Ruger No1 450/400

[Cheshire Dave]

I allways wanted a Ruger No1. Thought I'd get a 45-70, but allready have a Marlin 1895 . With a 415 gr. RCBS at 1800 it's all the power I need from a 45-70. Then I ran accross a 450/400 at a local gunshop. With it's extra weight a 400 at 2150 shouldn't kick much more and it would be great to play with PP bullet's and light 41 mag pistol bullets for plinking or close range deer. Midway has brass and will have Hornady dies soon. Lyman makes a 400 grain plain base .410 and 300 grain moulds for the .405 Win should also work. My question is has anyone got reloading data for this yet? When I Googled it I just got history and load specs, no data. Now I just have to sell my .338 and anything else I can part with.
...A man and his toys...

[Nrut]

Hi Dave
The only reloading manual that I have that shows data for the .450-400 3" is Barnes #3..
AmmoGuide shows 7 loads also but you have to be a paying member there to access the data...
All loads that I see are with 400 gr bullets running from 1800 fps to 2190 fps using powders like Rl-15 & 22, H1000 and the 4381's

I have a #1 in .405 Win. and it's groove / bore dia. are .413"/.405" with a short throat...I bet the 450-400 3" in the #1 will be close to the same...Buy yourself a RCBS 350/.416" gc mold from Buffalo Arms..I just got mine and it sizes down nicely to .415" and weighs 375 grs lubed and checked..

Look at the NEI site for other molds ideas esp. for PP ...The .408-330-PB #211 looks good to me as does their .410-385-PB mold which I have..I find that most of the NEI molds I have throw a heavier boolit than stated..For example the .410-385-PB mold throws a 420gr boolit ..

I bought some 450-400 3'' brass but no dies or rifle yet.. A guys got to be ready, right?:Fire:

Good luck with your 450-400
Mic

[leadman]

I have the 400gr. Lyman Snover mold and load this in my 40-65 RB. Very accurate boolit, easy to cast.

[Cheshire Dave]

Thanks guys. The rifle's not mine yet ,still sitting lonely on the store shelf. That's why I have to sell my .338 Sako. The wife said no money for new toys so I have to get rid of one before getting another. I've heard the bore is supposed to be .410 so your right a .416 sized to .413-.415 should be fine. I also saw H4350 mentioned, but no charge amount. Hey Mic hows the .405 shoot? That's another one I've thought about.

[AkMike]

The wife said no money for new toys so I have to get rid of one before getting another.

Lawd Almighty Man! What'd ya tell her for?[smilie=w::bigsmyl2:

[Cheshire Dave]

Sometimes I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

[Mack Heath]

Go over to the Accurate Reloading Forum and checkk out their load pages for loads for the 450/400 Jeffrey 3".

http://www.accuratereloading.com/450400.html

[Cheshire Dave]

Thanks Mack...That's just what I was hoping to find. Just hope someone doesn't buy "MY" rifle before I do....

[Nrut]

Hello Dave..
Sorry for the late reply. I took the .405 Win. to the range for the first time this past Sunday..I used a light load of H4895 with dacron filler which gave me 1550-1600 FPS.
Five shot groups results at 50 m were:

RCBS .416/.350gr
#1 .955" with the last 4 in .545"
#2 1.59" with 4 in .951"

NEI .410/420gr PP
1.3" with 4 in .737"

I am really looking forward to more testing at 100 m and higher vel....:mrgreen:

[docone31]

You are gonna like the #1.
First thing you do, is disable the ejector. Easy, and the shells come out easily without it. Just no scrambling over your shoulder.
There are a few aftermarket parts that also help it. A barrel stabilizer helps with stringing.
I have had two, one in .375 H&H, which I loved, and one in 470 NE. I am not so sure about that one. It hurt!
A #1 is a just plain easy pointing, strong, good rifle. Kinda light in the high calibers like 470 NE, but ok with .375 H & H. I felt confidant with it. With two rounds in the fingers, and a third in the chamber, it is a sweet rifle.
I miss em.

[scrapcan]

docone31,

You expressed my thoughts exactly, all the way down to I miss them. I had two smaller calibers and wish I still had at least one of them.

A pressure point on the hanger helped the 25-06 1V but I have no experience with the larger bores.

[Cheshire Dave]

docone31, I agree that the .470 is more then I might be able to handle. The 450/400 should be more in line with the .375 recoil wise and has some interesting options for plinkers that the .470 doesn't. Both are classics, yust hope this one doesn't get away.
Thanks for the info Nrut. The .405 is one i will keep an eye out for. Of cource a 45-70 would be hard to pass on too if I found a good deal. ....Too many toys not enough money.

[9.3X62AL]

My #1 x 45-70 provides all the recoil entertainment my jaded tastes can appreciate, and then some. Early in its career, I just had to try some of those 350 grain Hornadys at full-tilt intensities. About like tackling Brian Erlacher after an interception, I'd say. Big-bore calibers in 7.25# rifles are great for carry, but push back with gusto.

[NVcurmudgeon]

My #1 x 45-70 provides all the recoil entertainment my jaded tastes can appreciate, and then some. Early in its career, I just had to try some of those 350 grain Hornadys at full-tilt intensities. About like tackling Brian Erlacher after an interception, I'd say. Big-bore calibers in 7.25# rifles are great for carry, but push back with gusto.

I had one of the earliest Marlin 1895s in 1972, back in my young immortal days. Hornady 350 gr. at honest to Elmer velocities were a bit much. RCBS 400 cast at 1200 were accurate and shootable all day.

[AkMike]

The 450/400 is a great classic round and that coupled with the #1 is a winner! I shoot a 450 NE some and it's not bad for the recoil in a 10 pound rifle. The 400 will be a sweetheart.

[Cheshire Dave]

Hey Nrut, what are you sizing your RCBS .416 /350 down to?

[Nrut]

Hey Nrut, what are you sizing your RCBS .416 /350 down to?

Dave..
I used a .4134" push thru sizing die...The boolit measured .414" with spring back..alloy was ACWW..