Starting a small game gun

[dubber123]

Here is the start of my small game gun;
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh83/dubber123/IMG_3125.jpg
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh83/dubber123/IMG_3129.jpg

It's an old H&R action, and the Ctg. is the one in the middle, it's a .38 S&W run into a .30 Luger sizer, it makes a rimmed cartridge, which should work easier with the extractor.

[2Tite]

Cool..........Keep us up to date with information and lots of pictures. I'm starting one soon as well. I hadn't thought about a wildcat case...............mmmm.

[leftiye]

I'm opting for a 32-20. And a 25-20. Already got a .357 Max..

[dubber123]

I'm opting for a 32-20. And a 25-20. Already got a .357 Max..

I had thought of a 32-20, but I already have a 32-20 Marlin that shoots VERY well. I really wanted a tiny case. If there is room for more powder, I tend to want to put it in..[smilie=1:

The 32 S&W, and 32 S&W Long were also in the running. The steel in this old H&R action is about 3 on the Rockwell scale :roll:, so I don't want to push it.

[Catshooter]

Tell us about the cartridge please.


Cat

[dubber123]

Tell us about the cartridge please.


Cat

Well, I just measured a 9mm, (same case head as .30 Luger), and one of my .38 S&W's. My examples are within .001" or so. The length is very close also. I just plan on running the .38 S&W into the .30 Luger, giving me a very short, bottleneck case, in .30 cal., with a rim for the single shot action.

The one I have in the pic was kind of cobbled together, and the neck is a little longer than it will be. It has a RCBS 98 gr. SWC in it.

[Nobade]

Another cartridge that works well for this is a 38 spl run into a 7.62X25 tokerev die. I like it 'cause 38 spl. brass is a lot cheaper than 38 S&W, and you get a nice long neck to hold the bullet well.

[NoDakJak]

Definetly an interesting project! Both rifle and cartridge. Keep us posted on your progress. Neil

[dk17hmr]

Is that a "Handy Gun"? Its going to be a pistol right?

[KCSO]

Don't forget to bush the firing pin hole and make a smaller firing pin. As is they will back out into the firing pin hole. I made one up for a buddy in 218 bee and it is a dandy.

[John Boy]

The Rifle H&R Never Knew They Made (http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/index.php/topic,116149.0.html)

[dubber123]

Is that a "Handy Gun"? Its going to be a pistol right?

Very good Doug, you're close. It's the same era as the Handy Gun, but isn't stamped as one. I think it's a model 1905, or 1915. H&R made these with very short barels as an option, like 8-1/2" or 12". This was a shorty, and the shop that had it destroyed the barrel for legal reasons.

I have to re-work the tang, but it will be a conventional rear stock. I already have the blank. The way it's shaped now, it looks like it could have had either the buttstock, or the pistol grip like the Handy Gun.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh83/dubber123/IMG_3123.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh83/dubber123/IMG_3133.jpg

Here is the origional, and the replacement stock.

[dubber123]

Don't forget to bush the firing pin hole and make a smaller firing pin. As is they will back out into the firing pin hole. I made one up for a buddy in 218 bee and it is a dandy.

Yeah, the pin hole looks to be on the generous side.[smilie=1: I didn't figure a hardened bushing would be a bad idea anyways. I ordered the barrel blank, and dies today, so maybe I will have some lathe work for next weekend.

[dubber123]

The Rifle H&R Never Knew They Made (http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/index.php/topic,116149.0.html)

Nice work! My brother has a newer Handi that we may re do into something a little more interesting.