Millsurp

[mag_01]

Has anyone found a good place to buy Milsurp rifles---at reasonable prices -- I have my C&R---Mag----:coffee:

[StarMetal]

Aimsurplus.com and interordnance.com.....for gauranteed descriptions Empirearms.com, but they are expensive there. Then there's Samcos and Sarco oh and southern ohio guns.

Joe

[C1PNR]

mag_01,

Take a look here:

http://p223.ezboard.com/fcurioandrelicfirearmsforumfrm23.showMessage?topic ID=807.topic

Lots of sources to get you in trouble with the "War Department." Heck, it worked for me. I now use asbestos gloves to handle my credit card.[smilie=w:

[Buckshot]

................I had an 01 FFL from 1982 to 9-00. Importation regs were relaxed in '86 and the flood was on. I think from 90 to about 95 was the best overall. I ended up with 87 rifles. Not ALL milsurps, but most of'em were.

................Buckshot

[RayinNH]

Buckshot, 87 rifles! Do you just stack them on a pallet like cordwood? :razz:...Ray

[NVcurmudgeon]

I have found Interarms and Classic Arms to deliver firearms of condition and price as represented, and promptly.

[Buckshot]

Buckshot, 87 rifles! Do you just stack them on a pallet like cordwood? :razz:...Ray

......................Nah :-) But since we moved I don't have just one place for them. They're under the bed, stacked in 2 corners of the front bedroom and half the closet. The closet (both are double door sliders) in the back bedroom is full.

I probably should sell some off that I don't shoot much, but it's such a hassle here in California.

.................Buckshot

[swheeler]

Buckshot; sell the house and move out of Kaliforniastan, KEEP THE GUNS!!!!!!!!!

[omgb]

I've been seriously thinking about getting a c&R but was thinking there might be additional hassles in Kalipornia that would make more trouble than it's worth. Any one know about this?

[mag_01]

:coffee: Buckshot I also had an 01-FFL untill Clinton came along and wanted to cut down 01 FFL holders---had mine about 9 yrs.---anywho I had so many feds. and state police at my door I felt very uncomfortable---and gave the 01 FFL up---was told I did not have too but the constant checks (for I dont no what) gave way to letting the FFL go---In that time I bought about 40 rifles and about 20 handguns-------------Some or I should say most where very inexpensive---I bought M39s for $49 1 beat up and the rest like new-now I see them listed for 300 400 for like new guns---I sold the like new ones and kept the beat up one---somebody had reworked it---It was almost like cheating to go to a match (old military bolt) and use it for competition---won a lot of trophys with that old gun---Mag-:castmine:

[tom barthel]

Try ammo depot in Caddo Mills, Texas. They usually have a decent supply of assorted surplus rifles and ammo. I last dealt with them in Mesquite, Tx. Their add says wholesale and retail. Don't know about shipping. No regular web address. Just the Caddo Mills address and the 800 number. They were very fair with me at their old store. Nothing vintured, nothing gained.

Good luck.

Tom

[Buckshot]

I've been seriously thinking about getting a c&R but was thinking there might be additional hassles in Kalipornia that would make more trouble than it's worth. Any one know about this?

..............In the 20 years I had my FFL I was inspected once. The guy called and we made arrangements. He pulled up, sat at the dining room table and flipped through my bound book. He asked me to produce the one rifle in the book not logged out (so it was in inventory). We bs'd a little and he split.

The attractive idea of having a C&R FFL is the dealer breaks some retailers offer. This can be a substantial savings in a years time. It makes you eligible also for many of the dropship programs some offer.

In California the 01 FFL's have quite a few requirements and hoops to jump through on a yearly basis. You have to have a business license, you have to have a letter from your CLEO, you have to have a re-sale permit, then you have to pay 2 different yearly fee's to the state. One for the right (basicly) for them to ALLOW you to be a firearms dealer and the other is a fee for them to maintain you as such?

A C&R FFL is different as you're not 'In the business".

What's nice about the FFL permits is that they are "Will Issue" from the BATFE. You file the application and if you meet the requirements, they "WILL' issue the permit, and have no other option.

Everything was fine for years until the media and liberal polititions found out about them. For mere $30/3 years a person once more had the right to ship and recieve firearms through the mails. Just like it was pre 1968. And believe it or not, when these idiots got going several big time firearms distributers jumped on the bandwagon too.

The distributers felt the small time or 'Hobby' FFL holder was hurting their business. All the people selling out of their garages or spare bedrooms. That was the reason given. The Clinton administration was in power and in a further effort to cut down on the number of FFL holders they wanted a $10,000 yearly fee attached to the license. Happily the NRA and pro-gun lobbies got this whittled down to a $300 initial fee and a $90/3 year renewel.

Before, I ( and other hobby FFL's) was pretty invisible to the State of California. You had the federal 4473 forms and the state supplied 4 part reporting forms for handguns. There were no other requirements. During all this national and federal scrutiny the state got into the act, and stuff flew with wild abandon from Sacramento.

The state also had the anti-assult weapon thing going on. Each week you'd get some letter adding to, changing, or contradicting a letter you got the week before. It was a mess. I did already have a re-sale permit because some distributors required it, but I never filed a return until the last few years after the state required a business license.

....................Buckshot

[Jeffreytooker]

The attractive idea of having a C&R FFL is the dealer breaks some retailers offer. This can be a substantial savings in a years time. It makes you eligible also for many of the dropship programs some offer.


A C&R FFL is different as you're not 'In the business".

What's nice about the FFL permits is that they are "Will Issue" from the BATFE. You file the application and if you meet the requirements, they "WILL' issue the permit, and have no other option.


Buckshot:

I moved my C&R FFL to Tehama County from Kent Washington last month. No hassel. I have not ordered firearms here as yet. It should be the same as Washington. Brown Package Warrior brings it to the door, I sign for it and he goes away. In the six years I had it in Washington (Greater Seattle) no contact no questions or inspections. BATF sent renewal notices, (they wanted more money).

Tehama County is real rural. The county seat (the closest town) is about 20K population and I live 30 miles east up in the hills. The county sheriff is pictured with a number of members of my shooters association on its website.

Jeffrey

[C1PNR]

About all I can add about being a C&R FFL holder in PDRKalifornistan is that long guns just don't seem to be a problem. At least not in 2003 until now.

I had my 03 license in Santa Cruz County and had no hassles. You are not allowed to take direct delivery of handguns, though. Unless, I THINK, you get a special license from the State. I'm not sure about that as I left there a little over a year ago and have not kept up with CA regs.