45 ACP Revolvers

[dale2242]

Are there any current production revolvers in 45 ACP? If so, will they need half moon clips?----dale

[beagle]

There are loads of new and good, used Smith's out there and probably a few Colt M1917s. My favorite's the Ruger Blackhawk convertible .45 ACP/.45 Colt. It don't need half moons and both cartridges shoot really accurate in it./beagle

[imashooter2]

S&W makes Models 22, 25, 625 and 325. All are designed for use with moon clips (full or half). Charter Arms is coming out with a revolver that does not need moons to positively extract the spent cartridges. First examples will be 40 S&W to be followed by .45 ACP.

http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/CARR.html

[Shiloh]

Love the .45 Auto-Rim brass. Does away with the loading and unloading of Moon Clips.
They are a minor inconvenience.

Shiloh

[Bass Ackward]

Probably the best kept secret in shooting is the 45 ACP in a revolver.

Probably the best kept secret in cast bullet shooting is the 45 ACP revolver.

It is the epitome of an efficient cast bullet set-up that meets all needs. Power that's proven for defense or game.

If you need speed for defense or games, the clips are there. If you want load flexibility to shoot or burn almost anything you want from as close to an ideal cast bullet cartridge ever made, the Auto Rim brass is the way to go. Great ignition from pipsqueek to maximum loads

I define efficient in that there is no disadvantage to shooting cast in preference to copper. Much the same as the 30-30 or 35 Remington is for rifles.

[Bret4207]

You won;t see me getting rid of my '17 Smiff anytime soon. 6.0 gr Unique and the BD45 in AR brass make a nice paper punching load. More powder makes it a nice field gun. Full power loads make it a great all around trail gun.

BTW- I added a Wondersight to mine. Makes all the difference in the world!

[ktw]

The Freedom Arms and USFA single action 45 colt revolvers can be purchased with extra 45 ACP cylinders from the factory.

It makes a lot of sense to shoot 45 ACP in them rather than load down 45 Colt for practice. The brass is cheaper and the powder goes a lot further.

-ktw

[wallenba]

I just purchased a real straight shootin' S & W 625JM. Don't forget to get a moonclip reloader, saves time, keeps you in a good mood, as getting them in and out is a b%&#h! And get lots of clips and load them before going out to the range wherever.

[wallenba]

Ain't she purty, I took the stock wood handle off the butt, went with the squishy. The loader/unloader is a CCW product. I bought mine through Dillon Precision, it's the best functioning type I've found.

[softpoint]

I have a 4" and a 5" 625. Two of my favorites. Accurate with cast or jacketed, clips or auto rim, target loads or .45 Supers, I have a 45 convertible blackhawk that has had the ACP cylinder modified to accept Auto Rim brass, still shoots the regular ACP too. I've long thought that if your maximum load requirements could be met with 250 grains at 1000 to 1100 fps. ,the .modern .45 ACP revolver is the most efficient way to get there. Yup, even beats the .44 special (which I like, too)in that respect. And, although I own and enjoy revolvers through the 454 casull, a warm loaded .45 ACP, or loaded to .45 Super specs in Super brass will do 99% of what needs to be done with a handgun, with the exception of very long ranges, or very large critters,IMHO...:grin:

BTW, full moon clips are easier to deal with than the 1/2 moons, and are the best revolver speedloader ever made, IMHO.

[wallenba]

Ditto the best speedloader softpoint. Used to shoot pins, it will cut your time well under a shooter using a conventional speedloader. And picking up MY brass is a snap. No sorting necessary.

[captaint]

Don't see any mention of the S&W model 1955. Have one at home that I have never shot. Niether has anyone else. Nobody lives forever and I'm shootin the darn thing. Thinking I'll get some AR brass & try that. Enjoy Mike

[softpoint]

Don't see any mention of the S&W model 1955. Have one at home that I have never shot. Niether has anyone else. Nobody lives forever and I'm shootin the darn thing. Thinking I'll get some AR brass & try that. Enjoy Mike
I had a model 25, (25-2,If I remember correctly.) It was every bit as accurate as my 625's,if not more. It was either a 6" or 6 1/2, I don't recall. In a moment of insanity years ago I traded it away for a GP100:(

[JW6108]

Don't see any mention of the S&W model 1955. Have one at home that I have never shot. Niether has anyone else. Nobody lives forever and I'm shootin the darn thing. Thinking I'll get some AR brass & try that. Enjoy Mike

I'm afraid that Smith has gotten stale, capt; send it on down to Georgia and I'll see if I can get some use out of it..........:mrgreen:

[captaint]

JW - I had bought this piece when a friend passed away about 10 years ago. His wife just auctioned all his stuff off. Anyway, I took it home & put it in the safe. After all this talk the other day about .45ACP wheelguns I thought "I have one of them but i don't know exactly what model it is". So I take a look & swing the cylinder out and look at the frame and I'm like "my Gawd, this has never been fired". However I'm past the point of keeping these perfect for posterity. I can't take any of it with me, so it's gettin dirty. Hope it shoots well. Think I'll call S&W and see exactly when it was made. It has 5 screws, so maybe in the 50's?? Well see. Enjoy, Mike
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[20nickels]

[QUOTE=softpoint;596742] I have a 45 convertible blackhawk that has had the ACP cylinder modified to accept Auto Rim brass, still shoots the regular ACP too. QUOTE]

Hello,
I have been thinking of doing this. Did you just countersink/recess the chargeholes to accomodate the thick AR rim (kind of like the old S&W's) or did you face off the whole back of the cylinder minus the ratchet? tks.

[Le Loup Solitaire]

The Smith & Wesson Model 25. Its one of the straightest shooting/best grouping guns I own. I feed it cast only; WC's, SWC's and RN's and it delivers performance all the time with either 45ACP or 45 Rims. I don't even bother with half-moonies, altho I have them, as I either pull the ACP's out with a fingernail or poke them out with a short twig. The other "brother" is a 1917 from around War 1 time. It has only 4 digits in the serial #, but is in pristine shape. I took off the original military grips and put a set of N wood grips on it. It shoots to point of sight all day long with the same food that goes into the M25. I keep them very clean and well oiled and no one else ever gets too close to them. LLS

[GLL]

Here are a couple of old S&W 25-2 models ( one 6" & the other is 6 1/2").

I did not wipe them down before the snapshot so oil made the finish look strange !

454423 Group Buy & Cramer #4 in AR brass is their favorite food ! :)

Jerry

http://www.fototime.com/3FA749A6ADD0D1F/orig.jpg

[Uncle R.]

I have an old 25-2 that's a joy to shoot. Very smooth and accurate and not terribly fussy about what you feed it. I agree that full-moon clips are the fastest revolver speedloader by far. I used them in that gun back in my pin shooting days with good results. My load was with the 454190 sized .452 and I'd put a hard roll crimp on the cartridges to bury that case mouth in the groove so it didn't catch on the chamber edges. Kind of a "backwards" way of chamfering the chambers - without cutting on a sweet old gun. A loaded full moon clip would just about jump into the cylinder by itself...
:-D
Those 454190s over a stiff load of powder would smack bowling pins with authority. It was a great pinshooting combination. I don't use the old Smith much any more but that 25-2 is a permanent keeper and has a place in the safe for as long as I last.
:roll:
My 25-2 has the 6-1/2" barrel and I noticed that the blue book shows a premium for 6-1/2" over 6" guns. I'm no S&W expert or collector, but I'm hoping somebody on this board can tell me when the 6-1/2s were made, how rare they are, and why they're (supposedly) worth a premium.
Uncle R.

[sargenv]

I can say that the 6.5" barrels are sought out by USPSA action shooters to graft onto the more modern 625 frames since recently they have only been available in 4 and 5 inch versions. I know someone who uses the 6.5" version as is a master at USPSA Revolver with it. The other barrel (slightly off topic) is the 6.5" model 27 bbl that people these days graft onto 627 - 8 shots for extended sight radius in ICORE action shooting. Same person has one of these 627's with the model 27 bbl on it.

[softpoint]

Hello,
I have been thinking of doing this. Did you just countersink/recess the chargeholes to accomodate the thick AR rim (kind of like the old S&W's) or did you face off the whole back of the cylinder minus the ratchet? tks.[/QUOTE]

My blackhawk just has the cylinder holes counterbored enough to accept the AR rim. It is a 4 5/8" 'hawk. I had the cylinder throats honed out a bit at the same time. First group I shot with it when I brought it home with some loads for my 625's went into 3/8" center to center at 15 yards, shooting offhand! (accident, of course, but the gun does shoot very well !) My 625's and the ruger like around 6 grains of 231 with the Lyman 200 gr.swc. 452460, I believe Another accurate load in all of my revolvers is the Lyman 250 swc either the plain base or the gc version with 13 gr. 2400. This is close to Keith's old load of 14gr. and will kill anything here in Texas. I've done some work with the Lyman 238 gr. swc, which weighs about 245 out of my mold and alloy, and has a larger meplat, this was Lyman's original mold for the AR. It has a short enough nose section that it can be made to work pretty well in the 1911. The downside is that I haven't gotten quite the accuracy out of this bullet so far. Lyman no longer makes this mold.:coffee:

[Thumbcocker]

452460 over 6.0 of 231 has been good to me in several revolvers.

[captaint]

Pardon my ignurence, but does a Smith 45acp cylinder have to be modified to shoot45AR brass?? I was hoping not. Mike

[CRM]

Pardon my ignurence, but does a Smith 45acp cylinder have to be modified to shoot45AR brass?? I was hoping not. Mike

No modification nessary:)

[bowhunter]

Mine is a 1917 smith that was made in 1918.Fire:it shoots like a dream with nei 231gr. And 4.3 gr. Of unique.

[Char-Gar]

A sixgun in 45 ACP/AR is all a man needs. At my house there are;

Two Smith and Wesson 1937 Brazilians
One Smith and Wesson 625
Two Smith and Wesson 1955 Target Models
One Colt 1917
One USFA 45 Colt with a 45 ACP cylinder
One Ruger Blackhwk 45 Colt with 45 ACP cylinder

That should give you some idea of what I think about these sixguns.

Oh Yes, I also have

One SIG P220 in 45 ACP
One Colt Govt. Model in 45 ACP
Two Norinco 1911A1s in 45 acp

[yondering]

Chargar, that ol 45 ACP sucks doesn't it! :mrgreen::mrgreen:

I sure liked my Blackhawk with the 45 ACP cylinder. One trick I found was to keep the ammo in a 1911 mag, and use that for a speedloader. Works great with that single action's cylinder.

[exile]

A question. (I have been told there are no stupid ones.) Do some 25's or 625's shoot 45 Colt and others .45 ACP or will they all shoot both? I have heard both referred to as 25's or 625's. What's the deal? Thanks.

exile

[No_1]

I currently have on my posession two 625's. One is 45 ACP and one is 45 Colt. I cannot swap ammo between them.

Robert


A question. (I have been told there are no stupid ones.) Do some 25's or 625's shoot 45 Colt and others .45 ACP or will they all shoot both? I have heard both referred to as 25's or 625's. What's the deal? Thanks.

exile

[No_1]

I too like the .45!

Robert


A sixgun in 45 ACP/AR is all a man needs. At my house there are;

Two Smith and Wesson 1937 Brazilians
One Smith and Wesson 625
Two Smith and Wesson 1955 Target Models
One Colt 1917
One USFA 45 Colt with a 45 ACP cylinder
One Ruger Blackhwk 45 Colt with 45 ACP cylinder

That should give you some idea of what I think about these sixguns.

Oh Yes, I also have

One SIG P220 in 45 ACP
One Colt Govt. Model in 45 ACP
Two Norinco 1911A1s in 45 acp

[Char-Gar]

I have been loading and shooting handguns for a little over 50 years now and I have found three rounds that just want to shoot well for you. They are very easy to find highly accurate loads for. They are also very useful.

1. The 38 Special round will deliver X-ring accuracy from mild target loads to +P loads and will do 95 percent of what we need a handgun todo.

2. The 45 ACP and Auto Rim rounds also will deliver peak accuracy throughout the velocity range and are easy to load for. In a good stout sixgun a 240 grain SWC can zip along at 1000 to 1150 fps with ease and smack down deer with the best of them.

3. The 44 Magnum is like unto the two above. Top notch accuracy through the velocity range, easy to load for and plenty ofsmack for the bigger choirs.

There are just some rounds that work and others that are a bigger problem than they are worth.

These three plus a good 22 rimfire are all and more a man needs and there is plenty of overlap in their usefull ness.

[coat]

I think smith wesson 625 is the best smith i have ever shot. with acp or auto rim brass. the only down side is has to have a hard cast bullet to shoot well. Light recoil X-ring accuracy and lots for fun. i have had one now for five or six years now I use it LOT

[theperfessor]

exile -

The 25 is a blued N frame. The 625 is a stainless N frame. To the best of my knowledge both have been offered at various times in .45 ACP/AR & .45 Colt but ammo not interchangeable.

[HATCH]

I have owned several 45 revolvers over the years.
I love them. In fact I took my CWP class using a 5 inch 625.
I had my moon clips loaded 5 shots a clip and had 10 clips ready to go when I showed up.
The instructor said I did my ammo changeout faster then 3/4 of the auto guys
I am down to just 1 45 acp revolver and I have only taken it to the range one time

3 inch 625
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v506/DrugRunR/625%203%20inch/pix1078163125.jpg

I have since installed night sights and had a action job done on it.

[45nut]

A sixgun in 45 ACP/AR is all a man needs. At my house there are;

Two Smith and Wesson 1937 Brazilians
One Smith and Wesson 625
Two Smith and Wesson 1955 Target Models
One Colt 1917
One USFA 45 Colt with a 45 ACP cylinder
One Ruger Blackhwk 45 Colt with 45 ACP cylinder

That should give you some idea of what I think about these sixguns.

Oh Yes, I also have

One SIG P220 in 45 ACP
One Colt Govt. Model in 45 ACP
Two Norinco 1911A1s in 45 acp

I get the idea I am not the only 45nut on the board! :kidding:

[KCSO]

Started with a Ruger, went to a 1950 Target,Webley, Colt SAA and am now shooting a M22 Smith, but I would never be without a 45 ACP revolver. The Lee 250 grain RNFP is a real winner in the M22, dead center poa at 25 with groups of under 2" from the bench. 4.2 of Bullseye makes a great load.

[sundog]

Moon clip..., fastest speed loader ever made!

[Dale53]

As should be well known on here, by now, I am an enthusiastic user of S&W 625's. I have a 625-6 Model of 1989 with 5" barrel and a 625-8 Jerry Miculek Special 4". I have Simmons Red Dots on both. Here is a picture of my 625-6:

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj80/Dale53/QDalesRevolversandPistols-1720.jpg

Here is a "not uncommon" target:

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj80/Dale53/625-65-28-2008.jpg

This was fired standing at 25 yards.

I mostly shoot target loads with these revolvers (4.0 grs of Bullseye or equivalent behind an H&G #68 or H&G #130 SWC). They will shoot well under 1" at 25 yards. They are two of the most satisfying revolvers I have ever owned.

Dale53

[sundog]

Dale, you could at least make a sight adjust. Sheesh.

[Catshooter]

Chargr,

The longer I live the more I think you're right: a .45 sixgun is all a man needs.

I do like some of the autos also. I even like my American Derringer in .45 ACP/AR. Lightest .45 I own. Fits in a front pocket right nice.


Cat

[Four Fingers of Death]

There are also the Ruger Blackhawk Convertible revolvers. I had a match pair until recently, they shot good, but the ACP didn't seem to work well unless moving along right smartly.

[StarMetal]

Dale, you could at least make a sight adjust. Sheesh.


Now that's down right hilarious!!!

Joe

[Hunter 24095]

Does any one have any experience with the 325 night guard? I came across one at the gun show Sat and was thinking of getting it but haven't talked to any one who has one and would like to know how they shoot before I find out the expensive way.

[GLL]

This S&W 625-4 "Pre-mountain Gun" is another of my favorites !

It gets a diet of .45AR as well ! :)

Jerry

http://www.fototime.com/4D8D1A87BE92634/orig.jpg

[MtGun44]

As to the ammo interchangability question.

The .45 ACP and .45 Colt will not interchange without a different cylinder. So my 1937
Brazilian contract S&W is always a .45ACP, but my Ruger NMBH has a .45 Colt cyl and
a .45 ACP cyl so it can use both types of ammo.

Bill

[Dale53]

GLL;
That is a VERY nice "Pre-Mountain Gun" and a VERY nice picture, also. Nice work!

Dale53

[Stove_Pipe]

The origional.
[smilie=1:


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[StrawHat]

I am also a fan of the S&W 45 caliber revolver, with one exception, it is the only caliber I have in the N frame. I have revolvers chambered for both the 45 ACP/45 AR and the 45 Colt. My favorite being the 4" 45 ACP/AR.

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc194/StrawHat/Model25family007.jpg

I built that one from a S&W M28-2 back in the late 70s or early 80s, after S&W ceased production of the 1950 and prior to the introduction of the Mountain Revolvers.

I notice a lot of different boolits being mentioned for the ACP/AR from 200 to 250 grains.

Anyone else use a full wadcutter boolit? Mine is the Saceo 453 that throws a 238 grain boolit. Nice meplat and as accurate as I can hold.

[Dale53]

A good friend of mine (a poster on here, also) recently loaned me a full wadcutter mould from NEI. I have cast a few bullets from it but have yet to try them. I am a fan of full wadcutters in the .32's and .38's. I'm not sure I want to become a fan of a full wadcutter in the .45 Auto Rim. That would mean I would have to buy ANOTHER mould:roll:. Presently, I am waiting on TWO moulds to be delivered and am considering ANOTHER! Is there no end to this?:confused:

Oh, and there are at least two other bullet designs that I hunger after...

I had fewer "problems" when I was young and was chasing women... (Well, maybe...[smilie=1:)

Dale53

[Four Fingers of Death]

That would mean I would have to buy ANOTHER mould:roll:. Presently, I am waiting on TWO moulds to be delivered and am considering ANOTHER! Is there no end to this?:confused:

Dale53

I think the answer to that question is no. Sorry about that.

[Cannoneer]

The Colt New Service, M1909 in .45 Colt was Modified to use the .45 Auto with 1/2 moon clips and was redesignated the M1917. I owned one back in the early 1970's but sold it to get a Smith M1917. I owned two more S&W M1917's over the years but finally settled on the M625 with a four inch tube as my premeir .45 Auto/Auto Rim revolver. I use Remington Brass and .455 Elly loading data with heavy bullets. They shoot very accurately with 250 to 265 grain bullets as well as the standard cast lead WC's SWC's designed for the .45 Auto in the 185 to 230 grain range.

This gun will do anything the .44 Special will do with a bigger bullet. The only gun I wish I had is the New S&W Retro M1917 to see if that can shoot as well.

[Pepe Ray]

Being an admirer of the 45 cal in general and the 45ACP in particular it must follow that the S&W m25's &625's also shine.
Many of the posts whining about the difficulty of loading/unloading ACP cases in a clip, full moon,1/2 moon or 1/3 moon, have given me a few chuckles. I made my first demooner from a piece of scrap copper water tubing. It speeds up my reloading between matches but I can still do it with my leatherman.
My curiosity about the new RIMZ cartridge clips prompted a close reading of the advertising literature and gun rag evaluations. Finally I took the bait. Because my neighbor has a 625-4 and I a 625-3, I ordered both the 625 and the 25 as suggested was necessary.

Didn't I see a post by Dale53 about using these?
Did Dale need to try both models? Or anyone posting here?

I've always been very satisfied with the Ranch Products clips.

Yes, I like and use 45AR cases for loads that are marginal in Colt pistols. I feel more complete with a stock of ammo suitable for both arms.

Any comments about the RIMZ?
Pepe Ray

[Char-Gar]

Pepe... On of the first things a grown up discovers is life is made up of little tasks, nusances and bothers. They are not worth whining or complaining about as they are part of the landscape of life. Loading and unloading half moon or full moon clips fall into the above observation about living life as an adult.

Folks should save their angst for when the Doctors sits accross for them and says... "I hate to tell you this, but....". When that happens, they will glady exchange today for the day when loading and unloading clips was the major concern.

Anyday you can get out of bad unaided, walk to the bathroom without assistance, see your self in the mirror, smell the coffe and hear the morning news on the TV, is a wonderful day and a gift from God to be enjoyed without screwing with all of the petty angst stuff.

[Dale53]

PepeRay;
Yes, I have posted several times about using RIMZ clips. I use RIMZ clips almost exclusively for range use when I am shooting .45 ACP loads. They are available here:

http://www.ezmoonclip.com/

I haven't worn one out, yet although I guess it is possible.

If you want to use steel full moon clips then you will need a re and de mooner. I prefer the California Competition de-mooner as it will remove two cases at once (the pliers type) and costs only $17.00:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=712792

The best REMOONER I have found is the "Deluxe Moon Clip Tool":

http://www.mooncliptool.com/

It is machined from Aluminum and looks to be a tool suitable for a couple of lifetimes. It will both moon and demoon.

I like having both tools at my disposal.

Then, of course, is also the option available of using Starline Auto Rim cases. That is what I am mostly doing these days.

Dale53

[Pepe Ray]

Hmmmm-yes Chargar. Amen to that. BTDT=3 'T' shirts.

Dale, I've deduced that you appreciate the tools made for ACP loading. Did you find it necessary to acquire both of the RIMZ designs offered?
I'm trying to be discreet. Avoiding any question that may reveal how many 625's you have. But I find it difficult to do.

I feel that I've been duped into buying something I don't need. It's my opinion that honesty in advertising shouldn't require an inquisition by the purchaser to obtain all the pertinent facts. I was hoping that your experience with the RIMZ product(s) may cast some light on my situation. Is there anything that you would have done differently?
Thanks,
Pepe Ray

[azrednek]

I get the idea I am not the only 45nut on the board! :kidding:

45 is King in my house as well. Two Brazilian. 1955 Target, Ruger Blackhawk convertible and two autos. I was in the business in the late 80's when the Brazilian S&W's were showing up. My cost in lots of a dozen were less than 90 a piece. I cherry picked two for myself but wish I had kept a few more.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/dnisbet/a-1917-2.jpg

The Saeco 225 WC and the Lyman 452191 on top of 4.0grs of Bullseye are my best shooters.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/dnisbet/crimp-1.gif

[bob208]

i keep a 1937 model in the night stand loaded and a bunch of extra full moon clips for just in case.

[Dale53]

PepeRay;
No, I only bought the ones for my 625-6 and 625-8 (they both use the same RIMZ clips).

The problem is the "ratchet" on the early Smiths was larger in diameter. So, to clear this larger ratchet, RIMZ wisely decided to offer two different clips.

I have heard that you MAY be able to alter one of them to fit the other (but I don't know which one) but even so, I would buy the ones that fit the revolvers in question.

Polymer is not as strong as steel, so "one size fits all" would not be the proper way to proceed. THAT is why there are two different sizes.

Dale53

[calaverasslim]

S&W makes Models 22, 25, 625 and 325. All are designed for use with moon clips (full or half). Charter Arms is coming out with a revolver that does not need moons to positively extract the spent cartridges. First examples will be 40 S&W to be followed by .45 ACP.

http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/CARR.html




Lordy, how did I miss these? I sure hope the quality on the CA's are up to snuff. I love the 45acp in my Smiff. Don't like messing wid the clips tho. So, generally I use AR's.

[Joni Lynn]

45acp is one of my favorite rounds and I have at least one revolver in that caliber.
If anyone is interested there are a pistolsmith or two that will do a moonclip conversion on a 45 Colt cylinder which will allow use of 45 Colt just as before and 45acp in full moon clips thus giving you a bit more versitility. I haven't had this done on one yet and don't know what the acp accuracy might be with the Colt length chambers.
Great thread and lots of good info on this one, thanks to all.

[azrednek]

i keep a 1937 model in the night stand loaded and a bunch of extra full moon clips for just in case.

One of my 1937's was my car gun for over 10 years. Back when they were a dime a dozen I figured if it was stolen I wouldn't be out big bux. It has been replaced by a low cost Rossi 357 and my Brazilians are now kept in my vault.

[azrednek]

A good friend of mine (a poster on here, also) recently loaned me a full wadcutter mould from NEI. I have cast a few bullets from it but have yet to try them. I am a fan of full wadcutters in the .32's and .38's. I'm not sure I want to become a fan of a full wadcutter in the .45 Auto Rim. That would mean I would have to buy ANOTHER mould:roll:. Presently, I am waiting on TWO moulds to be delivered and am considering ANOTHER! Is there no end to this?:confused:

Oh, and there are at least two other bullet designs that I hunger after...

I had fewer "problems" when I was young and was chasing women... (Well, maybe...[smilie=1:)

Dale53

Dale the nice thing about full wad cutters in 45 are the nice big clean holes can be seen on the target at a good distance without a scope or binoculars. Don't know about NEI's version, I really like my 225gr Saeco. Super accurate on top of 4.0grs of Bullseye or a real man stopper on top of 5.0 grs. I've also had some decent results on paper with a discontinued 185gr Lee full wad cutter with light loads of Bullseye.

Its alright to buy ANOTHER, you're correct, there is no end to this and it is perfectly fine to be confused about which mold to buy next.

[Catshooter]

Joni Lynn,

Hey, nice to see you here! Welcome to the forum, it's a great place, you'll fit right in.


Cat

[EDK]

A full wad cutter in 44 or 45 makes a d*** big and highly visible hole in almost anything. I've got group buy moulds for 200 and 250 grain 44 wadcutters...as if a 44 needed help in the horsepower department.

Maybe we need to get a group buy going for a 200 to 250 grain full wadcutter for "all those 45 S&W revolvers feeling neglected" by not having that superior boolit in a NOE or MI-HEC or OLD WEST design. A 4 cavity SAECO is a little pricey and delivery time could be better.

:Fire::cbpour::redneck: