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Silicon Wolverine
03-15-2009, 08:42 PM
im lookig for a mold that approxamates the same profile as a 30 cal FMJBT military bullet for my 308. i have a CETME that wont feed anything but stnadard profile bullets. i have a couple lee molds in the 150-160 gran range that work good but they wont feed, the bullet is too blunt. any help?

SW

codgerville@zianet.com
03-15-2009, 08:48 PM
Lyman's 311413 would probably be as close as you could get. It is no longer in production, but I see used ones advertised from time to time.

GrizzLeeBear
03-15-2009, 08:51 PM
What about the Lee C312-155 or 160, they're pretty "pointy"?

94Doug
03-15-2009, 10:34 PM
...or a used 311414.

fatnhappy
03-15-2009, 11:31 PM
or a 311334.

May I suggest you haunt gunbroker, auction arms and God forbid....ebay.

garandsrus
03-15-2009, 11:54 PM
I think that 311329 is about as exact a copy as you are going to find for a ball bullet look alike. I have a mold and it shoots great.

Check the CastPics site (http://www.castpics.net)for pictures of the Lyman molds

John

GabbyM
03-16-2009, 12:43 AM
You may try the 311672 from Lyman.
That's a 45 colt slug leaning on it.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/picture.php?albumid=32&pictureid=458

Mallard57
03-16-2009, 10:50 AM
I would think that the RCBS 165 gr. boolit would work, I'll be trying it in my FAL. Wow, just went to the RCBS website and that mould isn't even listed. I would think you could find it at one of the different auction sites.
Jeff

Ben
03-16-2009, 11:30 AM
They aren't easy to find but Aladin's , Lee single cav., .30 cal. HBC, 210 gr. spire pt. is very close to what you're describing :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/IMG_1343.jpg

atr
03-16-2009, 11:53 AM
Lyman #311413 is 169 gr spitzer.....I use it alot in both my 30-06 and .308Win....seems to like the 1-10 twist in my 06 better than the 1-12 in the .308...
I have targets posted at another location on this site....you might want to check them out.

Silicon Wolverine
03-18-2009, 05:55 PM
They aren't easy to find but Aladin's , Lee single cav., .30 cal. HBC, 210 gr. spire pt. is very close to what you're describing :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/IMG_1343.jpg

thats exactly the profile im after, but it needs to be 150-160 grs to match the rifling twist in ym CETME. ive shot 200 gr bullets out of it and its groups like a shotgun.

SW

Larry Gibson
03-18-2009, 07:56 PM
thats exactly the profile im after, but it needs to be 150-160 grs to match the rifling twist in ym CETME. ive shot 200 gr bullets out of it and its groups like a shotgun.SW

The problem you're going to run into is a cast bullet of the profile of a 145-147 FMJBT (probably 155-160 gr cast) is that it will have a much shorter bearing surface that the HBC 210 gr bullet pictured. 311397 or 311413 are the bullets you're looking for. Both of them have a notorious reputation for poor accuracy above 1800 fps. You will probably need more velocity and hence pressure to function the CETME action. Hence the problem with a cast bullet that light having a short bearing surface and a long pointy non-bore riding nose.

I'll recommend a 311299 which is a 200 gr bullet which will shoot well in 12" twists which is what your CETME should be. I have used that bullet with medium and slow burning powders to get sufficient recoil impulse to function G3s which is essentially and improved CETME. Feeding in the G3s was not a problem. Velocities were in the 2000+ range and accuracy equaled the best of M80 ball.

Larry Gibson

Note in the thread asking about 311413 that all those loads are very mild loads under 1800 fps and none of them have the recol impulse to function your CETME.

Ben
03-18-2009, 08:27 PM
I'm with Larry on his comments. A 147 gr. cast bullet with a nose profile like the 210 gr. HBC bullet would have such a small amount of bearing surface with the groove of the barrel as to guarantee dismal performance. Too much nose and not enough bearing surface contact with the bore.

Randall
03-19-2009, 10:15 AM
I think I have an old Ideal single cavity that may be what you are wanting.

Randall
03-19-2009, 03:43 PM
I found the mould. It is ann Ideal 308329,a sample cast weighs 185 gr.

revolver junkie
03-19-2009, 09:21 PM
NEI has a mould thats very close #51 .308 155 GC theres also a 190 in there that looks pretty tempting

just my 2cents
RJ