pellet pistols

[porthos]

don't know anything about them. probably going to get one for indoor practice. what can i get for less than $200.00. and should it be co2, or pump. 177or 22 cal. accuarcy is imporntant;suggestions

[Kestrel4k]

Daisy 717 single stroke pneumatic; I have a half-dozen nice air pistols, and the (0.177") Model 717 is absolutely the best bang for the buck. $100 used or so, IIRC. A German-mfg Lothar Walther barrel was used in the higher-level 747, which could also fit your price point.

A trigger job does help them substantially, which is /really/ easy to do.

They definitely have a following in the target shooting community:
https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/daisy-powerline-717.1237411/

[hoodat]

I like the Crossman pump up type -- about 50 odd bucks at most stores. Easy to decide how many pumps for your use. usually two does the trick for indoor or close range. I've got one in 17, and another in 22. Very accurate, and heavy enough to be steady and give you strength/hold training. jd

[shooting on a shoestring]

Another 2 votes for the Crossman pump pistol, .177 & .22!

I got my .22 back in the early 80’s. Can’t remember how many times I’ve put new seals in it. Probably 4 -5 times. No telling how many pounds of pellets have been through it. I’ve killed more bugs, insects, spiders, yellow jackets, carpenter bees, dropped Hornet nests out of the eaves, killed mice inside a few few times, outside too. Handiest, easiest, funnest thing ever for ridding the homestead of such invaders.

Got worried a maybe a decade or so ago that .22 pellets were getting hard to buy. So I bought the same gun in .177. It works ok on the same pests, but I really prefer the heavier .22 pellets. Two pumps and pop a bug.

In Dad’s later years, he and I were having too much fun with mine in the backyard shooting mine. So I went shopping for a pellet pistol for him. I got him the Benjamin .177 cal pump up pellet pistol. It’s a little shorter in overall length, but so is the pumping arm. It’s noticeably stiffer to pump up a couple of strokes. It does have wood grips and forearm, but that’s the only thing I see better about it. I really prefer my old Crossman .22 version.

[Remiel]

I'm a fan of the old Crossman 38T and variants,

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[Rockindaddy]

Without a doubt. The Crossman Pump .177 or the .22's are a good value for $50. I have shot a pile of Iguanas here in the Florida Keys with my Crossman .177 pumper. It shoots clean through the small and medium size lizards with 7 pumps at close, sneak-up range! For indoor target practice usually 2~3 pumps is good. Pellets are cheap! Wally Mart sells them. For fun when the grandkids come to visit we turn the light down and shoot at grandmas old candles in the basement. Shooting out the candle is fun for the kids. A groove sawn in a 2 x 4 will hold old poker chips. They like that too!

[Recycled bullet]

I will pile on in addition to what all these other guys have said about the Crosman pump up pistols being a good recommendation.

I taught myself how to shoot handguns in 2010 with a Crosman 1377.

I was faced with the task of the stink bug invasion. For whatever reason there was a Bazilian stink bugs and they all wanted to get into the house that winter all at the same time. They were crawling in through little gaps in the wall of the unfinished basement. The homeowner instructed me that he would like it if I shot all the stink bugs. So I did. That winter I must have gone through at least 5,000 pellets between the stink bugs and shooting at paper targets and by the time February rolled around using Meisterkulgen flat nose wadcutter pellets I could hit a stink bug every single time from across the basement maybe 8 or 10 yards. Stink bug is about a quarter of an inch across.

I don't shoot that gun anymore I wore it out and then something broke. I never bothered fixing it because the trigger is terrible and it's too heavy for what it is and a couple years after that is when I got into guns.

I've been considering a 1322. I just don't like loading the little tiny 17 caliber pellets.

But everything that I learned about shooting that gun still applies today for sure!!!

[schutzen-jager]

jmho - .177 springer -

[porthos]

if i get a .177 c02 pistol what is the average # of shots i can fire per c02 cartridge?

[Recycled bullet]

It's going to depend on the gun. Guns that have a cycling slide will use some of the gas in order to do that. I used to play with a Crosman non reciprocating co2 pistol 177 BB gun I would get about 40 to 50 good shots out of it.

[elmacgyver0]

I have a Crossman 130 pump up pellet pistol in .22 caliber.
It was given to me by the wife of my first boss many years ago after his death.
Had the box and manual still with it.
He had written the date he bought it on the manual, 1958.
It still pumps up and holds air.

[Forrest r]

+/- 20 years ago I was looking for the same thing, a pellet pistol to practice with. I wanted it for the wintertime here in ne ohio. I was a member of an indoor club 15 miles away. Just wanted something I could walk downstairs to the basement and practice with.

After looking around and testing different pellet pistols I decided that if I was going to practice, it should be with something that showed me it was me that did something wrong. Ended up with a pellet pistol that was more accurate than I was, a izh-46M. Cost way more $$$ than I wanted to spend, $240/$250?, can't remember but it was a lot of $$$ for a pellet pistol considering most common 22lr pistols were the same $$$ or less.

https://i.imgur.com/m8L2AWD.jpg

That pellet pistol would hold shots within a 1/4" circle @ 10m (10ring) shot after shot after shot. Of all thing it liked the cheap Gamo wc pellets. I'd order them from pyramid air with the buy 3 get 1 free policy.
https://i.imgur.com/4HAvhnw.jpg

Rebuild kits used to be $6/$7 and it got rebuilt every 6 months. That izh-46M gave me nothing but quality range time & I sold it 3 years ago for $500. Just too old to shoot accurately anymore without support.

[Greg S]

I've got a IZH-46M that I picked up when they first were available. Shot/enjoyed it so much I almost bought a Steyr LP10 but then life got in the way.

[Tracy]

Crosman pump pistols, 1377 (.177) and 1322 (.22). I have both. I also have several other air pistols, but those Crosman pumpers are by far my favorites.

[dverna]

I would get a good CO2 .177 pistol. Pumping gets old. Figure 40-60 shots per cartridge. Most specs. Let you know the shot count.

I buy cartridges in bulk and they are not that expensive. The CO2 pistol I have is target grade and a 5 shot repeater. It is no longer available. My PCP pistol is a Crosman 1701 and it will hold 1/8” groups at 10 meters…but more than your budget.

[charlie b]

I got a Crossman CO2 Mark 2 'Target' pistol a long time ago for the same reason. Cheap practice. I think I got about 30 shots per ctg. As above, buy co2 in bulk and it is fairly inexpensive.

Pump up is a good alternative.

I never mastered springers.

[hoodat]

I was sitting out in the back yard the other day, and a starling lit in a tree - I'm gonna say 30 yards up and away. I'd been shooting at my bow range with the Crossman .22 pumper, and I pumped it five times and took careful aim. It sounded like a fast ball hitting a catchers mitt, and that bird curled his toes and dropped like a rock. I swear that pistol is more accurate than the shock-wave 22 rifle I've got. jd

[15meter]

I've got a IZH-46M that I picked up when they first were available. Shot/enjoyed it so much I almost bought a Steyr LP10 but then life got in the way.

Vote #3 for the Izzy, if you can find a decent used one. Single stroke and it shoots better than I can.

[TNsailorman]

I shot my Crossman 1377 today for the first time after having it for 3 years. Shooting small plastic pill bottles at 25 feet. Accuracy was good once I figured out it was shooting about 4" high at that distance. Trigger leaves much to be desired, heavy and very glitchy. But all in all I had a great time. I am a happy camper so far. james

[elmacgyver0]

I have a "James Bond" Walther .177 springer pellet pistol that I bought from a friend who was selling it for a friend.
He asked me if I wanted it and I said it was only worth $50 to me, but it is worth much more than that.
He said, fifty dollars is fine.
This gun dates back to the 1950s.
It was featured in a movie poster with Sean Connery holding it.
Not the one I have, but just like it.
I believe the actual one Connery was holding sold for about $350,000, the one I have sells for about $350.00
Funny how that all works out isn't it.

[porthos]

are there any "single cock" pellet pistols?? multiple cock seems like a pain. a friend has a air rifle that requires only one cock.

[Recycled bullet]

Look at crosman 2240

[gc45]

+/- 20 years ago I was looking for the same thing, a pellet pistol to practice with. I wanted it for the wintertime here in ne ohio. I was a member of an indoor club 15 miles away. Just wanted something I could walk downstairs to the basement and practice with.

After looking around and testing different pellet pistols I decided that if I was going to practice, it should be with something that showed me it was me that did something wrong. Ended up with a pellet pistol that was more accurate than I was, a izh-46M. Cost way more $$$ than I wanted to spend, $240/$250?, can't remember but it was a lot of $$$ for a pellet pistol considering most common 22lr pistols were the same $$$ or less.

https://i.imgur.com/m8L2AWD.jpg

That pellet pistol would hold shots within a 1/4" circle @ 10m (10ring) shot after shot after shot. Of all thing it liked the cheap Gamo wc pellets. I'd order them from pyramid air with the buy 3 get 1 free policy.
https://i.imgur.com/4HAvhnw.jpg

Rebuild kits used to be $6/$7 and it got rebuilt every 6 months. That izh-46M gave me nothing but quality range time & I sold it 3 years ago for $500. Just too old to shoot accurately anymore without support.

i too have this same pistol, it is scary accurate for me shooting indoors at 40 ft and it loves cheap pellets.

[schutzen-jager]

are there any "single cock" pellet pistols?? multiple cock seems like a pain. a friend has a air rifle that requires only one cock.

any springer is single cocking, + there are some single stroke pneumatics, Daisy 717, 747, venturi + others thay i am not familiar with - agree with you about the pumps + the CO2 are also not that user friendly, due to leakage, velocity variation with temperature changes -

[Recycled bullet]

I have an izh53 which is fun to
Plink at pinecones however it lacks the power and consistency for any real target shooting or hunting. Another one that's not being made anymore is the Benjamin e b 22 imagine if the Crosman 2240 was assembled with brass pieces that are soldered together. It's a little loud but it's good for killing mice and rats inside of 10 yards. I need to get that one rebuilt it leaks when you add CO2 and it also leaks when fired. Jealous of you guys who have the izh 46, saw one in the gun shop in questionable condition for $300, came back the next day and it was gone...

[Recycled bullet]

There are some pellet pistols marketed by Diana. There's a spring piston one and a CO2 one that are both interesting but I've not tried either. I think the CO2 one can be converted between a pistol and a rifle by swapping the barrel and adding a stock.

[TNsailorman]

Just came in from shooting my Crossman 1377 again today and that little thing is very accurate with 7.4 gr. pellets. Shooting distance was 25 feet and it was shooting about 2" high at the distance and I am running out of adjustment to lower the point of aim. Found out also that the problem with the hard and glitchy trigger pull was my fault. My safety feels like it is all the way off when it isn't. There is a slight feel like a detent just before the safety is ALL the way off. I found that out today also and it made a world of difference. With the safety in that little detent the pistol will fire but the trigger pull is really heavy and glitchy. All the way off and the trigger pull is not bad, maybe 4 lbs to 4 1/2 lbs and is fairly smooth. So far I have been impressed with this pistol. james:grin:

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

I like the Gamo PR-45 (single cock)
it's about $150, 400 fps, about a 20 meter range.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK6prMnEZcg

[porthos]

ordered a beeman P-3; will arrive friday!!

[Tripplebeards]

I love my browning 800 express 22 cal springer pistol. Made by Hatsan I believe. They still make similar single cocking pistols. It was adversely as the most powerful single cock pistol at the time I bought it over a decade ago. I took it apart and lightened the trigger. Almost didn’t get the darn thing back together. It was a project. It’s a tac driver. I’ve taken a lot of squirrels and rabbits with it out to 30 plus yards.

I believe Hatsan makes a 25 QE spring pistol that looks similar to my browning.

[Tracy]

I don't like springers, for several reasons. If you like them, have fun.
I have a couple of single stroke pneumatics; a Daisy target rifle and a Beeman P17 pistol that I bought because a lot of people list it as their favorite air pistol. It only takes one stroke, but it's a hard stroke. It's much easier to pump my 1377 3 strokes than to do the one stroke of the P17. And about the same power, too. While also having the ability to pump it 10 strokes and have more than double the power of the P17.

I think a lot of people who say they get tired of pumping a MPP don't realize that there is no need to pump it all the way up all the time. I rarely give mine the full ten; most of the time I only use 3 strokes and sometimes only two.

I do like co2 guns, but I shoot my pumpers way more. I can grab a pumper and shoot a few shots in less time than it takes to get a co2 gun ready. And it's cheaper because I'm not having to use a 50 cent or more co2 cartridge.

[pietro]

are there any "single cock" pellet pistols?? multiple cock seems like a pain. a friend has a air rifle that requires only one cock.

Yes - they are usually referred to as "springers", because after cocking the now compressed spring drives a piston into the propelling gas chamber.

This is my Webley Tempest ( the target version is the Hurricane). Both are cocked for each shot via pivoting the hinged barrel up for manual loading.

These are available in either .177 or .22 cal.

They are issued with plastic fantastic grip panels, so for mine, I fashioned combat-style grip panels from some Walnut I had laying around.

I find that the slow pace of shooting these to be very relaxing.


https://i.imgur.com/jg5NcPtl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LirtSN9m.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/WBbIVMBl.jpg

[schutzen-jager]

another bonus of those Webley pistol have a recoil pulse similar to cartridge pistols - + in pest control and hunting all springers have a vast advantage over any pump gun in reloading, + the velocity, temperature variations, + leakage associated in the CO2 types -

[Recycled bullet]

Yes - they are usually referred to as "springers", because after cocking the now compressed spring drives a piston into the propelling gas chamber.

This is my Webley Tempest ( the target version is the Hurricane). Both are cocked for each shot via pivoting the hinged barrel up for manual loading.

These are available in either .177 or .22 cal.

They are issued with plastic fantastic grip panels, so for mine, I fashioned combat-style grip panels from some Walnut I had laying around.

I find that the slow pace of shooting these to be very relaxing.


https://i.imgur.com/jg5NcPtl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LirtSN9m.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/WBbIVMBl.jpgHow is the power level? Can you break bottles and kill rats?

[schutzen-jager]

they are rated at 420 fps in .177 - can be more or less with different weight + shape pellets - will brake glass soda + beer, bottles, never shot a rat, but works on large crows raiding my bird feeders - never had a .22

[Recycled bullet]

they are rated at 420 fps in .177 - can be more or less with different weight + shape pellets - will brake glass soda + beer, bottles, never shot a rat, but works on large crows raiding my bird feeders - never had a .22Thank you

[Tripplebeards]

This is the same as my 22 cal version. As stated above if you don’t have strong wrists, it’s not for you. It doesn’t bother me. It’s super powerful! I get pass throughs on small game out to 30+ yards using rocket pellets and H&N terminators. Lightening the trigger pull to just over a pound and a half, give or take, made a huge difference in long range accuracy.


https://youtu.be/b0DCTCi13DQ?si=Hma3_MUfvRuLlHig

Hatsan still makes a version of it but calls it something different now. IMO the 22 cal version is the one to get. I’ve had mine since around 2010’ and it’s still rock solid and going strong with zero issues.

[Deltadart 106]

The Crosman 1377 is a great choice, there are many upgrades available for it, Marauder trigger group, barrels, barrel adapters, shoulder stocks, scopes, an.d so on They are accurate pistols. Crosman premier pellets are pretty accurate out of them as well, just like the pcp Marauders pistol or rifle.

[6string]

I love air pistol. It is the best thing for marksmanship technique.
The Daisy 717 and 777 are good values and good performers. (The 777 has the Lothar Walther barrel and metal sights.)
Don Nygord, noted gunsmith and competitive pistol shooter, set a National air pistol record with one.

Here's a link to the PDF for his modifications:

https://airgunwarriors.com/resources/library/Daisy_717_Don_Nygord_Mods.pdf

My preference os for the true "match grade" air pistols, such as Pardini, Steyr, Feinwerkbau, Walther, etc.

This is my Feinwerkbau FWB80, 10 shots offhand (one hand) at 10 meters.

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