What are you paying for primers?

[Ron B.]

Sunday
March 8, 2009

I'm certain a lot of you folks are like me; suddenly realizing your supply of primers is getting low, and wondering where you are going to find more, since every Internet site is sold out. MidWay is not even accepting backorders.

This past Friday, I'd stopped by my local Big R store; visiting their sporting goods area. I noticed they had Federal Large Magnum Pistol primers on sale for $1.75 per hundred. So, I bought all they had left; 3 bricks, or 3000 primers. Yesterday, I stopped back in; noticing more Federals. But these were not on sale. I once again purchased all this store had. My wife and I went to Pueblo later that morning. All the gun stores were sold out of primers. I suddenly recalled there was a Big R in town; and went there. Over a two day period, I ended up with over $750 invested in primers. I know I paid too much. But, did I?

Here's what I paid:
Win Small Pistol $3.09 per hundred
Win Small Mag Pistol $3.22 per hundred
Win Large Mag Rifle $3.39 per hundred

CCI Small Pistol $3.09 per hundred

Federal Small Mag Pistol $2.02 per hundred
Federal Large Pistol $2.63 per hundred
Federal Large Mag. Pistol $1.75 per hundred
Federal Large Rifle $3.03 per hundred
Federal Large Mag Rifle $2.63 per hundred

[zampilot]

Primers around here, if you can find them, are anywhere from $29/1000 Remington rifles to $33+/1000 Federal rifle.

[Bubba w/a 45/70]

NO, you did not pay too much. Even if you can find Win. primers in any amount here, they will cost you at least $3.49 per hundred; no breaks on 1,000 lots anymore. CCI seem to be the only ones that are left in any amount and even they are getting harder to find in the stores.


North Dakota (locaton)

[imashooter2]

Shyda's in central PA February 28th. Winchester large pistol $23.99 per K with a $4 break on a sleeve. They had Winchester, CCI and Federal. All sizes, as many as you wanted. Don't recall the prices on the rest, but none of them started with a 3.

[Baron von Trollwhack]

Saturday in Richmond, Va. WSR were $28.95 + sales tax per K, CCI BR SR were $41. 95 + tax.

BvT

[BruceB]

I tried to make a point on the earlier thread about wheelweight prices. It seems that I failed to make my position sufficiently clear, at least to some people.

On this thread, I see primer prices quoted that run from about $20 per thousand to something over $40. That's a big spread, and I suspect that the lower prices are found at HONORABLE merchants who are selling older stock at the original price, and not re-pricing to take advantage of the situation.

The point I want to make is this, whether it concerns alloy, primers, cases or powder:

What it costs today is one thing, but what are the components going to be worth to us when there are NONE AVAILABLE????? I'd much rather pay a bit "too much" now, and have the components on hand, than have to embark on a search sometime in the future when there is NOTHING in the stores.

So I pay $30 for a thousand sparkplugs today, and maybe sometime in the future the price drops to $20 (unlikely, but...). So what? What have I lost? ONE CENT per round, but in the meantime I've had the means to load ONE THOUSAND rounds of ammunition. If primer supplies vanish, or the price skyrockets, then buying them in advance served me well.

The things available now, even at inflated prices, could very well be priceless if the situation worsens. I recommend laying-in a decent supply of everything, and then being prepared to strictly ration ourselves as to consumption if worse comes to worst. There will be no way of knowing just how long the period of scarcity will be.

We don't need a bunker-full of components, but I think that a reduced-consumption supply for a couple of years would be prudent. Also, for us bullet-casters in particular, some components will serve for several uses. Pistol primers and quicker-burning powders do very well with our cast projectiles in rifles. This greatly reduces the number of items we "need", in order to keep shooting in times of shortage.

Again, I'd rather pay $40 for a thousand primers NOW, than be unable to find them at any price in the future.

[Throckmorton]

Hate to admit it,but they've got me where they want me..IF I find ANY primers..which I cannot around here.....I'll pay what they ask,shoot less centerfire,and keep buying .22 lr rounds.
Speaking of .22lr rounds,they are disappearing fast too as folks realize that centerfire is getting harder and harder to get. :( grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Ron B.]

You know what Guys & Gals?
I'm usually not one to blame the government, like so many do. But whom do you know who has the power to buy every single item any company sells? And, doing so under contracts which, may run for years?

Something's going on here; we all know it. Certainly panic buying has something to do with it also. But, how can we, the consumer buy if there's nothing out there? According to all the retailers I've spoken to their suppliers are telling them no idea when a lot of reloading components/centerfire ammo will be available again. Personally, I believe we've only begun.

[Storydude]

I want to know if there is a "Primer shortage" then why are my store's shelves ull of CCI, Win Wolf and Federal AND CCI just laid off 100 people?

Western NY, 27.99/1K small 28.9/1K Large matters not what brand. BR and Magnums are 1-5 bucks more per 1K depending on brand.

[wonderwolf]

Primers over the weekend at a local gun show have almost doubled in price since last month. I think its the dealers doing massive mark ups. Going to talk to one of my guys who sells stuff without trying to make a profit and see what prices he has. I'm running low on LR primers and Small pistol so its time to restock and lay up a good surplus as well because I don't want to get caught without any primers at all.

[Jbar4Ranch]

If you think things are bad where you are, check THIS (http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=123548105) out.

ONE brick of 1000 Federal F215's went for $170, plus $10 shipping, plus $22.50 hazmat... $202.50, delivered, for a thousand primers. :shock:

Friday, the local Sportsman's Warehouse had 5 boxes of Federal large magnum pistol primers, 1 box of Federal GM large magnum pistol primers, and maybe 10,000 209 shotshell primers. Six hundred non-shotshell primers, that's it.

[Idaho_Elk_Huntr]

I bought 8000 primers last weekend, federal 215's 210 gm and Winchester large rifle For less than $170 including tax

[Idaho_Elk_Huntr]

If you think things are bad where you are, check THIS (http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=123548105) out.

ONE brick of 1000 Federal F215's went for $170, plus $10 shipping, plus $22.50 hazmat... $202.50, delivered, for a thousand primers. :shock:



There wasnt a hazmat involved in that deal and I bet the primers were shipped through USPS.

[UweJ]

Here in Germany the prices also went up steadily. They now range from $30 to $37 per brick.There is no real shortage but the dealers are not stocking up the way they used to.Hazmat laws require them to higher safety standards and lots of them just don´t want the hassle.
Uwe

[Jbar4Ranch]

Hazmat wasn't mentioned in the deal anyway...

OK, so at least $180, shipped. And they weren't even current production, they're in the old red & black boxes from a few years back.

[targetshootr]

I'm pretty sure it's retailers taking advantage of their customers. As I said in another thread, a local wholesaler still has WLPs in stock for $22/1000. You have to be a member of a range to get them at that price though. Point being, that's the same price they were charging last year.

[Ron B.]

Natchez Supply had CCI primers on sale a month or so ago. Then I paid less than $20 a thousand. It now seems such a long time ago. Natchez Supply is out; their list now showing around $25 PM for the same primers. Once, I bought all my primers from Wisener's. They no longer have any.

GRB

[WildmanJack]

i bought 8000 LP Winchesters a couple of weeks ago. first 3000 were $30.00 a box, the next 5000 I got for $25.00 per thousand. I thought that was pretty good.
Jack

[Kraschenbirn]

Essentially, I'm not. Restocked all my "shorts" from Graf's last fall (Win LR and LP @ $24/1000) and estimate, at my rate of consumption, I have close to a 5-year supply on hand.

Was in our (only!) local gunshop last Saturday...checking for any "new arrival" old milsurps...and found only a few boxes (100s) of CCI and WW on shelves. I've been a customer for years and owner knows I'm set up for volume reloading (and something of a packrat[smilie=1:). Waved me over to one side and asked if I had any Federal (primers) I'd be willing to trade. "For What?" says I, and he offered me $25 a carton (1000) trade against any used gun in the rack. Needless to say, I passed on the offer.

Bill

[corvette8n]

I was buying CCI small rifle military primers from a gunstore about 30 miles fom me for 17.95/thousand, last month he got a new batch in and he now charges 35.00/thousand. Supply and demand.:(

[cb4017]

Just ordered 10K Wolf LP primers for $244 delivered.
Heck, I was glad to get that. Primers are not available in the local gun shops.

[Shiloh]

If you think things are bad where you are, check THIS (http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=123548105) out.

ONE brick of 1000 Federal F215's went for $170, plus $10 shipping, plus $22.50 hazmat... $202.50, delivered, for a thousand primers. :shock:

Friday, the local Sportsman's Warehouse had 5 boxes of Federal large magnum pistol primers, 1 box of Federal GM large magnum pistol primers, and maybe 10,000 209 shotshell primers. Six hundred non-shotshell primers, that's it.

Incredible !!

I would like to have seen the bid history. It isn't listed.

Shiloh

[buck1]

Nothing! Its dry here.

[jcunclejoe]

Let's do something about it.
Does anyone know a venture capitalist?
I am a tooling designer, I worked for Nosler bullets for 6 years, I'm pretty sure I can design primer cup and anvil making tooling and machines. Then all we need is a chemist and the production machinery. The NRA put out a book many years ago detailing the entire ammunition making process.
I bet the payback would be less than 6 months on the equipment.
Something to think about.
Joe

[exile]

I bought 2000 primers today (CCI small and large pistol) at $ 26.95 a thousand. Also 4lb. can of Unique and 1lb. can of Titegroup, plus a box of Hornady 85 grain XTP's for my .327 Federal. Needless to say I am thankful and was surprised that they had anything in stock. I had called four or five times before this and was told they had nothing I wanted. I walked in today and they had everything on my list (that I could afford). The guy who helped me did say that they had no small or large rifle primers and no Varget. The shelf with all the boxes of bullets was virtually empty. I guess I got lucky today. That or the Lord was looking out for me.

exile

[Ron B.]

CB4017 was kind enough to forward a link to Widener's. They have only Wolf's large pistol primers in stock, at $21 a thousand. I purchased 50k from them yesterday. They do charge $22.50 hazmat and freight is rather expensive. On my order of 10 sleeves, I was charged $45 hazmat & $56.93 shipping. A little bit unfair I think. But, at least they have them (for now).

http://www.wideners.com/itemview.cfm?dir=278|284|737

[WildmanJack]

Just picked up another 5000 Winchester small pistol primers for $25.00 per Thousand. From a local gun shop.
Jack

[TAWILDCATT]

read the post here and then tell me the gov is buying to make a shortage.multiply
this site by 1000s and that is why there is a shortage.the plants were designed to produce X amount and now there is a call for XXXXXX.and you wonder?? I have never seen so many new reloaders.I grew up when there were few reloaders and had to teach myself how to load.god helps fools and new reloaders.:coffee:[smilie=1:

[Heavy lead]

read the post here and then tell me the gov is buying to make a shortage.multiply
this site by 1000s and that is why there is a shortage.the plants were designed to produce X amount and now there is a call for XXXXXX.and you wonder?? I have never seen so many new reloaders.I grew up when there were few reloaders and had to teach myself how to load.god helps fools and new reloaders.:coffee:[smilie=1:
Bingo
And the companies will and should not add plants, employees and/or work overtime either, it would be and is economically a mistake to do such as regardless of the outcome of this, whatever this is, is temporary.

[hedgehorn]

I am paying about $32 per thousand for Winchester here when I can find them :(

[mike in co]

CB4017 was kind enough to forward a link to Widener's. They have only Wolf's large pistol primers in stock, at $21 a thousand. I purchased 50k from them yesterday. They do charge $22.50 hazmat and freight is rather expensive. On my order of 10 sleeves, I was charged $45 hazmat & $56.93 shipping. A little bit unfair I think. But, at least they have them (for now).

http://www.wideners.com/itemview.cfm?dir=278|284|737

i think i'd go ask for half of the charges back.
10 sleeves will go in one shipment, one hazmat.
its how powder valley ships.......
did you order something besides the primers ?

mike in co

[Ron B.]

Hello Mike!
Actually, yes I did! Widener's did miscalculate HazMat; but the shipping, so they claim is correct.

GRB

[EMC45]

Bass Pro near me has primers for $5.99 a hundred!?!?!?!?!

[Ron B.]

Bass Pro; primers, $5.99 PER HUNDRED?
That's unreal; you better hop, skip, and jump right over there!

What sizes?
Locally, the dealers price each size differently.

I justed visited Bass Pro's main web site.
They only have primers listed for black powder, and shotshells.
Still, a very attractive price! Here's the link ---

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchResults?RequestAction=navbar&RequestData=page1&UseSheet=0&ResultsPerPage=100&CatPath=All%2BProducts%252F%252F%252F%252FUserSear ch%253Dprimers&OrigCatPath=All%2BProducts%252F%252F%252F%252FUser Search%253Dprimers&AttribSel=&submitted=yes&cmSType=S&viewastext=false&eaport=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.basspro.com%2Fwebapp%2Fwcs %2Fstores%2Fservlet%2F&storeId=10151&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&categoryId=&deptId=&subdeptId=&ea_sortDirection=&ea_sortColumnName=&currentpage=1

Good tooting!
GRB

[Down South]

Bass Pro near me has primers for $5.99 a hundred!?!?!?!?!That's more than double for what I pay. $2.25 for CCI is about normal at present. If I order 5000 and pay the Hazmat of 22.50 it still only figures out to be around $2.70 per hundred plus shipping. I usually make bulk orders so I’ll order 10,000 or so primers and a stock of powder all on the same order. I only have to pay one Hazmat and shipping fee so I come out pretty good. Sounds like BP is price gouging.

[cajun shooter]

$27 to $30 a thousand. Depends where you shop. The mad rush to buy everything in site has caused a panic that will take time to go away. Remember $4.85 gal diesel not long ago. Just paid $1.95 more in line with where it should be.Later David

[cajun shooter]

Bass Pro does the same with lead shot. It's going for $40 a bag late last year and BP was getting $60. Nothing like being greedy and helping with the downfall of this country.

[Ron B.]

I'm not a ShotShell reloader. At first glance, compared to what I've had to pay recently for centerfire primers Bass Pro's price didn't look bad! However, after reading you guy's comments, I did some checking! You are right; outrageous! Widener's is selling Winchester shotgun primers in the, get this ---

$36.00 per thousand range ---

http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=743&dir=278|284|314

[Down South]

$3.60 per thousand range --- I think that you meant $36.00 per thousand. Powder Valley has the same primers in stock for $31.00 per thousand.

[Ron B.]

I stand corrected! :)

Thanks!
GRB

[Westwindmike]

This past weekend at the gun show, paid $32 per thousand for Winchester Large Rifle. There were plenty available at that price.

[dubber123]

$35 + tax/1,000 for Federal small pistol.

[Alby]

Just bought Winchester large and small pistol for 24.99 and Large rifle for 27.99

[Lon371]

Are you guys finding these in your local small shops?

Lonny

[evan price]

I just Honcho'ed a Group Buy for Wolf primers from Powder Valley for Ohioans for Concealed Carry. I was hoping to hit 50K to get the best bang for the shipping & H-M. I got a few more people than I expected and wound up turning people away-
I ordered 200,000 primers from Powder Valley, price was $21 a brick delivered including haz-mat and shipping/insurance. Got half the order so far. Waiting on small pistol & large rifle.

I feel fortunate that I got what I have so far. Considering I paid $18 a brick delivered last year at this time... well, at least I have components, right?:drinks:

[Ron B.]

I bought 50K Wolf Large Pistol from Widener's for $20 a thousand last week. Checking my CC, I found where Chris hit me a double whammy on HAZMAT; charging $45; even after writing the package fell under one HAZMAT charge of $22.50. His site displayed $20. I was also charged nearly $57 for shipping. Should I complain? I feel fortunate to have found any at all. I honestly believe the vendors think they can treat us, the consumers anyway they wish right now. Chirs has ignored my last two emails. It ain't over. :)

GRB

GRB

[troy_mclure]

cant find large rifle anywhere, small rifle 2k for $45

[Big Tom]

Everything here in the area is sold out. Even at the gun show, nothing except for shotgun primers and powders that nobody wants anyhow.... Good thing that I got a few thousand each which should last for a few months.

Tom

[Huntducks]

Sat saw these priced at: 215 FOR $27.00 - 215GM $31 - Win LR $26.00

[Kraschenbirn]

Was "on the road" yesterday and stopped at a shop in a small town up north of here. (I'm not what you'd call a "regular customer" but I'd been there before.) The shop had a fair supply of powder and primers but the prices were mind-boggling: $42/K for Fed 150s, $44.50/K for CCI #41 (MilSpec SRs), $29.95 for 350-paks of CCI #350s, $27.50/lb for A2400, $28/lb for H4895, and on, and on, and on. Now, I know, for a fact, the owner's not paying shipping or Hazmat on his powder or primers...there's a major distributor of reloading components about 40 miles from his shop and he makes a weekly trip down to pick up inventory and special orders. And, I know that the distributor isn't "price-gouging" 'cause another shop I frequent purchases components the same place...they, too, pick-up to avoid Hazmat and shipping...and their over-the-counter prices are essentially MSRP.

Bill

[Catshooter]

It's called supply and demand. Free market at work.

Also, just remember two things: You don't have do spend your money there (free market at work again :) ) and in a year or two's time he may be out of business 'cause the sock monkey is in charge and he don't like an armed citizenry.


Cat

[Ron B.]

Today, I was in my local Walmart Super Center; here, in Trinidad, Colorado. I just happened to run into "Tom". Tom's the manager of the Sporting Goods section. I ask him if he was having trouble getting ammo. The answer was---"No, just keeping it in stock!"

Tom proceeded to tell me an amusing story about an 80 something woman coming in; buying over $1000 worth of anything he had centerfire related. He also told me about two men from New Mexico. Those two, according to Tom spent over $2000; buying him out of rifle ammo. Again, all centerfire. He smirkly remarked---"They're selling in on the Internet; I know all of them are!"

Old Tom. Did I tell you Tom's a pretty smart fellow? :Fire::Fire::Fire::Fire:

GRB

[arcticbreeze]

I just received 10,000 Wolf LG pistol primers from wiedners at 19.00 per 1000 plus hazmat.

They were ordered over 2 weeks ago.

[Japlmg]

Six weeks ago Winchester primers were $28 per 1000 at the local gun show, two weeks ago they were $32 per 1000, and at the next show in two weeks I expect them to be selling in the $34 to $36 per 1000 range.
Prices will keep going up and up, until people like us just just stop buying.
Plain and simple.
Gregg

[Prairie Wolf]

Those selling in the 20's are probably selling old stock. I am pretty sure the wholesale price went up last summer. Probably went up more due to the shortage.

There is a store here that had reloading components about 25-50% higher priced than everyone else. They didn't sell much, needless to say. Now, they've sold much of it due to everyone else's prices rising. They haven't got much left but pistol primers. I need to grab a couple bricks when I get some dough.

[Jon]

I didn't see any primers at all at the gun show this weekend. I guess I'll have to get in the back order and wait it out.

[beanflip]

At the Yakima gun show this last weekend CCI lg mag rilfe primers $75.00/1000 !!

What a joke!!!!

[GSPKurt]

Federal Large Pistol Mag
$35 per 1,000

CCI Large Rifle Bench Rest
$40 per 1,000

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[skeet1]

I stopped by Powder Valley last week in hope that they had gotten some primers in as their web page showed that they were out of allmost everything. I was in luck, paid $22.00 a thousand for CCI 200's. What a deal, I wish I had more money.

Skeet1

[bcp477]

So, do you guys REALLY NEED 20,000....or 50,000 or more primers on hand, at any one time ??? Sorry if this sounds like I'm criticizing, but you do realize, don't you, that buying up and hoarding so many primers (as well as other handloading items) is EXACTLY the reason that the prices are going up by leaps and bounds....not to mention the fact that you are adding very much to the shortage problem ??? You DO get that, don't you ? NO ONE is going to ban primers - so there is NO need to panic. Really ! No wonder we can't get the d^mn things !

[BruceB]

Actually, for my peace of mind, I DO require a substantial supply of "stuff"...all kinds of stuff.

I get twitchy if my lead-alloy stockpile drops below 1000 pounds, so I watch the available supply quite closely. I'm trying to cut back on the powder types I use, but at last count I still had over thirty different "numbers", mostly in multiples of pounds.

On primers, my NORMAL stock runs around fifteen to twenty thousand of various sorts, and has done for years. I've been increasing that level somewhat as opportunity presents itself. Just yesterday, Urny (in Elko) introduced me to a fascinating shop WAYYY out in the countryside, and they have Winchester primers in most sizes for $22.50 per thousand.....so, I bought three thousand "just because".

I owe nobody any apologies. This is my hobby, and primers are literally the spark-plugs that make my hobby "go". I may not even live to the end of my current supply, given the medical realities, but by gum I WILL be shooting as long as I possibly can. The primers on hand will make that possible.

One marvelous thing about casting our own bullets is the virtually unlimited range of components that are usable with our favorite projectiles. Jacketed bullets are a very expensive proposition if we try to build a reasonable stack of them for future consideration, and they need a fairly-limited range of powder types for good performance. The shop Urny took me to has bulk .308" 168-grain "match" BTHP bullets at $125/500. My M1A munches very happily on cast bullet loads that cost me PENNIES, completely loaded, compared to the 25-cents-per-bullet that most handloaders have to pay IF the bullets can be found.

Independence is a wonderful thing, and that pile of primers in my shop are a large part of that independence.

[Idaho_Elk_Huntr]

I LOVE ALL THE PRIMER SPECIALIST INPUT. I think most of the problem is most companies manufacture ammo and the ammo production is number one priority. If you were in buisness , are you going for the big profit or the smaller one?

[Idaho_Elk_Huntr]

I bought 50K Wolf Large Pistol from Widener's for $20 a thousand last week. Checking my CC, I found where Chris hit me a double whammy on HAZMAT; charging $45; even after writing the package fell under one HAZMAT charge of $22.50. His site displayed $20. I was also charged nearly $57 for shipping. Should I complain? I feel fortunate to have found any at all. I honestly believe the vendors think they can treat us, the consumers anyway they wish right now. Chirs has ignored my last two emails. It ain't over. :)

GRB

GRB

Hazmat is $22.50 a box up to 50 lbs. How many separate boxes was in the shipment?

[beanflip]

Just think 50,000 primers would last 34.722222 days if you shot continusley 1 shot every second.
:Fire:With all that shooting I would think your gun would be wore out.

[Ron B.]

Here's a thought for you. And, a question.
What is the one component of a live round not easily layman made?

We all know the government has been wanting to serialize ammo for years. They know it's impossible; we know it, because of it's reloading capabilities. However, primers can easily be coded.

Now, do you believe something is going on? Or, are we all just paranoid gun fanatics?

GRB

[GSPKurt]

I stopped by Powder Valley last week in hope that they had gotten some primers in as their web page showed that they were out of allmost everything. I was in luck, paid $22.00 a thousand for CCI 200's. What a deal, I wish I had more money.

Skeet1


No kidding!

[Ron B.]

Got to love the sarcasm BCP & Beano!
What are you two doing on this forum, trying to start a squabble? Lol!
If primers are for sale, and we wish to buy them isn't it a little like our own business? Most of us own more than one or two guns. I know I do. And, a heaping mess of reloading stuff. Without primers, all of it's obsolete. Personally, I'm protecting my investment.

Idaho!
Widener's refunded my overcharge of $22.50 Hazmat!

GRB

[oldhickory]

I'm still able to get pretty much what I want at the local gunshop between $22-$26 per thouand, depending on brand and type. Guess we're pretty lucky in central Pa...So far!

[Ron B.]

So, some may question our sanity buying primers for 30-35 a thousand. Has anyone checked out the auction sites of late? I just came from GunBroker. $60 per thousand is a normal sight.

GRB

[Catshooter]

So, do you guys REALLY NEED 20,000....or 50,000 or more primers on hand, at any one time ??? Sorry if this sounds like I'm criticizing, but you do realize, don't you, that buying up and hoarding so many primers (as well as other handloading items) is EXACTLY the reason that the prices are going up by leaps and bounds....not to mention the fact that you are adding very much to the shortage problem ??? You DO get that, don't you ? NO ONE is going to ban primers - so there is NO need to panic. Really ! No wonder we can't get the d^mn things !

When President Bush was re-elected I knew that he had been doing such a bad job that the democrats were going to get in. So I knew that this would be happening and stocked up accordingly. I haven't bought primers for two years. Didn't you see it coming too?

Now maybe you weren't in a position to spend the money needed to do the same, but when you say: ". . . do you guys REALLY NEED . . ." it makes me think that you voted for the sock monkey?

The liberals are allways saying things like that, you know, you don't really need an AK-47 . . . or magazine bigger that ten rounds . . . just saying.


Cat

[BruceB]

I'd like to drift the thread just a wee skosh.

For many years now, I've been dating the powders and primers I buy. Just a stationery-department sticker with month and year is needed. I then place the newest components at the bottom of the stack to be used last.

Over the years, I think this is a useful way of extending the reliable life-span of the stuff.

Yep, I know that lifespans can be measured in decades, but I'm still occasionally surprised to find that the powder I just removed from the shelf was bought 20 (or more) years ago.

Just a suggestion, lads....

[troy_mclure]

i wish i could find some large rifle primers, im on BO at 4 stores in hopes i get some by may.

[troy_mclure]

just got lucky, my local shop/range got in 10k primers in as i was signing in.
they got(all win) 2k small rifle, 3k large mag rifle, 2k large mag pistol, 3k small pistol.
this from an order of over 100k primers, and 300lb powder(they got no powder).
they broke up 1k of each, so i was only able to get 2k large magnum rifle for $26 per 1000.

[RSOJim]

I got the last 1000 Federal small pistol magnum primers today at my local reloading emporium. Local means about 45 miles from my house. No other small pistol magnum brands available. Shelves nearly bare. I paid 36.95 plus tax. But I need them for my WC 820 habit. I tried some Wolf small rifle primers for my 357 mag loads of wc 820 and it appears that these primers are made of something harder than small pistol magnum primers. Out of 4 357 guns only one would reliably go off with the wolf small rifle primers. I tightened the hammer strain screws down as tight as I could get them on my two smiths, still about a third would not fire. I have an old ruger flat top that goes boom everytime. That guns loves a good dose of wc 820and old Elmers 173 grain SWC. I am rambling too much. Jim

[Baron von Trollwhack]

For our shooting friends who question why otherwise sane citizens are buying and hoarding primers, how about telling me why the stock market dived so badly and continues to display great uncertainty with hopey changey in charge, why my 75 year old pal across town lost 37% of his stock value since november, and even more of his retirement income? Why are crooks, cheats, and pigmented people rewarded for melanin instead of receiving just deserts? Only a fool thinks great losses in life or business can be recovered by even greater spending for debt.

Can it be that citizins do not want the assault ban re imposed, the borders left unsecured, crooks bailed out, 20 millions of illegals killing and raping us and stealing the wages we work for, in addition to the unwarranted use of the taxes we pay , sanctuary cities flaunting the law, the gubmint importing third world scum by the tens of thousands, and on, and on, and on. Without a doubt, the nation I once gave years of service to is declining. Unneccessarily, I think. And I am aware of many of the causes.


Citizen's grievances are unanswered. Prudent people stock the pantry in times of perilous uncertainty.

Bvt

[inuhbad]

At least you guys can FIND PRIMERS!!!

Every single darn place in the entire states seems to now be 100% OUT of & PRIMERS!

Most places don't have any smokeless powders in anything larger than 1 pound jugs!

It's a CONSPIRACY, I'm telling you! :(

[Old Ironsights]

I'm paying nothing... because I ain't buying any until the price goes down. the 15K I have should last me until then.

[bkbville]

Bass Pro near me has primers for $5.99 a hundred!?!?!?!?!

I bought these after spending a week going shop to shop looking for SR's - but only one package.

When - or should I say "if" I find them on-line the hazmat makes them unattractive (but I'm figuring on buying in bulk to amortize the cost.)

Next day I found them for $32/1000 (60 mile drive though...)

[Ron B.]

Well said Baron!
GRB

[LqChrome]

Ivisited Gander Mountian Friday and found federal primers for $4.99 per 100 and unique for $129.00 a jug, 4 lb jug not 8!! Left money in pocket!!!!!!

[LqChrome]

P.S. feds was all they had!!

[woodsoup]

1000 CCI small rifle last tuesday at the local GS were $31.08 out the door. They also had some powders. H748 was $18.00 lb, FFFG was $18.00 before taxes.

[Blackhawk]

I paid $28 for 1000 CCI 350 Large Pistol Magnum primers last week.

[ktw]

My favorite dealer still has old stock (mostly magnums) priced at $21-$22/k. His new stock is all $30/k. The only thing he was out of was small rifle. Didn't buy any. I have enough and think they will be significantly cheaper in a year or two.

New stock rifle powders are all $23/lb around here. Still possible to find lower priced old stock cans on the shelves in some places.

-ktw

[KCSO]

Boy I am lucky I stocked up last year. I'm hanging on to about 20 thousand assorted at this time and was wondering today if 2500 shotgun primers would last me another year or so.

[sheepdog]

Just got back from Wanenmacher's gun show in tulsa, "the world's largest". Wolf small rifle magnum primers selling for $60 a box, Federal small pistol primers for $80, Remington large rifle primers for $68. I know its a sellers market but people doing this should be cut off. Hell in my town small rifle benchrest primers are only $4 a pack, even if you can only buy a pack a day.

[Fugowii]

Just paid $32/K for Rem 7.5 SR, Rem LR, and Rem SP. No LP. Place only had
three boxes of 20K each (20 1K boxes) and told me guys were calling wanting
to buy his entire stock (he just got it in). He said he was limiting sales of 1K
per customer of each type.

[andremajic]

I just went to the local gun show looking for primers. Each and every booth I went to laughed heartily when asked about primers. I'm not out of primers, but I'm going to have to ration them until supplies get better.

They were like; "Didn't you expect this to happen after the election results?" or "Fat chance of finding those here!" or "Maybe if you showed up the first hour of the first day you might have found some!"

I am getting discouraged, but will keep checking the shelves at gander mtn. and the local reloading shop. Half the fun getting something is in the HUNT.

Andy.

[jar-wv]

I hadn't bought any primers in quite a while, so I was shocked to see the price on the only ones I've seen in quite a while on the shelves. I ended up buying 200 SR only because I'm about clear out of em. Paid $5 per 100, with no price break for buying 1,000. Wish I had taken better inventory earlier.

jar

[mike in co]

this weekend was the turning point on primer prices. wolf says thier shipment will not be in till may/june. most distributors are out/low or rationing shipments of all but shotgun primers.

i was at a local gun show and had a wholesale customer at the tulsa show. at the local show, the sales of primers on the internet, drove prices to $70-75 per 1k. ( there is a simple reason. why sell local for 30 if i can sell on the net for 70-100 per ? we sellers, are in this biz to make money. most are not here to bend people over. it is stupid for anyone to sell to person A for 30, to have person A sell them on the net for 60 ? i know of one dealer that did not sell primers at the show. he did bring in a special order for an existing customer for 1k at $24. all other dealers sold at $70-75 and sold out.) the tulsa show primers started around $30 per k, but went up later in the show.

it is simple supply and demand. no one is forcing you to buy. wait it will get better. if you cannot wait and did not plan ahead( you had a 2 yr warning with bush leaving office), dont balme the seller. my wholesale customer is an ammo manufacturer. he is left high and dry by the delay in wolf primer shipment. he constantly needs primers for his biz. he bought over 100k at the tulsa show at around 30/k.....that is very expensive for a dealer, but he needs them to stay in biz. you can expect his ammo prices to reflect the primer costs.

i bought some extra primers for a project. since i can wait to finish the project, i will take a sleeve of small rifle primers to the next gun show. if prices are still $60 plus..i will sell them.
when suppies are back, i will continue to sell at market prices. i sold over 300k in dec jan at retail...

[stubshaft]

My local gunshop owner let me buy (he is holding limited amounts) 1K of WW SR primers for he ridiculously low price of $45.00...

[exile]

I went to Scheels in Lincoln today. All they had were shotgun primers. I bought a box of small pistol and large pistol the last time I was there. Glad I did. I bought 100 rounds of Winchester .38 special brass out of sheer frustration. March of "08 when I bought a .38, I could not find .38 special brass anywhere. Anyway, that is my story. Sign on the empty primer case said that Federal had just signed a government contract for primers so not to expect any Federal primers anytime soon.

exile

[azrednek]

My local dealer had a good stock of Remington, Federal and Winchester primers for apx 29-31 per thousand. He originally had a 2K total limit and the following day lowered it to 1K. The shop's employee told me the dealer refused many offers trying to buy up his entire stock for an inflated price.

The dealer could have easily doubled his money selling up his stock on one the auction sites or taken the offers for his entire stock at an inflated price. The dealer opted to support his customers rather than line his pocket.

Another thing this same dealer did after metal prices boomed in 2008. He sold his existing stocks of brass and bullets at the original prices. He didn't raise prices until the new higher priced goods replaced the older lower priced supplies.

The dealer Randall's Shooting in Glendale Arizona will definitely get my support and $$'s after supplies become available. If there were more honest dealers around like him I doubt there would be a primer shortage.

[1911sw45]

I paid 45.95 a 1000 for WLP and WSP primers today here in Princeton, KY. Paid 39.95 a week and a half ago at the same place.

1911sw45
Adam

[sig2009]

$99 per 5,000 for Wolf Small Rifle Primers at a PA gun show a few weeks ago.

[Boondocker]

50.00 and change total for 1k wlr and 1k wlp last week new stock in the local shop.

[andremajic]

Update; I found 1000 winchester large pistol for 31.00 at a local gun shop.

Problem isn't that the supplies are drying up so much as people are buying all the existing stock, and it's taking a while for them to get back to normal levels on the shelves.

Patience does help. Don't panic, you'll get what you need. Happy shooting!

Andy.

[skydog]

Went by Dong's in Tulsa today. He has primers to buy, in store only. The Small rifle primers were for sale at $4.95 @ 100 and you have to have a matching purchase in bullets. One for One.

Other primers were just for sale but he won't ship them.

[Sixgun Symphony]

You know what Guys & Gals?
I'm usually not one to blame the government, like so many do. But whom do you know who has the power to buy every single item any company sells? And, doing so under contracts which, may run for years?

Something's going on here; we all know it. Certainly panic buying has something to do with it also. But, how can we, the consumer buy if there's nothing out there? According to all the retailers I've spoken to their suppliers are telling them no idea when a lot of reloading components/centerfire ammo will be available again. Personally, I believe we've only begun.


I think you may be onto something.

[Willbird]

If Wideners got 200k primers in, and sold them all in 1 day, they probably did not sell them to the govt. 200k a day is selling pretty fast.

Bill

[Ron B.]

Actually, regarding Widener's I believe the amount they had originally was 550,000 Wolf LP primers. I jumped in; glad I did. I now have too many large pistol primers! But, is too many going to be enough? :)

Thses are my first Wolf brand primers; I'm impressed! Each box of 100 is taped on both sides. Plus, the things ignite very well; reminding me of Winchesters.

GRB

[be603]

Glad I topped off with a bulk buy last summer.

Silly me. I paid attention to local reg's and limited my stash to 10K max. I won't get caught in that hole again. Just have to ride this bubble out. In the future, I will have multiple storage sites around the property meeting the letter of the "10K law" -- while being careful to not hav more than that in one structure.

Let's see, there's the shop, the root cellar, extended families houses, maybe dig a cool storage hole under the tool shed....

[Ole]

The reason you can't find primers should be crystal clear if you read this thread.

Everyone is buying 10x-100x more than they need.

[Tom Herman]

Glad I topped off with a bulk buy last summer.

Silly me. I paid attention to local reg's and limited my stash to 10K max. I won't get caught in that hole again. Just have to ride this bubble out.

I haven't seen any useable primers (handgun) in at least a couple of months. I turned my nose up at the CCI's I saw on the shelves because I prefer Federal. Silly me as well... I should have bought them, and now there is NOTHING out here in SW WA state.
Forget Unique... I also should have snapped up the two pounds of Red Dot I saw come it at the local gun shop.
I should have enough stashed now to get me by until things hopefully get better. And, no, I don't have x10 or x100 what I normally use. I'm simply comfortably ahead.
But, when I can afford it, you doggone better well believe that I will work towards having at least x10 or x20 what I need on a short term basis.
I need to look out not only for me, but for my buddies as well.
And it's no one's business what I have stored...

Happy Shootin'! -Tom

[BD]

I spent a couple of hours at the Syracuse gun show this afternoon. The same guy that had primers last fall, had primers again this spring. Plenty of LR and LP, BUT he was asking 65.00/1,000! The only small rifle primers was one lonely box of 1,000 Rem 7 1/2s and he had $75.00 on that!

I didn't see anyone buying at those prices, but if you were out and desperate, they were available.

BD

[Storydude]

The reason you can't find primers should be crystal clear if you read this thread.

Everyone is buying 10x-100x more than they need.

This is a nice thing about the USA.

One can do whatever one chooses.

Nice to see you know how many we all need.

[TDC]

First people without primers were seeking supplies in anticipation of long lasting shortages - understandable... Now we're hearing from people who have an adequate supply now but are going to increase what they usually hold by 5X or 10X as soon as they possibly can - understandable.....

Can anyone see the "light at the end of the tunnel" with primers for a long, long time? I can't.... The frenzy seems to be everywhere -- with everyone...

This dilemma needs to be etched in our brains if we want to keep reloading and shooting in the future. Political turmoil, economic disruptions, and just plain opportunistic behavior and greed will most certainly influence and guide that future more than it ever has after this latest crisis..

Primers, powder and brass are the essential life blood of our sport. For good or for bad, everyone is fully aware of that now... and as we all know, some elements don't wish us well..

TDC

[Ole]

This is a nice thing about the USA.

One can do whatever one chooses.

Nice to see you know how many we all need.

I never tried to tell anyone how many primers they need.

Take my previous statement however you will, but it's true. In times like this, shooters are their own worst enemies. I never said people shouldn't be able to buy however many primers they can afford.

The same thing would happen with gasoline/food/other if everyone instantly felt they needed to stockpile a lifetime supply because of a perceived shortage.

Everyone wonders why you can't find primers anywhere. Take a look at your fellow sportsmen for the answer.

[Storydude]

I never tried to tell anyone how many primers they need.

Take my previous statement however you will, but it's true. In times like this, shooters are their own worst enemies. I never said people shouldn't be able to buy however many primers they can afford.

The same thing would happen with gasoline/food/other if everyone instantly felt they needed to stockpile a lifetime supply because of a perceived shortage.

Everyone wonders why you can't find primers anywhere. Take a look at your fellow sportsmen for the answer.

Can you find primers? If not, than it's not a "Perceived shortage".

I"m firing primers last purchased in 1984. *I* didn't buy them then, but that's when they were purchased.


Just because I have a good store of primers has not deterred me from buying more.

I look at like Mosin ammo, 5.45 ammo, 7.62X25 ammo....Sure, it'll always be out there...but at greatly increased prices. The term buy low, sell high comes to mind. I bought my mosin ammo 3 years ago for 22.50/300. now it's 79.99/300 for the SAME AMMO. Why? Because there is less of it available.

And on that note, when have you seen Ammo component prices DROP after a shortage? Only one I can think of is Lead shot 3 yrs ago Vs now.

Not trying to flame at all, but a few sayings come to mind. "get while the getting's good" and "Buy it cheap and stack it deep".


I look at it as an investment. If prices go down, I lost out. If prices go up or supply dries up, that 30.00/1K I spent looks like a bargain when prices hit 80/1K.

I look at history to determine my purchases. Remember the 1994 AWB? AK's that were purchased for 125 bucks sold for 500-750 overnight. How about the Cheap ak ammo of 2001-02? You know, the 89.99/1K or 1240 cases?


I'll bet more than one person wishes they had bought a pallet back then. I know I wish I had.


On that note, all it'll take is a change in the Customs importation statutes and Import Hazmat, Boom, over 50% of the powder in the USA dries up overnight.

[sargenv]

The best thing to do is put in a back order at Powder Valley, Cabela's, Wideners, or any large online retailer. Put in your order and tell them to ship when they get everything you want ordered. Understand that eventually they will get some stock in and will ship it when they can. Then just wait. Payig an exorbitant amount of money on something that's not worth that much is what got us into trouble in the housing market.. stop offering to pay that kind of money, whether you need it or not, and eventually prices on local stuff will subside when the gougers figure out people won't pay it. They bought low so they can still sell it for a reasonable price if/when people stop panic-ing.

[Jon]

The reason you can't find primers should be crystal clear if you read this thread.

Everyone is buying 10x-100x more than they need.

That may be true, but since no one can buy them locally, a person has to buy 5-10k at a time to make up for the $23 haz mat fee

[sargenv]

That may be true, but since no one can buy them locally, a person has to buy 5-10k at a time to make up for the $23 haz mat fee

Likely not an issue for someone like myself that shoots 15-20k rounds a year.. In the past, 1000 primers would last me months. In that case, well, I guess people are stuck paying whatever the local market will bear.. but some of these places and people are charging $60/k, so PV charges $25.50 + 22.50 hazmat.. I say you are still ahead of the game? You could likely get a sleeve of 5k and sell your surplus for what shipping and hazmat cost and still come out ahead and not be gouging like some places I've seen.

[fusil]

Salut,
I pay €99 for 5000 CCI small primers plus €7 postage. :mrgreen:
That about $140.

fusil

[mcl198]

We just returned from the Crossroads of the West gun show at the fair grounds in
Phoenix.

While were were in line to get into the parking lot, I personnaly saw some
guys with hand trucks loaded with ammo in large new boxess going back to their cars, then returing for more.

I have been attending the Phoenix show on and off for many years and never
have seen people buying so much ammo,guns or reloading supplies .

The lines waiting to buy tickets were at least 100 yards long, three lines deep.

We took a look at the ammo booths. The ammo sold out fast, the primers
and powder even faster.

One booth was selling small pistol primers for $360/5000 or .072 each/7.20 per
hundered/72.00 for thousand. I asked the vendor if people were buy up
at this price. The answer is , this is all we have left. About 3 cases. The
guys were snapping up the primers. Some guys were walking around with
backpacks and signs at $75.00 per 1000 for SRPs.

So, plan on paying even more for reloading parts in the future, if others are
willing to cough up the cash up at any price to secure the reloading parts.

Maybe the hoopla will wear off in a few months and the reloading supplies will return to normal, but for now with low interest rates, why not stock up The parts are a good short term investment. You can almost be sure to make 50% on your
investment.

MCL198

[SWIAFB]

I went to the gun show yesterday, Des Moines, Ia, One vender had cases of Wolf lp only. Did not check price. Other venders where pricing at 50, 60 dollars a brick for large rifle,large pistel. Saw zero small rifle. Found partial brick of old Win large rifle, 800 for $20.00. One vendor had white box Winchester large rifle for $30.00 a brick, one brick limit. You really had to look hard to see them and he was really ticked off at the price gouging some of the other dealers where doing. One vendor had a sign on several bricks $10.00 per Hundred.

[Heavy lead]

I've been buying primers locally for 30 bucks/thousand. The price gougers will get their's in the end, most are making so little in reality if they consider there time and investment it's pretty much a joke, and losing future business at the same time. I won't pay 50 bucks for them. period.

[Gary51]

Also went to the Crossroads show in Phoenix on Saturday and it was madness. Must have seen the same folks as mcl198 loading up there truck. I arrived around 8:30 on Saturday and it was 10 before I got parked and waited on a 300 yard line to get in (at least it wasn't 100 degrees). Place was packed with lots of rude, pushy folks. I saw primers for $350 a case of 5000 and no dealer sales allowed, and they did sell out! Prices in general where very high and I left with a full wallet. I am very glad I still have plenty of those old $9.95 a sleeve primers on the shelf and am set for many years.

[John Boy]

New Jersey - local reloading supplier - Federal 150's ... $31.40/m

[badgeredd]

At the Kalamazoo Michigan gun show this last weekend, we saw primers for $40 and $45 per 1000. Neither Hornet or I needed any that bad. We'll both wait 'til the prices return to the semblance of normal. ;)

At least there were some of about every size and even a couple brands available. CCI seems to be the most available. Didn't see any Remington, Winchester, or Wolf at the show.

Edd

[mike in co]

I've been buying primers locally for 30 bucks/thousand. The price gougers will get their's in the end, most are making so little in reality if they consider there time and investment it's pretty much a joke, and losing future business at the same time. I won't pay 50 bucks for them. period.

your right YOU will not buy any primers for $50/k...the going price is $60,70-100/k

always two ways of looking at things.

i am not a price gouger. i am a businessman that is selling product at market prices. i force no one to buy from me, in fact, i tell my customers to not buy primers to put on a shelf, only buy if you need now.

some peole look ahead and prepare, others have blinders on, and do not pay attention to the market.
i do not buy powder by the pound, i buy 8 lbr's and often multiples of them. i buy my own primers 5k min at a time, typically 20-50 k at a time.

if primers go to $30-35/k in the fall/winter, i will have made enough money to replace my primers twice. and i should feel bad because i PLAN AHEAD ?

sorry i sleep well at night.

and no i'm not rich, infact i'm probably at the bottom of middle class...at the best.

nite,
mike in co

[Flash]

your right YOU will not buy any primers for $50/k...the going price is $60,70-100/k

always two ways of looking at things.

i am not a price gouger. i am a businessman that is selling product at market prices. i force no one to buy from me, in fact, i tell my customers to not buy primers to put on a shelf, only buy if you need now.

some peole look ahead and prepare, others have blinders on, and do not pay attention to the market.
i do not buy powder by the pound, i buy 8 lbr's and often multiples of them. i buy my own primers 5k min at a time, typically 20-50 k at a time.

if primers go to $30-35/k in the fall/winter, i will have made enough money to replace my primers twice. and i should feel bad because i PLAN AHEAD ?

sorry i sleep well at night.

and no i'm not rich, infact i'm probably at the bottom of middle class...at the best.

nite,
mike in co

Plan ahead indeed!!
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[RugerSP101]

Thats all well and good but what about those of us who just getting into reloading for the first times in our lives and cant even find primers to start this new hobby ?
We didnt witness the last shortage and had no clue it was coming.

[Catshooter]

Ruger,

Guys like you are the only ones I have any feelings for. The truth is that you'll just have to tough it out. Your timing is just off, that's all. Be patient, this will probably pass in time.

Just learn from it, please. Don't get caught like this again.


Cat

[SciFiJim]

I checked the local gun shop today. Primers that I paid $32.50/thou for three weeks ago are now priced at $69.99. I WILL NOT pay those prices. I am new to reloading but know gouging when I see it. I know it's a supply/demand thing, but my demand is not worth 70 bucks. Fortunately, I purchased 2500 primers just after Christmas. I have 2400 left and will use them sparingly until the current shortage is over. I may have to dip into my commercially loaded ammo storage.

[hammerhead357]

I went by Nagel's in San Antonio the other day and they would only sell 200 primers at a time, and that wasn't 200 of each it was 200 total for the day. What a load of BS I drive 45 miles and they will sell me only 200 primers.....Glad I have some left over from several years ago.

I guess I will remember this when or if the supply and price gets better.I guess I know where I won't be spending my money when or if things get better.

Here in San Antonio and surrounding area there is no competion so the gun shops sell for what ever the market will bear. I did miss the last gun show here but from past dealings there were no bargins to be had......Wes

[RugerSP101]

I checked the local gun shop today. Primers that I paid $32.50/thou for three weeks ago are now priced at $69.99. I WILL NOT pay those prices. I am new to reloading but know gouging when I see it. I know it's a supply/demand thing, but my demand is not worth 70 bucks. Fortunately, I purchased 2500 primers just after Christmas. I have 2400 left and will use them sparingly until the current shortage is over. I may have to dip into my commercially loaded ammo storage.
Honestly, if I could find them for $70/1000 Id buy a box or two. I just cant find them here at all.
When I figure that a box of 38's is about $20 here minimum, even at $70/1000 for primers that leaves me paying about $5/50 for ammo instead of 4 times that. I can definitely deal with paying $5 instead of $20 for 50 rounds.
Aint too proud to beg. If I can get a box or two of them to last the summer I'll buy them at $70 because if I dont the whole point of my taking up reloading, which is to get the wife into shooting this new Ruger, is entirely defeated.

[JesterGrin_1]

NOT for PRIMERS but for Powder. If you call A PLACE TO SHOOT in San Antonio Texas they do have a good deal of powder to sell. Just a heads up :)

[Idaho_Elk_Huntr]

Winchester primers came in again at my shop this week are $23 per brick. People are gouging. This shop is great and I will always support them! Powder is starting to stay on shelves a little longer in most shops in the area. Prices running from $16.90 a lb to $34 at one place I stopped at yesterday

[atr]

no primers around here (western WA) anywhere !!!!.......when last seen they were going from $30.00 to $35.00 per thousand

[gifford]

Was in a local gun shop last week, not much in the way of powder or mil-surp ammo. The primers were down to a few bricks for shotguns. They did have a customer's consignment display of winchester and cci small rifle primers. They were priced at $50 per thousand. I'd hazard a guess that there were a dozen or so bricks.

[WildmanJack]

Well I visited the local gun show today. Huge arena, took 20 min. to find a parking space. Then I went inside, they were selling small pistol primers for .... ARE U READY ???????? 10 CENTS EACH !!!!!!!!!! I told the guy he should be ashamed of himself. he just laughed and said, you guys won't be buying at Wal-mart anymore... I said maybe not but you can bet I won't be buying from you !!!

Jack

[andremajic]

There are two gun shops around here that sell primers for about 30-35.00 a brick that aren't sold out yet.

I bought a thousand just so that I can reload and go to the range again, but I'm going to wait to buy more when the prices go down again.

Andy.

[.357]

the local shops are selling them fro 4.00 a hundred limited to 400 primers the big store (sportsman) doesn't really have any ever but then are priced at 30 ish dollars a thousand limit two thousand.

[IHMSA]

CCIs are going for $32.50/box around here now.

[Mugs]

In the Phoenix area Bruno's just got in Fed. 205M's $49.95 a 1000.
Mugs
IHMSA 5940L

[rmb721]

Last week, at the gun show in York, PA, some dealers were selling rifle and pistol primers for $32 to$35 and shotgun primers for $39. There were a few dealers that had their primers priced at $50, but they weren't selling too many.

[shdwlkr]

Here primers when they do appear are going for $4.10 a hundred and you can only get 400 primers. Powder shows up sometimes and is $23.00 up a pound. We are also limited on how many boxes of loaded ammo you can buy. My dealer is asking for his money back on a lot of orders that are almost a year old and nothing has showed up yet.
I just wonder if we will ever see things as well stocked as they were before November 2008 again? Seems something is sucking up a lot of brass, bullets, primers and powder and the feds and LEO's orders are completed. Strange very strange

[JesterGrin_1]

Powder and Brass is not real hard to get. But I am sure the powers that be know we can do nothing without primers.

[jeff423]

The best thing to do is put in a back order at Powder Valley, Cabela's, Wideners, or any large online retailer. Put in your order and tell them to ship when they get everything you want ordered. Understand that eventually they will get some stock in and will ship it when they can. Then just wait. Payig an exorbitant amount of money on something that's not worth that much is what got us into trouble in the housing market.. stop offering to pay that kind of money, whether you need it or not, and eventually prices on local stuff will subside when the gougers figure out people won't pay it. They bought low so they can still sell it for a reasonable price if/when people stop panic-ing.

Amen! last week my magtech order came in: 10,000 spp, $23.50/1000

I've still got 10,000 Lpp on order

Jeff

[TDC]

After three months on their waiting list at our local Sportsman's Warehouse I received some CCI LR and SP primers. Ik of each was all I had asked for at the time and that's all they would give me. The amazing thing was they were priced at $24.95 per k when I got to the check stand. It probably was an error..... We'll see!

They were putting shopping carts full of other new reloading inventory and components including several powders we haven't seen for a while.. Unique and 2400 were among them. Didn't see any fresh IMR or Hodgdon powders. Those with a Sportsman's Warehouse close may want to check their stores....

[JesterGrin_1]

The one Sportsman's Warehouse in San Antonio closed it's Doors sorry to say.

[hammerhead357]

Yes I was upset about the S.A. Sportsman's Warehouse going out of business. Now there is no competition and the local gun shops will set whatever prices they want...Wes
I might add that the local shops are setting limits of 100 to 200 primers per day. One of them is limiting it to a per household per day buy.
The prices seem to be in the 3.99 per 100 range. I guess they never heard of a progressive press. I have to drive 35 miles to get to S.A. so it's sort of pointless to drive in to get primers and the stores are not close to where I work and by the time I go into work they are closed anywas...Wes

[JesterGrin_1]

HemmerHead357 the real problem is there are no gun shops that would carry what Sportsman's Warhouse did.

So now I either have to order what I need online or drive all the way to Buda for Cabellas. You can order what you need from the Cabellas web site and have it sent to that store and it will not cost you for shipping but it is still a pain.

[hammerhead357]

Jester yes I like to go to Cabellas but it is nearly 100 miles from my home to Buda so it is a little out of the way for me....
I wish Outdoor America from OKC would open a shop up in S.A. then there might be some compitition...Wes