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GARD72977
02-10-2024, 08:24 PM
Received this mold in the mail today. Accurate 31-264. Can't wait to cast in the morning. I have a new Remington 700 300 Blackout 1/7 twist. I can't remember being this excited to try a new mold

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Recycled bullet
02-10-2024, 08:33 PM
What are your test loads going to be?

Finster101
02-10-2024, 09:16 PM
That seems really heavy.

sukivel
02-10-2024, 10:59 PM
Why so heavy?


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Barry54
02-10-2024, 11:56 PM
I have load data from JD Jones for the 300 Whisper he invented, and 250 grain matchking’s which were discontinued before the 240 grain smk came and went. Several powders shown for subsonic and even a few supersonic loads with the 250 grain. Shouldn’t be difficult to interpolate up from there. Let us know how much they weigh with your alloy please.

Barry54
02-11-2024, 12:07 AM
Why so heavy?


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If you are shooting subsonic, the only way to increase energy is by increasing the projectile weight.

GARD72977
02-11-2024, 04:52 AM
I have some different powders to try. H4198 is what I will start with. I have always liked 300/321 , blackout or what ever you want to call it in a slower twist for lead bullets. I just wanted to see if I can make the 1/7 work. I'm planning to work from 900-1150 fps searching for a accuracy.

I have been working a 300 Hamr bolt gun project. I kind of bought this Remington blackout on a whim .

Barry54
02-11-2024, 07:20 AM
Was it Remington that made a batch of rifles with 1/10 twist that were marked 1/7 and let them into the wild? Not trying to rain on your parade, but you might check it with a patch and cleaning rod to see what the twist really is.

SKK data doesn’t show 4198. They show supersonic loads with Reloader 7, 1680, and H110. A few others are used subsonic. Do you have Quickload?

sukivel
02-11-2024, 08:21 AM
If you are shooting subsonic, the only way to increase energy is by increasing the projectile weight.

No, you could use a larger caliber.

I get your point, but will you be able to jam enough powder in it to get that bullet down range? If you’re compressed and jamming the lands but can’t get it fast enough to go.

I’m interested in knowing if your experiment works.


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sukivel
02-11-2024, 08:25 AM
I have load data from JD Jones for the 300 Whisper he invented, and 250 grain matchking’s which were discontinued before the 240 grain smk came and went. Several powders shown for subsonic and even a few supersonic loads with the 250 grain. Shouldn’t be difficult to interpolate up from there. Let us know how much they weigh with your alloy please.

Did JDJ ascertain that the 250 could work or was this just his testing?

Don’t get me wrong, I like heavy for caliber.


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Recycled bullet
02-11-2024, 08:37 AM
I shot a bunch of noe 225 grain with h110 through 1-7" ruger ranch rifle. It is fun.

BNE
02-11-2024, 09:07 AM
Heavy for caliber is my preferred way. 1/7 twist should be enough to stabilize.

Keep us posted.

BNE

Grayone
02-11-2024, 09:08 AM
Don't overlook IMR4227. I have ran as high as a 245 grain bullet with full function in an carbine length AR. should be 9.5 grain.

Barry54
02-11-2024, 09:23 AM
Did JDJ ascertain that the 250 could work or was this just his testing?

Don’t get me wrong, I like heavy for caliber.


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Yes he did. Load data was provided with the barrel I purchased from SSK but the 250 grain matchking had already been discontinued at that point in time. I just used the 240 grain in the data for the 250 grain.

bsev81
02-11-2024, 09:31 AM
New mold day is the best, except for that dang break in period.. Very cool, I remember when this bullet was designed and didn't know you could buy the mold for it. My 1:7 barrel stabilizes the NOE 247 without issue, no bolt gun in blackout yet but I shoot a 315gr in the 338 Spectre. The great thing about bolt guns is you can use fast pistol powders to make them super quiet. Blackout will have a different case capacity so your mileage may vary, but powders in the Blue Dot to Longshot burn rate are ideal for the Spectre bolt action. I have tried even faster powders such as Win 231 which successfully got the bullet down range, however I only made it to about 900 fps before it started popping primers.

GARD72977
02-11-2024, 09:32 AM
Was it Remington that made a batch of rifles with 1/10 twist that were marked 1/7 and let them into the wild? Not trying to rain on your parade, but you might check it with a patch and cleaning rod to see what the twist really is.

SKK data doesn’t show 4198. They show supersonic loads with Reloader 7, 1680, and H110. A few others are used subsonic. Do you have Quickload?

I don't have Quickloads. I have a old Sierra pistol manual that I bought in the early 90s. It has 300 whisper data up to 240gr.

The twist is 1/7. I would have loved it to be 1/10.

I have 4227. I curious about some of the faster powders like Red Dot. Or unique.

kenton
02-11-2024, 10:45 AM
Hodgdon has load data for 265gr acme coated bullets that includes a bunch of powders including IMR 4227, IMR 4198 and H4198.

https://hodgdonreloading.com/rldc/

I'm not a fan of their new layout but the data is still there.

GARD72977
02-11-2024, 12:57 PM
First casting session went well. I scrapped the first hundred or so. I had this mold made in steel to help retain heat. It cast great. Can't wait to get them coated. Its raining so probably won't try Hitek coating today.

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barrabruce
02-13-2024, 07:07 AM
http://www.adiworldclass.com.au/data-rifle/300-aac-blackout

Adi 2207 only goes to 230 grners with 10.8 grns

Take a bit of stopping that one.

Texas by God
02-13-2024, 02:21 PM
I’ll wager that the sectional density of that bullet is WAY up there!


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pacomdiver
02-13-2024, 08:50 PM
like Bsev, i run the Noe 247g with good success in a rem 700 1:7

GARD72977
02-14-2024, 03:17 AM
like Bsev, i run the Noe 247g with good success in a rem 700 1:7

What kind of accuracy are you getting @ 100 yards

sukivel
02-14-2024, 10:37 AM
I’ll wager that the sectional density of that bullet is WAY up there!


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No kidding, those dudes are long!


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GARD72977
02-24-2024, 06:29 PM
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I was able to make it to the range today. It was stupid windy.

These were not accurate. I had large vertical stringing. Even in the wind the horizontal was not bad. Velocity seemed really low. I can't find all the pieces to my chronograph.

Load was
Bullet 270gr
AA1680 8.2gr
OAL 2.11

I checked the twist in the barrel and got 1/7.5 I guessing it is really 1/7.

I'm hoping the bullet yawing was from the velocity being really low.

I was able to recover 2 bullets from the burm. It interesting that there is rifling all the way to the nose. It looks like the bore ridding part bumped up like a black powder load. Primers were very rounded. No signs of pressure.

The bore had no leading

GARD72977
02-24-2024, 07:42 PM
I found some load data. Looks like I should be at 10.8gr