homemade for you bottom pour fans!

[moptop]

Here is a project that I've been working on. A homemade bottom pour casting pot made from all scrap parts. I'm going to use a dimmer control that I installed a heavier current capable triac in to handle the wattage of the element I'm using. The valve was the easy part. I just drilled a hole in a bolt and mounted it in the bottom of the pot. I ground a long bolt to a tapered point to use for the stopper. I tested it with water and it does stop the flow so I guess it will work with lead too.

...and yes, I know the first thing most of you will say is that "the pour spout is too far under the unit and not close enough to the front". Well what can I say, design flaw on my part. I'm just the Sears repairman, not an engineer! (thank God):-D

I still have to install the element & control parts and design some kind of flow control & handle for the valve.

Will let you all know when I get it finished and how it works.

[over the hill gang]

looks good , keep us posted on how it works and what you are using for heating element

[lead Foot]

Impressive lookin' Rig Mop Top. Wouldn't be long before you get some orders coming in. It would be good to see in action.
Lead foot;

[dromia]

Looks good.

Centre pour will only be a problem if the reach under the pot is too long for the handles methinks.

Looking forward to a detailed "how to".

[moptop]

Thanks all for the input everyone. Yes, I realized I should have put the pour spout closer to the front but I already had the hole drilled and the valve mounted before I started putting it together. I wanted to see if I could make a working valve before I continued with the rest of it. I guess R & D is not one of my strong points!:roll:

[Echo]

But the NEXT one you make will have the spout nearer the front, I'll wager.

And when you start making them for your chums here on the web site, you will be serving some of the finest folk anywhere.

[runfiverun]

look at the lee 10 lb pot for a linkage to sorta kinda copy

[JSnover]

Yeah, it looks a little crowded underneath but it should be easier to stand it up a little taller. Just use longer studs, right? Nice job.

[jsizemore]

Ain't too late to drill another hole and plug the old one.

[Firebird]

Arrange for more weight to bear on that valve rod. Steel may sink in water so it sealed ok in your test, but steel FLOATS in lead so you need a weight out of the lead to get that valve to close.

[quasi]

is that a stainless bowl? they are known to fail after a while.

[moptop]

is that a stainless bowl? they are known to fail after a while.

Quasi, yes, it's a stainless mixing bowl. I'm not too worried about it. The one that I'm currently using is also made with a stainless bowl and its been chugging along for the over a year now with no signs of any problems.

If you look hard enough you'll find as many folks who say it's okay to use as you will ones who say not to... and that's okay. Everyone is entitled to there opinion on how they operate. I've learned a little patients and common sense goes a long way in this hobby. I even use an aluminium pot to "smelt" in, which by some folks standards is a "cardinal sin" but I've never had any problem, probibly becasue I make sure the bottom is well supported and I don't over load it.

[docone31]

Only big Issue I see,
The spout is too thin.
Make the spout real thick. That way it will hold the heat better through the pour. You could thread a thick nut on it. Just to add as an heat sinc, and buffer.
Looks good so far.

[Springfield]

If he moves the spout farther forward the spout will aim forward and not straight down.

[Baryngyl]

Quasi, yes, it's a stainless mixing bowl. I'm not too worried about it. The one that I'm currently using is also made with a stainless bowl and its been chugging along for the over a year now with no signs of any problems.

If you look hard enough you'll find as many folks who say it's okay to use as you will ones who say not to... and that's okay. Everyone is entitled to there opinion on how they operate. I've learned a little patients and common sense goes a long way in this hobby. I even use an aluminium pot to "smelt" in, which by some folks standards is a "cardinal sin" but I've never had any problem, probibly becasue I make sure the bottom is well supported and I don't over load it.

I was using a stainless steel stockpot and it worked great for over a year but the repeated heating/cooling cycle seems to have crystallized the steel and weakened it.
The last time I went to use it, it started leaking as soon as it started melting.
Take a look at these pics.
http://money-web.com/forumpics/lmp/lead%20melting%20potl%2006S.jpg
http://money-web.com/forumpics/lmp/lead%20melting%20potl%2007S.jpg
http://money-web.com/forumpics/lmp/lead%20melting%20potl%2008S.jpg
http://money-web.com/forumpics/lmp/lead%20melting%20potl%2009S.jpg
http://money-web.com/forumpics/lmp/lead%20melting%20potl%2010S.jpg
http://money-web.com/forumpics/lmp/lead%20melting%20potl%2011S.jpg
http://money-web.com/forumpics/lmp/lead%20melting%20potl%2012S.jpg
http://money-web.com/forumpics/lmp/lead%20melting%20potl%2013S.jpg
http://money-web.com/forumpics/lmp/lead%20melting%20potl%2014S.jpg

[Baryngyl]

More pictures.

http://money-web.com/forumpics/lmp/lead%20melting%20potl%2015S.jpg
http://money-web.com/forumpics/lmp/lead%20melting%20potl%2016S.jpg
http://money-web.com/forumpics/lmp/lead%20melting%20potl%2017S.jpg
http://money-web.com/forumpics/lmp/lead%20melting%20potl%2018S.jpg
http://money-web.com/forumpics/lmp/lead%20melting%20potl%2019S.jpg

[armyrat1970]

More pictures.

http://money-web.com/forumpics/lmp/lead%20melting%20potl%2015S.jpg
http://money-web.com/forumpics/lmp/lead%20melting%20potl%2016S.jpg
http://money-web.com/forumpics/lmp/lead%20melting%20potl%2017S.jpg
http://money-web.com/forumpics/lmp/lead%20melting%20potl%2018S.jpg
http://money-web.com/forumpics/lmp/lead%20melting%20potl%2019S.jpg

You must not care to much for the finish of your car to lay that on the hood like that?

[dominicfortune00]

Nice Polara wagon in the background.

Don't see to many of those around these days.

[RP]

ss comes in several grades that pot looks like the cheap ones you find at discount stores buy three stock pots for 9.95

[303Guy]

There are heat resistant stainless steel out there. Mixing boals are not made from them. I wouldn't use stainless over a flame.

The problem with using aluminium as a smelting pot is that should it over heat, it will fail catastrophically and drop molten lead all over your stove or burner!

[Ugluk]

A lot of modern ss cooking pots seem to have a bottom made of sandwiched layers of aluminium and stainless steel to improve heat distribution. I'm guessing the failed one was one of these?

[TAWILDCATT]

ugluk: I think you have it that thing peeled.a good heavy one wont.got to be one piece.
I will stick with my lee.had a lyman 20lber and it was made of aluminum.it melted thru.lyman sold me a new style at cost.thats the type they have now.I think lyman and RCBS get their pots from same place.