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porthos
05-11-2024, 03:02 PM
there is or was an inletting grease for marking the wood when inletting. i have a couple tubes but can't locate it. what is it called and who makes it. i know that i can make my own; but it is upsetting me as to what it is called and who made it. getting old is a bitch! NEVER MIND did a little more research and came up with "prussian blue". ordered some. now i will probably find what i already have.

nuclearcricket
05-11-2024, 03:09 PM
Brownells used to sell it, would think that they still would. Jarrets in-letting black I think was the name of it. came in a small pot if I remember right.
Sam

country gent
05-11-2024, 03:17 PM
Lipstick works in a bind and being wax based dosnt stain the wood ( or your hands) as bad

schutzen-jager
05-11-2024, 03:59 PM
lampblack was one sold buy Fajens way back when -

roysha
05-11-2024, 06:47 PM
Prussian blue, Permatex #80038 applied to the metal with a soft toothbrush.

nicholst55
05-11-2024, 07:17 PM
Looks like nobody offers it any longer - or it's permanently out of stock. Try Kiwi black shoe polish in the round can, or lipstick.

Der Gebirgsjager
05-11-2024, 07:33 PM
Most of the time I used Jarret's Inletting Black from Brownell's. Once or twice, Prussian Blue. It doesn't matter which you use, because you're sure to get it on your hands, and then your nose will start to itch.

DG

ulav8r
05-11-2024, 08:50 PM
I bought Jerrows from Brownells in 1977.

https://logcabinshop.com/catalog.php?path=184_160_142&product_id=25991

roysha
05-11-2024, 10:32 PM
Looks like nobody offers it any longer - or it's permanently out of stock. Try Kiwi black shoe polish in the round can, or lipstick.

I'm assuming your response is to my post for Prussian Blue. I found it at J B TOOLS (157 in stock), AMAZON and numerous other places. AMAZON specifically states that it is NOT discontinued. No big deal, but just in case anyone is interested.

country gent
05-12-2024, 10:29 AM
Dukem still has it in their 109 scrapping blue they offer it in blue red green I believe.

waksupi
05-12-2024, 11:26 AM
I built a couple hundred guns using old motor oil, applied with a small brush. Shows up well on walnut, a bit harder to see on maple. Easy clean up with paint or lacquer thinner. With inletting black, I always ended up looking like I had on black face by the end of the day.

Rockindaddy
05-12-2024, 12:36 PM
Am an old stock maker. An old kerosene lamp or a lit candle works great. Hold your barrel or action over the flame and the lamp black gets applied. The lampblack from the flame is transfered to the wood when pressing the part to the stock. The wood does not have any oil or grease absorbed that would ruin the varnish or oil finish that later gets applied when all sanded and finished wood is ready.

M-Tecs
05-12-2024, 04:36 PM
Am an old stock maker. An old kerosene lamp or a lit candle works great. Hold your barrel or action over the flame and the lamp black gets applied. The lampblack from the flame is transfered to the wood when pressing the part to the stock. The wood does not have any oil or grease absorbed that would ruin the varnish or oil finish that later gets applied when all sanded and finished wood is ready.

After turning myself into a Prussian blue mess a couple of times I switched to kerosene lamp. That worked very well for me. After I started shooting High-power Service rifle I switched to using a calcium carbide sight smoker like this one. https://www.champchoice.com/mc-cleaning/oils-cleaning-solvents-applicators/cc-carbide-lamp-sight-smoker-cl20

I do most of the rough fitting on a Bridgeport mill so calcium carbide usage is not an issue. If I was doing a tradition stock blank by hand using inletting screws I would use the kerosene lamp.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnZcdk1oEVc&t=187s

22cf45
05-12-2024, 05:55 PM
Jerrows inletting black is what I've used for 40 years. A little tip, just put a small dab on a sponge you have in a soap dish, pour in a little motor oil. Then use a brush to apply to the metal. You won't be as likely to get it in your eyebrows, ears, etc. then all you have to do is read the black.
Phil

JDHasty
05-13-2024, 12:27 AM
Jerrow’s inletting black. I’ve got a Gunsmoke carbide lamp I use for really fine jobs too. It’s harder to buy carbide than it used to be. Either one generally leaves me looking like a mammy singer when I’m working with them.

M-Tecs
05-13-2024, 12:31 AM
Jerrow’s inletting black. I’ve got a Gunsmoke carbide lamp I use for really fine jobs too. It’s harder to buy carbide than it used to be. Either one generally leaves me looking like a mammy singer when I’m working with them.

https://www.amazon.com/Calcium-Carbide-Miners-Grade-1-00/dp/B078X347X8/ref=sr_1_1?adgrpid=1334808636796036&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.4R3plVtk0xY8hqLJ2ni3YsUFYFA2r1hrp kcFDKGovMEixe-MQ7dwbkNgN67beI_GL5HcmiYBOMb5y9mMZGjzZuyeAMhLErY8a YdL5D1bWQDHfV-7tFZXlSKW0I_ElTqp2XZoyMBVzB0hMO_Af5Bt9EIJA6eUc5mXP IcdRki4zfdeeOjl0jVhKk8iHwU1-9SayEcmjR-vFu1IHjhWsNZzVExXmQma28KIKQEuswjqUQkbx6M7e4GcNrj4O U4dICSXw_m7x3td342s1N2cH7m2r7DqQPDr0n9rQG8NX957AlQ .B0My14vE_QUlE7iz1n4_8Im23Hd9JzbaUxVVmTyr85o&dib_tag=se&hvadid=83425769544304&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=54209&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvtargid=kwd-83426537704108%3Aloc-190&hydadcr=21222_13329916&keywords=calcium%2Bcarbide%2Bfor%2Bsale&qid=1715574581&sr=8-1&th=1

quack1
05-13-2024, 06:32 AM
I've gone through a few jars of Jerrows in 50 some years. Quickly found out using a Q-tip to apply the black keeps from getting myself coated with the stuff. Another plus- when the inletting is done, just throw the Q-tip in the trash.

Rapier
05-13-2024, 09:24 AM
KISS, I just went to a kitchen supply store, 50 years ago, bought an adjustable wick alcohol heat burner and filled it with mineral spirits, it became a metal blackening tool.

nicholst55
05-13-2024, 10:04 AM
I'm assuming your response is to my post for Prussian Blue. I found it at J B TOOLS (157 in stock), AMAZON and numerous other places. AMAZON specifically states that it is NOT discontinued. No big deal, but just in case anyone is interested.

No, I should have specified. I was referring to Jerrow's Inletting Black (and Gold). I guess since everyone has gone to plastic or synthetic stocks, nobody has a need for inletting black any longer. I checked several places that advertise it, but it's either out of stock or no longer available.

22cf45
05-13-2024, 12:16 PM
Smoking the metal with various lamps will indeed work but it is very slow.

mvozz
05-13-2024, 12:28 PM
I am working on a 10/22 project and need to float the barrel. I was just wondering about marking the stock for inletting. Perfect timing for this thread!!!

LAGS
05-13-2024, 02:32 PM
I picked up two tubes of Prussian Blue from auto parts store.
Not all carry it. But they almost all carry the permatex supplies , so they could order it for you

Shawlerbrook
05-13-2024, 02:39 PM
Dykem blue.

Mk42gunner
05-13-2024, 07:12 PM
The last few wood stocks I have messed with, I used a mixture of black oil based paint and motor oil. It isn't as messy as lipstick and is easier to see than plain oil.

Robert

muskeg13
05-13-2024, 08:27 PM
I just got a 4D Rentals catalog in the mail today and this was on the back:
326559

Rapier
05-14-2024, 08:15 AM
Would suggest a set of action inletting screws with T handles, These oversized screws make the repetitive putting in and taking out of the receiver metal and bottom metal quite a bit easier. If you want to glass bed, add an additional 1/8" relief all around for the glass, with under cuts and small bit cross drilling to hold the glass onto the walls.

405grain
05-14-2024, 03:43 PM
Just last week I finished the inletting and barrel channel on a stock I'm carving. I use Kiwi black shoe polish that's thinned a little bit with paint thinner, then applied to the barrel/receiver with an acid brush. Another method that I've used is to draw on the metal parts with a black dry-erase marker, but the shoe polish works better. Prussian blue is more of a machinist's tool for indicating high spots on metallic surfaces, and it has a tendency to stain both wood and fingers. It would not be one of my choices for stock work. I tried lipstick a couple of years ago and immediately rejected it. Not only is it messy and stains the wood, but it doesn't offer a good enough contrast to really see where contact is being made. Soot from a kerosene lamp would give a very even black coating to the metal surfaces, and would mark the high spots on the wood well, but doing the application with thinned shoe polish was so easy to do that I didn't bother with other methods.

JDHasty
05-14-2024, 03:46 PM
You can get Jerrows Inletting Black

https://thegunworks.com/shop/custom-gun-building-parts/gun-care-products/stock-finishing/inletting-black/

Reg
05-14-2024, 05:57 PM
I started using Jerrow’s inletting black about when it came out and was shown in the Brownells catalog about 1967. I tried other things but always came back to it. A couple years ago I ran out of what I had on hand and after looking saw it was still out there but at $10.00 for a little one ounce bottle then you had to pay shipping decided to try to make my own. If someone made it first why couldn’t I make it second? Started with petroleum jelly as a base then added bone black for color. It was too thick once the color was right so I thinned it with a bit of mineral oil. Perfect!
I don’t know what they use to make the stuff but this concoction to me at least looks and uses the same.

KenT7021
05-14-2024, 06:42 PM
The last Jerrows I bought was labeled not
for sale in Ca.

JDHasty
05-15-2024, 02:29 PM
When I ordered Jerrow's a few weeks ago from Muzzle Laoding Emporium that I provided above I ordered four. While we were chatting I mentioned that it's been hard for some folks to find recently. I think he said they had something like 177 in stock. Treebone has been low on it for a while.