a tiny radius on the rim of the case might make a big difference.

Jack

[smokemjoe]

I am having CBE make a cherry up for the 41 swiss, It has a nose just like the org. bullet,Then its going to have one wide deep grease groove, bore ride befor the ojive, The same lenght and the same wt. 330 Grs. I have lathe turn some bullets and I set 3 national records and 7- 1 st. place at the Miltary Cast Bullet Match in June this year, Its going to cast at .436- .437, But it will not hurt to size it down to .431 and I will go down to .428 also. Hang on, Joe

[dominicfortune00]

smokemjoe

Let me know when they are done and ready to sell molds.

Sounds like one i would want to get for my Vetterli's.

[abunaitoo]

Any idea on how much this mould will be????
Is it plain base????
Is it possible to post a picture????

The Seaco #433 works good in my rifle.
Anyone have one for sale????

I'm using a Lyman 429650. It also hangs up feeding from the tube mag sometimes.
All three bullets shoot well.

[smokemjoe]

The CBE molds run about $85.00, Depends what the money exchange is about, Brass molds, It will be a plain base, I sent Jim my print on it and a bullet to go about 2 weeks ago. Send me your email address and I will draw a rought print up for you to look at. Thanks- Joe

[Mr Humble]

348 brass and standard 250-300 gr .429 bullets work fine. I even used the swaged speer .429s with no issues at all.

[JSH]

That is about enough! Quit with the Vetterli stuff would you. I had put this on the back burner last fall.
GS next weekend. I am going to take the "Carbine Comblain" bayonet and see if I can get enough $ from it to get into a nice Swiss 41.
jeff

[TAWILDCATT]

the original is a paper patched bullet.as I have 4 swiss made.and the base is bigger than the rest but is not very long.I will measure one I have pulled.