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abunaitoo
03-31-2024, 07:07 PM
So I'm helping a friends daughter clean out a few storage lockers.
So far just looking and moving things around.
BUT.........................
I got an old craftsman arc welder.
Looks to be in clean good condition.
Missing the leads.
Haven't tried to plug it in.
Anyone here know where I might find some leads for it????
Also have two bags of molds to try and sort out.
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elmacgyver0
03-31-2024, 07:17 PM
Ebay?

HWooldridge
03-31-2024, 07:26 PM
A welding shop could make them for you. That’s a little guy, but it will probably work for hobby projects.

abunaitoo
03-31-2024, 07:51 PM
I did check evil bay, but nothing.
Did a web search, but nothing to.
Looked on the Sears web site, but again nothing too.

MaryB
03-31-2024, 08:25 PM
Probably standard lead connections... take it to a welding shop and have them test fit some leads... if the connector fits they can make whatever length you want

Firebricker
04-02-2024, 10:11 AM
Those old machines are really pretty good. You just have to use good ac rods with it.

timboslice
04-02-2024, 10:25 AM
If you don't want to go to a welding shop, take it to a community college that has a welding program. The folks working in the welding department have probably worked with something similar in the past or collect them. They would know what to do.

Really awesome find though! These old welders are indestructible; I have an old Lincoln Tombstone AC/DC welder that still lays great beads.

Electrod47
04-02-2024, 03:10 PM
Ahhhhh..The old Crackerbox.

Shopdog
04-02-2024, 06:09 PM
We had a Craftsman machine come through here 20'ish? years ago....

The cable end wasn't anything I'd ever seen before as it seemed *proprietary. The machine worked fine,and sent it down the road.

*Thinking back.... and not like those ends couldn't be turned on a lathe rather quickly. Or,the whole thing be converted to a more conventional setup.

Good luck with your machine.

Mk42gunner
04-02-2024, 06:29 PM
I used to work for Sears, back when you had to look up parts on microfiche. Sears didn't actually build anything, they had it built and put their name on it. With the model number you can search online and find out just who built that welder, then find out what kind of fitting you need for the leads.

It will probably work better than any homeowner grade welder made now.

Robert

Winger Ed.
04-02-2024, 06:43 PM
Sears had a lot of special fittings on their tools so you'd have to buy their branded consumable parts.
I saw it on sanders & grinders a lot.
But it's easy enough to work around them on most tools.
It shouldn't be much of a problem for your welder.

challenger_i
04-02-2024, 07:29 PM
Before you get too involved, check the diodes to see if they are good. By the looks of the outer housing, the welding unit hasn't seen a hard life, but I would check it out before spending the coin on new leads.
Can't speak for the Islands Region, but in my area the local hardware stores and farm supply's generally have welding machine components. If not, your local Air Gas will have what you need.

Slick machine you have there! :)

Rockindaddy
04-02-2024, 11:48 PM
If all else fails and you cannot find the plugs; you might carefully measure the inside diameter of the sockets and take a connector that is available and turn down the brass end to fit the socket. You might split the finished end to allow the plug to be inserted and removed easily. You can find welding wire. My buddy owns a scrap yard. Often people bring him copper welding cables for scrap. You might check your local scrap/ metals recycling yard for welding cables you can purchase for way less than new cables. Good luck! That's an AC machine. You will need 6018 coated welding rods.

deltaenterprizes
04-03-2024, 02:57 AM
A small cracker box like that will have short light leads because of the low amperage.
The little Craftsman welder has left gut leads like the whip on a conventional welder and a her are attached to the machine.
I have not measured them but I am guessing that they are about 4 gauge and 6 feet long.
My machine was built in the late 80s or early 90s so it is a little newer than yours.

abunaitoo
04-03-2024, 06:21 PM
Just another project I'll have to find time to work on.
Going to open it up and see if everything looks good inside.
Then i can see what the leads look like.
I have done a web search, but didn't come up with anything.
Sears parts web site didn't have much about it.
I wonder how old it is?????

elmacgyver0
04-03-2024, 06:50 PM
Looks like it is a straight AC machine, should be fine.
You can make cords for it, I have faith in you.
Have fun!

rgsumpter
04-04-2024, 09:05 AM
There is not much to these AC buzz boxes. Mainly just a switch and a transformer with several taps on it. As others have said you should be able to find the plugs for the front at a welding shop and even some local hardware stores will carry them. If not you should be able to make them from brass if you still have your lathe. It is hard to see what plugs it uses from your pictures. The welding leads themselves are generic and with the lower amperage and shorter leads you should be able to use smaller wire gauge. That is good as welding leads are heavy copper and expensive. Here is a link to a chart and it looks like you can go as small as 8 gauge. https://www.electronicshub.org/welding-cable-size-chart/ With its lower amperage you should be able to use 3/32 and smaller rod to do a lot of welding with it.

rgsumpter
04-04-2024, 11:10 PM
Here is some 6ga 10' leads. https://www.amazon.com/Shirbly-Battery-Automotive-Generator-Standard/dp/B0CDLMWB1L/ref=sr_1_51_sspa?crid=3CL6MQGAL7C00&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.AjAA9mbrWHoW1HLObwTLRNI5V2zRvVRkL qKlbWh1O0fTDouI0REAhhDn4iXrr3hqxcI09qjTCSdt3SWUCxo _ix80lK9X6aBykrYrEfB2st4.YbfiBsmr-jamQyh2TGucMP5-ICL9BPhRjFlfYXcGH-c&dib_tag=se&keywords=welding+leads&qid=1712286428&sprefix=welding+leads%2Caps%2C160&sr=8-51-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGZfbmV4dA&psc=1

And a stinger https://www.amazon.com/KSEIBI-331215-Welding-Electrode-American/dp/B01NCNEF7U/ref=sr_1_14_sspa?crid=1JHAVZ7EYEQ0P&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.bT7zryBuYekJcLEd6LqUzxVjgxYzGDOxU ziEWETk7Q3-itdegzSJsfKOQpN_tdKXxutO8lI4sjdAkcMYbcJ7iAvWyvjemI WzTO-K3DPK0ZGHwMRnRBM0YyZQoR4-GbVFAS_P9djL-I0cn5kk0Cr9mT1kSotyo3sNssxyUWhTHZjygv6W-elZNjV-AGCDSXoGaUWVMF-cX-Eye5Q3dGFnpmBO12avascCRoskV4ZHIjWZJSv9y8U81Eroovrx WFe5QoHlSZieKeocG0B8jCZuzX0etSNeP_RE5ChScS-kQSQ.nCal3GhTj8qUHMaqVwV0upA6WqeZ8Ydmb3uuyB4VwCE&dib_tag=se&keywords=welding+stinger+for+stick&qid=1712286519&sprefix=welding+stinger%2Caps%2C161&sr=8-14-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY&psc=1&smid=A1MMMNOF8LHVZ9

And a couple of ground clamps .

https://www.amazon.com/Luckyweld-Welding-Ground-Clamp-Suitable/dp/B0BBWCFVKJ/ref=sr_1_4_sspa?crid=GUGTSKF998NY&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.F8VbzJK18di0uq717pPeCFKX80ecaL55e EDCAzkscCpxzmwdmhkn8KE_JFehq0BzyIpBZsA3YGO0oePikPx GsxHUqMwI2C_Jqn8GTnEeFY1r3hl-RjOr21iOiWivJiNOQY3Og9IUeI2JXRZ0xZOWWBKnFqfp1zDtG-8n43TIN02M0ZIUdkmTRzlMgV9k4UgOWPln_6HeqZZ2cJMraAH-vq8sr21puvc5SFAxbcdYoIbvCpvOQx9ETGeQEtr0ODpeCWCm97 fwcyxBPJsSdfNNGVuDKSWfQF3zHxVd2KbemCo.w3FoA_VFVeas N3WqclyzS21M40bky7eumFYVL1TSK_k&dib_tag=se&keywords=welding+ground+clamp&qid=1712286576&sprefix=welding+ground%2Caps%2C170&sr=8-4-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Vaphy-300-Amp-T-Style-Welding-Clamp/dp/B0C9CZVFKY/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=GUGTSKF998NY&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.F8VbzJK18di0uq717pPeCFKX80ecaL55e EDCAzkscCpxzmwdmhkn8KE_JFehq0BzyIpBZsA3YGO0oePikPx GsxHUqMwI2C_Jqn8GTnEeFY1r3hl-RjOr21iOiWivJiNOQY3Og9IUeI2JXRZ0xZOWWBKnFqfp1zDtG-8n43TIN02M0ZIUdkmTRzlMgV9k4UgOWPln_6HeqZZ2cJMraAH-vq8sr21puvc5SFAxbcdYoIbvCpvOQx9ETGeQEtr0ODpeCWCm97 fwcyxBPJsSdfNNGVuDKSWfQF3zHxVd2KbemCo.w3FoA_VFVeas N3WqclyzS21M40bky7eumFYVL1TSK_k&dib_tag=se&keywords=welding+ground+clamp&qid=1712286630&sprefix=welding+ground%2Caps%2C170&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

MaryB
04-05-2024, 11:41 AM
Here is some 6ga 10' leads. https://www.amazon.com/Shirbly-Battery-Automotive-Generator-Standard/dp/B0CDLMWB1L/ref=sr_1_51_sspa?crid=3CL6MQGAL7C00&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.AjAA9mbrWHoW1HLObwTLRNI5V2zRvVRkL qKlbWh1O0fTDouI0REAhhDn4iXrr3hqxcI09qjTCSdt3SWUCxo _ix80lK9X6aBykrYrEfB2st4.YbfiBsmr-jamQyh2TGucMP5-ICL9BPhRjFlfYXcGH-c&dib_tag=se&keywords=welding+leads&qid=1712286428&sprefix=welding+leads%2Caps%2C160&sr=8-51-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGZfbmV4dA&psc=1

And a stinger https://www.amazon.com/KSEIBI-331215-Welding-Electrode-American/dp/B01NCNEF7U/ref=sr_1_14_sspa?crid=1JHAVZ7EYEQ0P&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.bT7zryBuYekJcLEd6LqUzxVjgxYzGDOxU ziEWETk7Q3-itdegzSJsfKOQpN_tdKXxutO8lI4sjdAkcMYbcJ7iAvWyvjemI WzTO-K3DPK0ZGHwMRnRBM0YyZQoR4-GbVFAS_P9djL-I0cn5kk0Cr9mT1kSotyo3sNssxyUWhTHZjygv6W-elZNjV-AGCDSXoGaUWVMF-cX-Eye5Q3dGFnpmBO12avascCRoskV4ZHIjWZJSv9y8U81Eroovrx WFe5QoHlSZieKeocG0B8jCZuzX0etSNeP_RE5ChScS-kQSQ.nCal3GhTj8qUHMaqVwV0upA6WqeZ8Ydmb3uuyB4VwCE&dib_tag=se&keywords=welding+stinger+for+stick&qid=1712286519&sprefix=welding+stinger%2Caps%2C161&sr=8-14-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY&psc=1&smid=A1MMMNOF8LHVZ9

And a couple of ground clamps .

https://www.amazon.com/Luckyweld-Welding-Ground-Clamp-Suitable/dp/B0BBWCFVKJ/ref=sr_1_4_sspa?crid=GUGTSKF998NY&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.F8VbzJK18di0uq717pPeCFKX80ecaL55e EDCAzkscCpxzmwdmhkn8KE_JFehq0BzyIpBZsA3YGO0oePikPx GsxHUqMwI2C_Jqn8GTnEeFY1r3hl-RjOr21iOiWivJiNOQY3Og9IUeI2JXRZ0xZOWWBKnFqfp1zDtG-8n43TIN02M0ZIUdkmTRzlMgV9k4UgOWPln_6HeqZZ2cJMraAH-vq8sr21puvc5SFAxbcdYoIbvCpvOQx9ETGeQEtr0ODpeCWCm97 fwcyxBPJsSdfNNGVuDKSWfQF3zHxVd2KbemCo.w3FoA_VFVeas N3WqclyzS21M40bky7eumFYVL1TSK_k&dib_tag=se&keywords=welding+ground+clamp&qid=1712286576&sprefix=welding+ground%2Caps%2C170&sr=8-4-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Vaphy-300-Amp-T-Style-Welding-Clamp/dp/B0C9CZVFKY/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=GUGTSKF998NY&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.F8VbzJK18di0uq717pPeCFKX80ecaL55e EDCAzkscCpxzmwdmhkn8KE_JFehq0BzyIpBZsA3YGO0oePikPx GsxHUqMwI2C_Jqn8GTnEeFY1r3hl-RjOr21iOiWivJiNOQY3Og9IUeI2JXRZ0xZOWWBKnFqfp1zDtG-8n43TIN02M0ZIUdkmTRzlMgV9k4UgOWPln_6HeqZZ2cJMraAH-vq8sr21puvc5SFAxbcdYoIbvCpvOQx9ETGeQEtr0ODpeCWCm97 fwcyxBPJsSdfNNGVuDKSWfQF3zHxVd2KbemCo.w3FoA_VFVeas N3WqclyzS21M40bky7eumFYVL1TSK_k&dib_tag=se&keywords=welding+ground+clamp&qid=1712286630&sprefix=welding+ground%2Caps%2C170&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

That top wire is going to be way to stiff to use as a welding lead... You can form it into a spiral and it will stand up on its own! Stuff is STIFF.

farmbif
04-05-2024, 11:53 AM
the stinger/wellding lead and ground leads are nothing special. just heavy gauge wire like good jumper cables with fine threads of wire inside. the ends attach seperately with set screws. those old craftsman machines mostly used a plug with like a round, might be 3/8", straight copper shaft about 1 1/4" long that plugs into machine and on the end of the ground you use a clamp rated for however many amps the machine is although 200 amp spring clamp is very common. and on the end of the welding or stinger lead you want an insulated welding rod holder there are a few types but a spring type hand lever type is very common. your ground lead wire does is usually a smaller gauge wire so for example #2 wire for thew ground lead and #1 wire for the welding rod holder. these things are available at many stores like Menards, rural king, tractor supply, Northern hydraulics, farmers coop, and of course at all welding and gas supply stores like Airgas.
you could use a heavy duty set of jumper cables just to test machine if you have a little round copper or brass. bolts or rod to put in the receptacles on front of machine

on closer look of your pictures I'm not sure what kind of receptacles are on that machine so disregard what I wrote about the use of 3/8" round plugs. but once you find the right plugs for the machine putting together leads is easy and with only 90 amps you can use smaller wire than #2 and #1

abunaitoo
04-05-2024, 02:59 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions.
I will try to get to it and take some picture.

Dutchman
04-05-2024, 05:16 PM
I lathe turned a couple ends from brass as it was all I had at the time. Worked fine.

3/4" copper round $4.28 per inch plus shipping. I would check Home Depot for grounding rod first before spending $$ on this. You'll probably need minimum 3" to make a couple ends.
https://www.speedymetals.com/pc-2944-8206-34-rd-ca-110-copper.aspx

For the power cord I bought a 30 foot RV 50 amp cord. It runs on a separate 50 amp 220vac outlet.

https://images34.fotki.com/v1200/photos/4/28344/9161136/DSCF2542np-vi.jpg (https://public.fotki.com/dutchman/shaper-arc-welder/dscf2542np.html)

https://images49.fotki.com/v1674/photos/4/28344/9161136/DSCF3318x-vi.jpg (https://public.fotki.com/dutchman/shaper-arc-welder/dscf18x.html)

https://images46.fotki.com/v1224/photos/4/28344/9161136/DSCF2358-vi.jpg (https://public.fotki.com/dutchman/shaper-arc-welder/dscf2358.html)

Dutchman
04-05-2024, 09:16 PM
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=dinse+connectors+for+welding&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images

abunaitoo
04-06-2024, 01:25 AM
Had some time, inbetween the rain, to open it up.
Looks very clean inside.
Plug is just a tapered pin.
I took one out to take with me to the welding shop.
Wish me luck.
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