Tick Control Via Ivermectin Coated Deer Corn

[steve urquell]

There have been some interesting studies regarding using pour-on Ivermectin mixed with deer corn for tick control. Please check your local laws regarding feeding deer if you choose to proceed with this.

Here are the studies:
https://academic.oup.com/jme/article/60/4/733/7174277?login=false

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8667385/

And the relevant parts of them:
"Control values that were calculated for all ticks collected in both pastures during 1993 showed 83.4% fewer adults, 92.4% fewer nymphs and 100.0% fewer larval masses in the treatment versus control pasture."

Regarding using Pour-on:
"Because it is meant for external pour-on application to cattle, Cydectin contains naphtha petroleum, a light aromatic solvent that helps the product spread and adhere to the animal, providing some protection from the elements as it penetrates the skin and systemically translocates. As a result, we thought the scent of petroleum might be off-putting to white-tailed deer, so we decided first to perform a rudimentary taste test in which we placed several piles of Cydectin Pour-On-treated corn on the ground next to paired piles treated with the less offensive-smelling Cydectin Oral Drench for sheep. Corn treated with Cydectin Oral Drench for sheep remained largely untouched by wild white-tailed deer while the Cydectin Pour-On-treated corn was consumed. As a result, a more rigorous feeding trial with the Pour-On formulation was warranted."

From the study:
Deer ear after 27 days of Ivermectin corn:
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No Ivermectin in corn 0%:
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[floydboy]

I assume this works for dogs also.....We use Ivermectin orally on our dogs on a monthly basis for heartworm prevention. Also have been giving a very expensive tick preventive. Our dogs have no ticks. I always assumed the tick preventive drug was doing it's job. It is very expensive and I forget the name right now. Makes me think the ivermectin may be doing just as much good if not more. Ivermectin is cheap.

Thanks, Floyd

[Fitz]

Ivermectin is your friend, Ive been using it on my garden ,pets and myself for 3 1/2 years now with great results . contrary to your government it's not just a horse wormer

[cwtebay]

Yeah..... you're looking at 30 year old data. The reason that ivermectin resistance is increasing exponentially is because of jackwagons like that underdosing to the point of stupidity. Whomever decided that underdosing the macrocyclic lactones is a good decision should be drawn and quartered. (Ask South Africa)

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[cwtebay]

I live on 24 acres in Arkansas in the woods. Ticks are a problem here. Deer in the yard all the time. I have sprayed gallons of Bifentherin in the past with decent results but really hate that method because of other species that are affected.

I had a patient tell me that he began to mix Ivermectin pour on in deer corn at 1/2 cup per 40lb bag and has had a huge decrease in ticks on his property. I researched it and there are several peer-reviewed studies that show it is effective in reducing tick populations in the 90% range.

I started doing it last year later on in the year and had a good reduction in my tick population. Early spring is really bad here so I just started up again after deer season ended so it wouldn't end up in the meat.

Here are the studies:
https://academic.oup.com/jme/article/60/4/733/7174277?login=false

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8667385/

And the relevant parts of them:
"Control values that were calculated for all ticks collected in both pastures during 1993 showed 83.4% fewer adults, 92.4% fewer nymphs and 100.0% fewer larval masses in the treatment versus control pasture."

Regarding using Pour-on:
"Because it is meant for external pour-on application to cattle, Cydectin contains naphtha petroleum, a light aromatic solvent that helps the product spread and adhere to the animal, providing some protection from the elements as it penetrates the skin and systemically translocates. As a result, we thought the scent of petroleum might be off-putting to white-tailed deer, so we decided first to perform a rudimentary taste test in which we placed several piles of Cydectin Pour-On-treated corn on the ground next to paired piles treated with the less offensive-smelling Cydectin Oral Drench for sheep. Corn treated with Cydectin Oral Drench for sheep remained largely untouched by wild white-tailed deer while the Cydectin Pour-On-treated corn was consumed. As a result, a more rigorous feeding trial with the Pour-On formulation was warranted."

From the study:
Deer ear after 27 days of Ivermectin corn:
324434

No Ivermectin in corn 0%:
324435

I have a bottle I measured and marked for 1/2 cup
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I tried a paint mixer on my drill but found it easier just to use my hands to mix it with dishwashing gloves
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My feeder hangs from a cable I threw over a limb. I fill it from my truck bed. Feeds at 6:30 AM/PM
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Deer sampling my wares last night.
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Last year after feeding for several weeks I walked thru my field and had zero ticks on me. I did not spray any poison last year and it was still the most tick-free year I had spent living here for the last 24 years. This spring will really be the test of this. Last year I had ticks crawling over rubber boots saturated in high% Deet before I started feeding Ivermectin treated corn.

When it was approaching deer season last year I switched feeding to Cydectin which does not go into the meat. It is more expensive though so I may just stop feeding Ivermectin this year 3 weeks before deer season.Oh - and yes!! Moxidectin does go "into meat"https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14606429/

So do eprinectin, doramectin, etc, ad nauseum.

[steve urquell]

I assume this works for dogs also.....We use Ivermectin orally on our dogs on a monthly basis for heartworm prevention. Also have been giving a very expensive tick preventive. Our dogs have no ticks. I always assumed the tick preventive drug was doing it's job. It is very expensive and I forget the name right now. Makes me think the ivermectin may be doing just as much good if not more. Ivermectin is cheap.

Thanks, Floyd
Thanks. I don't know the ppm required to keep dogs tick free so that would require research.

[steve urquell]

Ivermectin is your friend, Ive been using it on my garden ,pets and myself for 3 1/2 years now with great results . contrary to your government it's not just a horse wormer
Thank you sir. Reply below is not directed at you.

I will not reply to the person trolling above. Just a waste of time but for the members who know how to reply in a civil manner. The second report was published in 2023 and here is what it says about Cydectin/moxidectin transmission into meat.

"The United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) requires a 0-day withdrawal period for use of Cydectin in beef and lactating cattle (NIH 2020); meat and milk from treated cattle can be consumed at any time post-treatment. The 0-day withdrawal period may translate well for use in white-tailed deer for control of ectoparasites during state-regulated hunting seasons when there is a high possibility of a human taking and consuming an animal"

[Fitz]

You know it Steve

[steve urquell]

You know it Steve

:cast_boolits::cast_boolits:

[Delkal]

Your ivermectin dose is a little high. The paper uses 10 mg of ivermectin per pound of corn. So thats 2 ml of the pour-on per pound of corn. With 40 pounds of corn that is 80 ml which is 1/3 of a cup. I don't think dosing them 1.5x that will hurt them but it is not needed and it will reduce your cost.

And be careful about letting people know what you are doing. I know some scientists did it but the pour-on is not licensed for oral use and probably not for game animals either. The wrong fed knocking on your door can ruin your day.

[rancher1913]

the label has a withdrawal time for slaughter. not to sure its worth worrying about as most country folks use ivermectin paste on their toast.

[cwtebay]

Thank you sir. Reply below is not directed at you.

I will not reply to the person trolling above. Just a waste of time but for the members who know how to reply in a civil manner. The second report was published in 2023 and here is what it says about Cydectin/moxidectin transmission into meat.

"The United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) requires a 0-day withdrawal period for use of Cydectin in beef and lactating cattle (NIH 2020); meat and milk from treated cattle can be consumed at any time post-treatment. The 0-day withdrawal period may translate well for use in white-tailed deer for control of ectoparasites during state-regulated hunting seasons when there is a high possibility of a human taking and consuming an animal"Definitely not trolling. Do your research. Enjoy your post and your day!!! Peace out!

I guess one parting thought - tried buying a bottle of penicillin or LA200 from your local feed store lately??
This type of thought is the reason.

[Delkal]

Thanks. I don't know the ppm required to keep dogs tick free so that would require research.

Do not use livestock grade ivermectin on a dog. Dogs are extremely sensitive to ivermectin so the rules about dose per kilogram for other animals including humans do not apply. Its been years but I think when I calculated the dose for my dog it was something like 0.02 ml or less of the injectable given orally. You can not measure that out with a standard syringe and its not worth the risk ODing your pet.

[steve urquell]

Your ivermectin dose is a little high. The paper uses 10 mg of ivermectin per pound of corn. So thats 2 ml of the pour-on per pound of corn. With 40 pounds of corn that is 80 ml which is 1/3 of a cup. I don't think dosing them 1.5x that will hurt them but it is not needed and it will reduce your cost.

And be careful about letting people know what you are doing. I know some scientists did it but the pour-on is not licensed for oral use and probably not for game animals either. The wrong fed knocking on your door can ruin your day.

You are correct on dosage.

[steve urquell]

the label has a withdrawal time for slaughter. not to sure its worth worrying about as most country folks use ivermectin paste on their toast.

The time requirement per Merck is 8-14 days.

Cydectin is 0 days.

[dverna]

From what I recall, most tick borne diseases are transmitted from ticks infecting mice.

But if this idea worked, feeding deer in MI is illegal due to TB and CWD. I suspect that applies to other states with deer disease issues. Our DNR enforces it too.

I got Lyme disease last year. I wish there was something we could take. I invested a few hundred dollars in treated jeans and shirts from Insect Shield. Never had a tick after wearing them.

[Mk42gunner]

...

I got Lyme disease last year. I wish there was something we could take. I invested a few hundred dollars in treated jeans and shirts from Insect Shield. Never had a tick after wearing them.
Don, a few years ago I got Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever from a tick. Not necessarily a fun thing, but it was obvious there was something wrong. First tick bite in my life that looked like I had a marble under the skin.

Anyway, since then I have been using permethrin on my clothes and boots during tick season. Supposed to last six weeks between treatments.

Results: zero ticks on me for the last five years or so.

Hope this helps,


Robert

[dverna]

Don, a few years ago I got Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever from a tick. Not necessarily a fun thing, but it was obvious there was something wrong. First tick bite in my life that looked like I had a marble under the skin.

Anyway, since then I have been using permethrin on my clothes and boots during tick season. Supposed to last six weeks between treatments.

Results: zero ticks on me for the last five years or so.

Hope this helps,


Robert

Robert, the clothes from Insect Shield are treated with the same chemical but they are rated for 70 washings or 10 years.

My whole forearm swelled up and I was lucky it did not get worse. Antibiotics seemed to have beat it down but I know it can take years for the effects to surface. Mine was from a deer tick.

[poppy42]

Do not use livestock grade ivermectin on a dog. Dogs are extremely sensitive to ivermectin so the rules about dose per kilogram for other animals including humans do not apply. Its been years but I think when I calculated the dose for my dog it was something like 0.02 ml or less of the injectable given orally. You can not measure that out with a standard syringe and its not worth the risk ODing your pet.
You sir are about 1,000 wrong! The dose is .1 ml per 10 lb of weight! If your dog weighs 100 lb 1 ml (or cc). And you can most definitely use a standard syringe.The one breed of dogs that is ivermectin sensitive is collie’s! It is perfectly safe for non collie breeds! Ask any vet! It is the main ingredient in heart worm preventative. As a mater of fact it is a less invasive treatment for heart worm than the treatment some vets push on people! Furthermore the only difference between livestock and human grade is the livestock grade hasn’t been certified by food and drug admin., it comes from the same place! About the only thing you are correct on is that it is typically injectable given orally.

[pmer]

I live on 24 acres in Arkansas in the woods. Ticks are a problem here. Deer in the yard all the time. I have sprayed gallons of Bifentherin in the past with decent results but really hate that method because of other species that are affected.

I had a patient tell me that he began to mix Ivermectin pour on in deer corn at 1/3 cup per 40lb bag and has had a huge decrease in ticks on his property. I researched it and there are several peer-reviewed studies that show it is effective in reducing tick populations in the 90% range.

I started doing it last year later on in the year and had a good reduction in my tick population. Early spring is really bad here so I just started up again after deer season ended so it wouldn't end up in the meat.

Here are the studies:
https://academic.oup.com/jme/article/60/4/733/7174277?login=false

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8667385/

And the relevant parts of them:
"Control values that were calculated for all ticks collected in both pastures during 1993 showed 83.4% fewer adults, 92.4% fewer nymphs and 100.0% fewer larval masses in the treatment versus control pasture."

Regarding using Pour-on:
"Because it is meant for external pour-on application to cattle, Cydectin contains naphtha petroleum, a light aromatic solvent that helps the product spread and adhere to the animal, providing some protection from the elements as it penetrates the skin and systemically translocates. As a result, we thought the scent of petroleum might be off-putting to white-tailed deer, so we decided first to perform a rudimentary taste test in which we placed several piles of Cydectin Pour-On-treated corn on the ground next to paired piles treated with the less offensive-smelling Cydectin Oral Drench for sheep. Corn treated with Cydectin Oral Drench for sheep remained largely untouched by wild white-tailed deer while the Cydectin Pour-On-treated corn was consumed. As a result, a more rigorous feeding trial with the Pour-On formulation was warranted."

From the study:
Deer ear after 27 days of Ivermectin corn:
324434

No Ivermectin in corn 0%:
324435

I have a bottle I measured and marked for 1/3 cup
324436

I tried a paint mixer on my drill but found it easier just to use my hands to mix it with dishwashing gloves
324437

My feeder hangs from a cable I threw over a limb. I fill it from my truck bed. Feeds at 6:30 AM/PM
324438

Deer sampling my wares last night.
324439

Last year after feeding for several weeks I walked thru my field and had zero ticks on me. I did not spray any poison last year and it was still the most tick-free year I had spent living here for the last 24 years. This spring will really be the test of this. Last year I had ticks crawling over rubber boots saturated in high% Deet before I started feeding Ivermectin treated corn.

When it was approaching deer season last year I switched feeding to Cydectin which the FDA states does not require time to leave the animal before consumption of the meat or milk. It is more expensive though so I may just stop feeding Ivermectin this year 3 weeks before deer season.

The second picture in your post, is that also an ear? Is that hundreds of tick bites, how does animal handle that without treatment? We have deer ticks and the larger wood ticks but seem to have more wood ticks.

What type of tick does that sort of damage?

[steve urquell]

Robert, the clothes from Insect Shield are treated with the same chemical but they are rated for 70 washings or 10 years.

My whole forearm swelled up and I was lucky it did not get worse. Antibiotics seemed to have beat it down but I know it can take years for the effects to surface. Mine was from a deer tick.

I looked at their clothing on Amazon last night. They claim to have a version of Permetherin that lasts longer on clothes. If the claim is true it is a good deal for what you get. They do sell a permetherin spray rated for 60days of effectiveness as well. I have bought a different brand at Walmart in a yellow spray bottle.
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[steve urquell]

The second picture in your post, is that also an ear? Is that hundreds of tick bites, how does animal handle that without treatment? We have deer ticks and the larger wood ticks but seem to have more wood ticks.

What type of tick does that sort of damage?

Yes, the pic is labeled "heavily infested" and those are ticks on top of ticks.

Here in AR if you step off the pavement with the temps >45F you are likely to get ticks on you. I had never seen anything quite like it having lived in TX, AZ, and SC. It is really bad here. My initiation here was looking for a couple of arrows in the woods when my BIL and I were shooting his compound bow. Got hundreds of seed ticks on us.

[owejia]

Had a friend that worked on heavy equipment, was working on a bulldozer in East Arkansas while parked under a tree, told me the ticks were literally raining down on him from the tree. Cool wet spring weather is usually an indicator of lot of ticks. Ivermectin is used to treat humans for worms.

[steve urquell]

Had a friend that worked on heavy equipment, was working on a bulldozer in East Arkansas while parked under a tree, told me the ticks were literally raining down on him from the tree. Cool wet spring weather is usually an indicator of lot of ticks. Ivermectin is used to treat humans for worms.

I haven't had a tick come out of a tree yet. I have had them crawl all the way up my clothes and over my collar or in my sleeve. If they are stuck they are usually down low, especially where you really don't want them. Sometimes in your armpit.

I was walking past my trashcans one day and saw one on the top of it standing on its hind legs reaching out with its front legs. It was waiting to hitch a ride

[dverna]

When I was growing up in Ontario Canada we never had ticks. Or if we did, we did not know it. I would spend hours in the woods and the worst things were mosquitos.

What the heck happened?

[augercreek]

With all this ballyhoo one would hardly know what to use or do! I think I'll just pick the ticks off!

[floydboy]

Poppy42 is correct. Collies and a couple other breeds are sensitive to it. Check the label on Heartguard and the price. I eventually got fed up paying the price for heartworm meds for three dogs at the vets and some still got the worms. I told the wife how did dogs live for thousands of years without meds from the vet. Vets make it sound like your dog is doomed without their meds. I started researching on the web and found out about ivermectin and how to dose it. There is also a method of curing heartworms called the slow kill method. It primarily uses ivermectin and doxycline. takes about a year to a year and a half to work but is much easier on your dog. Cost is not a lot cheaper in the long run but much easier on the owner and the dog. I asked my vet about it and she was totally supportive about using that method. Surprised the heck out of me.

[Delkal]

You sir are about 1,000 wrong! The dose is .1 ml per 10 lb of weight! If your dog weighs 100 lb 1 ml (or cc). And you can most definitely use a standard syringe.The one breed of dogs that is ivermectin sensitive is collie’s! It is perfectly safe for non collie breeds! Ask any vet! It is the main ingredient in heart worm preventative. As a mater of fact it is a less invasive treatment for heart worm than the treatment some vets push on people! Furthermore the only difference between livestock and human grade is the livestock grade hasn’t been certified by food and drug admin., it comes from the same place! About the only thing you are correct on is that it is typically injectable given orally.

Be careful and you should consider talking to your vet about the dose you are giving. I am glad this dose didn't hurt your dog but you are giving over 33x the amount of ivermectin that is in a heartguard tablet. The standard dose for humans, pigs, horses and other livestock is 200 micrograms / kilogram. That works out to a dose of 0.9 ml of the 1% injectable per 100 pounds. This is the standard dose humans take.

But, as I mentioned, dogs are much more sensative and according to the heartguard product insert the dose for dogs is 6 micrograms / kilogram. That means a 100 pound dog should only get 0.027 ml. My dog was about 45 pounds so I would need 12 microliters which is a small amount that you need a specialty microliter syringe if you want to give the recommended dose.

https://heartgard.com/sites/default/files/2021-01/2020_HG_Plus_PI_BI.pdf

[Soundguy]

Wow..huge difference!

[poppy42]

Be careful and you should consider talking to your vet about the dose you are giving. I am glad this dose didn't hurt your dog but you are giving over 33x the amount of ivermectin that is in a heartguard tablet. The standard dose for humans, pigs, horses and other livestock is 200 micrograms / kilogram. That works out to a dose of 0.9 ml of the 1% injectable per 100 pounds. This is the standard dose humans take.

But, as I mentioned, dogs are much more sensative and according to the heartguard product insert the dose for dogs is 6 micrograms / kilogram. That means a 100 pound dog should only get 0.027 ml. My dog was about 45 pounds so I would need 12 microliters which is a small amount that you need a specialty microliter syringe if you want to give the recommended dose.

https://heartgard.com/sites/default/files/2021-01/2020_HG_Plus_PI_BI.pdf

I don’t need to talk to a vet.

[Delkal]

I don’t need to talk to a vet.

If the dose you give doesn't cause any problems you should be OK. My point in my original post was there could be some risk and others should know about this and decide for themselves if it is worth it. I did reread the package insert and at the end they talked about the toxicity and said sensitive breeds should be OK at 10x the dose but it starts at 16x the dose so you can probably give more. But I do have concerns about the general statement that you can give any dog over 33x the recommended dose of ivermectin and they will all be fine.

[Hogtamer]

I took 3 mg ivermectin 64 days in 2021 per MD and never got the dreaded disease or ticks either for that matter. As for ticks if you can stand the racket a flock of guineas will get them all within their range. Guinea and dumplings is good eating too.

[poppy42]

You know I wasn’t going to elaborate I was just gonna leave it alone but sometimes you have to educate people against misinformation. As you so quite nicely have transcribed the label from heart guard medicine. I just wanna ask you two questions do you know the strength of the ivermectin that they’re referring to? Do you know the strength or the percentage of ivermectin that’s in ivermectin injectable? 25 years! That’s how long I’ve worked with rescue organizations. Dozens of vets! Roughly 40 years worth of treating dogs as a preventative and ones that were infected with heartworm. Please stop you’re holier than thou that you can read the label and transcribe it and think that you know everything because you don’t. I’m sure your intentions are good. It’s something that we’re all guilty of sometimes not looking past the end of our noses! Have a nice day have a nice life I’m done you can comment on what I wrote or not I won’t respond!

[poppy42]

I took 3 mg ivermectin 64 days in 2021 per MD and never got the dreaded disease or ticks either for that matter. As for ticks if you can stand the racket a flock of guineas will get them all within their range. Guinea and dumplings is good eating too.
Yes ivermectin has been issued as an antiviral anti-parasitic agent in third world countries because it is a safe, effective, and inexpensive treatment of many diseases that affect certain areas of the world. Unfortunately in this country it’s got the stigma of being a animal warmer. That and the fact that the pharmaceutical companies don’t make buckets of money when physicians prescribe it. I certainly have no idea what dreaded disease you are referring to, naming said disease is not necessary it doesn’t matter what it was. I am certainly no physician myself but I do commend yours for being open minded enough to re-search alternative treatments for whatever it was that was ailing you. I know for a fact that there are several medication‘s that have application both any animal world and has treatments for humans. Unfortunately as I stated above those treatments are generally considerably less expensive. Typically big Pharma would much rather use some new and improved treatment that they can make tons of money off of. Folks should probably be more informed as to what’s being prescribed to them, possible side effects, and whether or not there’s a less expensive form of treatment before acceptance of some thing a doctor tells you just because he’s a doctor. They put their pants on just like everyone else one leg at a time and I know I always do research before excepting what they tell me as being the gospel. Actually I’ve had a physician, with a wink and a nod, tell me hey I can write you a prescription for a minor Affliction but if you go down to the local feed store and pick this up it’s the same thing and it’s a heck of a lot cheaper. Of course never for a life-threatening severe situation. Unfortunately it seems that the Hippocratic oath doesn’t have the same meaning as it once did. Anyway take care glad you’re doing well. Oh yea I don’t work for some company that makes ivermectin I’ve just had some experience with it. Lol

[akajun]

Controlled burning reduces tick numbers as well. What about the sacks of pesticide powder i see hanging under cattle feeders, in barns, etc? I would think that would be effective as well from a trough feeder?

[Mk42gunner]

From what I read on the internet years ago after I got the RMSF, it takes about three hours for the tick to transmit the disease to a human. Which made sense to me because I felt the little bugger bite me behind my knee sitting watching tv. Three hours later when I went to bed, surprise there was a tick.

Next morning a knot the size of a small pecan or marble, so I called the Dr. Between the wild kittens at the farm, the tick and the vampires at the doctor's office, I didn't have a lot of blood left. Two days later a phone call that I did not have Lyme disease, then a day after that a phone call that I did have RMSF.

Since then I pull any ticks or at least inspect suspected tick bites asap. No idea how long it takes to transfer Lyme disease.

steve, I also use the yellow bottled permathrin from Walmart or Academy, whichever has it when I need a new can or bottle.

Robert

[txbirdman]

Going down to the local feed store and picking up meds is not so easy anymore. Last week I was in need of some LA200 antibiotic to doctor an ailing calf. I was told that new regulations required a prescription from a vet to purchase. The nice girl running the cash register told me that her uncle was going into Mexico to get such meds.

[steve urquell]

From what I read on the internet years ago after I got the RMSF, it takes about three hours for the tick to transmit the disease to a human. Which made sense to me because I felt the little bugger bite me behind my knee sitting watching tv. Three hours later when I went to bed, surprise there was a tick.

Next morning a knot the size of a small pecan or marble, so I called the Dr. Between the wild kittens at the farm, the tick and the vampires at the doctor's office, I didn't have a lot of blood left. Two days later a phone call that I did not have Lyme disease, then a day after that a phone call that I did have RMSF.

Since then I pull any ticks or at least inspect suspected tick bites asap. No idea how long it takes to transfer Lyme disease.

steve, I also use the yellow bottled permathrin from Walmart or Academy, whichever has it when I need a new can or bottle.

Robert

Smart move on checking the bite site early and frequently. Any time I pull one off of me I bag it in a ziplock snack baggie and sharpie the date on it, where it was removed from and stick it on the back of the fridge with a magnet. If the bite goes south you have the tick which can be tested for disease.

I think the yellow bottle Permetherin clothing spray is in the camping section with the rest of the OFF products.

[1eyedjack]

The military issued a small o.d. green with black writing bottle of chemicals that was to be applied to pants legs and lasting several washings along with a fold , tuck and tape inside the boots hardly ever had a tick on many field training exercises of course I suspect the military does not know or care who the FDA is !
BTW the VA recently raised my disability rating due to cancer..........

[ulav8r]

From what I recall, most tick borne diseases are transmitted from ticks infecting mice.

But if this idea worked, feeding deer in MI is illegal due to TB and CWD. I suspect that applies to other states with deer disease issues. Our DNR enforces it too.

I got Lyme disease last year. I wish there was something we could take. I invested a few hundred dollars in treated jeans and shirts from Insect Shield. Never had a tick after wearing them.

Can you legally feed corn to squirrels?

[john.k]

probably not........I see a vid of a guy being arrested in Cali for feeding squirrels in his back yard........neighbours ratted (or squirelled) him out.

[NyFirefighter357]

From what I recall, most tick borne diseases are transmitted from ticks infecting mice.

But if this idea worked, feeding deer in MI is illegal due to TB and CWD. I suspect that applies to other states with deer disease issues. Our DNR enforces it too.

I got Lyme disease last year. I wish there was something we could take. I invested a few hundred dollars in treated jeans and shirts from Insect Shield. Never had a tick after wearing them.

DIY tick tubes used to control ticks through rodents. Basically use toilet paper, paper towel or pvc tubes and treat cotton or dryer lint with permethrin. Starting in early spring. The rodents use the treated material for nesting coating them selves with it and as ticks emerge and are looking for a host they are poisoned with contact of the mice.

Instructions

If using paper towel rolls, cut each roll into 3 sections.
Put on your gloves and protective eyewear.
Combine 4 parts water with 1 part permethrin (ex: 4 cups water and 1 cup permethrin) in your mixing container. This is super easy if you’re using a container with ratio measurement lines.
Add the cotton balls to the solution in your mixing container and stir them around a bit using your tongs so they soak up the solution.
Using your tongs, transfer the cotton balls from the solution to your empty plastic container and allow them to dry for a few hours.
Once your cotton balls are dry, put your gloves back on and stuff 3-5 cotton balls into each toilet paper tube. You just need enough that the cotton stays in there.
Scatter your assembled tick tubes every 10 to 15 feet around the perimeter of your yard.




https://grassrootsfunctionalmedicine.com/blog/tick-tubes/

[steve urquell]

The military issued a small o.d. green with black writing bottle of chemicals that was to be applied to pants legs and lasting several washings along with a fold , tuck and tape inside the boots hardly ever had a tick on many field training exercises of course I suspect the military does not know or care who the FDA is !
BTW the VA recently raised my disability rating due to cancer..........

Do you think it was permetherin?

[steve urquell]

DIY tick tubes used to control ticks through rodents. Basically use toilet paper, paper towel or pvc tubes and treat cotton or dryer lint with permethrin. Starting in early spring. The rodents use the treated material for nesting coating them selves with it and as ticks emerge and are looking for a host they are poisoned with contact of the mice.

Instructions

If using paper towel rolls, cut each roll into 3 sections.
Put on your gloves and protective eyewear.
Combine 4 parts water with 1 part permethrin (ex: 4 cups water and 1 cup permethrin) in your mixing container. This is super easy if you’re using a container with ratio measurement lines.
Add the cotton balls to the solution in your mixing container and stir them around a bit using your tongs so they soak up the solution.
Using your tongs, transfer the cotton balls from the solution to your empty plastic container and allow them to dry for a few hours.
Once your cotton balls are dry, put your gloves back on and stuff 3-5 cotton balls into each toilet paper tube. You just need enough that the cotton stays in there.
Scatter your assembled tick tubes every 10 to 15 feet around the perimeter of your yard.




https://grassrootsfunctionalmedicine.com/blog/tick-tubes/

Thanks for posting this. I had read that chipmunks were the worst spreader of tick larvae. I used to have them in my back yard due to the prev owners of my house building decks around all the trees making great nesting sites.

When those were in place I had a really bad time with ticks needing to spray the yard every couple of weeks in the summer.
After removing all of them the munks moved on and the tick problem reduced greatly.

[owejia]

Permethrin is neutralized by human skin contact according to a google search so that is why it is applied to shoes and clothing instead of skin in humans. Believe the main ingredient is all natural seem to remember reading it is also produced in a flower that people plant in their garden as natural pest control.

[Soundguy]

Controlled burning reduces tick numbers as well. What about the sacks of pesticide powder i see hanging under cattle feeders, in barns, etc? I would think that would be effective as well from a trough feeder?

yup..drips and powder sacks.. I use them on cattle strung across a narrow gate they have to pass thru to eat.. good for swine too.

[Soundguy]

Do you think it was permetherin?

might have been ddt..

[Handloader109]

I don't hunt deer, but I've got a dozen that make daily passes through my land and near my house. Got my first tick yesterday. I'm in NW Arkansas and have them bad every year. I haven't been feeding the boogers but might start. Oh. We've had mice in the old house 6 out of 7 years we've been here and zero have had ticks on them.... just sayin

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[poppy42]

Do you think it was permetherin?
Permethrin isn’t really an insecticide well Kinda it interrupts the growth cycle and doesn’t allow juvenile techs to emerge as adults. With that being said you still have adult text to deal with

Sorry disregard what I just said write it off to a brain hiccup. Permethrin is actually a man-made insecticide that mimics a plant based natural one like Marigolds. It has replaced a lot of more toxic insecticides. Like I said sorry I was thinking of something else should’ve kept my big mouth shut
I was actually thinking of Precor! Hey I’m old what can I tell you

[FLINTNFIRE]

poppy You are one of the few who would actually say you made a mistake and I congratulate you on being a honorable man . hell we on here are all old for the most part .

[JimB..]

DIY tick tubes used to control ticks through rodents. Basically use toilet paper, paper towel or pvc tubes and treat cotton or dryer lint with permethrin. Starting in early spring. The rodents use the treated material for nesting coating them selves with it and as ticks emerge and are looking for a host they are poisoned with contact of the mice.

Instructions

If using paper towel rolls, cut each roll into 3 sections.
Put on your gloves and protective eyewear.
Combine 4 parts water with 1 part permethrin (ex: 4 cups water and 1 cup permethrin) in your mixing container. This is super easy if you’re using a container with ratio measurement lines.
Add the cotton balls to the solution in your mixing container and stir them around a bit using your tongs so they soak up the solution.
Using your tongs, transfer the cotton balls from the solution to your empty plastic container and allow them to dry for a few hours.
Once your cotton balls are dry, put your gloves back on and stuff 3-5 cotton balls into each toilet paper tube. You just need enough that the cotton stays in there.
Scatter your assembled tick tubes every 10 to 15 feet around the perimeter of your yard.




https://grassrootsfunctionalmedicine.com/blog/tick-tubes/

Was just going to post about these. While I hate helping the voles and mice, it’s a good way to reduce ticks.

[Shawlerbrook]

Not only is feeding wildlife illegal in many states but using products like ivermectin for off label uses is also illegal. There is no way to effectively dose wild animals since there is no way to control how much treated feed each animal consumes. Also there is no way to control other species like turkeys, etc. from consuming it. I know I will get some flack , but this is not a safe, effective or legal method of tick control. Not speaking as an amateur as I have a degree in wildlife biology and spent 32 years working for the NYSDEC as a pesticide and agricultural chemical regulator.

[augercreek]

When we had to quit burning fields in the Spring the ticks became a nuisance. Never had any before that. Went Trout fishing on our stream and by the time I got home I picked off 43 ticks! My wife said you're taking off your cloths outside not in the house!

[Rickf1985]

I am pretty sure Permethrin is a poison of some sort since I use it on all of my jeans and it works great. Also out of the yellow bottles. It lasts an entire summer through many washes. At the end of the season last year I picked a tick of of a branch that I spotted and sat it on my pants on my leg and watched it. It ran like crazy for no more than a minute and then it started to stumble and spasm and in 3 minutes it was dead. These pants had been treated 3 months prior and had been washed many times.