fat 44cal group buy starts now

[jeff223]

im talking about a buy for this boolit and will be at .433 or .434 depending LEE.
will also need the measurements from the man and he can mail me a copy if he would please and thankyou.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=739&stc=1&thumb=1

PM me for my address and make sure i get your return address with the payment

[308]

I have your address from before, and 56 bucks, correct?

[jeff223]

$56.00 is correct Lamar.i was going to run a group buy on both but there are only 11 votes for the other boolit on the poll up top.if it gets alittle more interest in that one maybe i will end up doing it too.

here is my address so people dont have to PM me


Jeff Bowne
1183 Haynor Rd
Ionia Michigan 48846

[mike in co]

265gc/three groove/433/434.....sixpack and i'm in...
i'll wait to send funds when we get ready to submit.
my suggestion is to put in writting on the purchase letter what the specs are.

thanks
mike

[308]

I'll put a check in the mail tomorrow. Did I thank you for all your time and effort in doing this? If I didn't, Thank you. Lamar.....

[Dutch4122]

My check will be in the mail to you next week. Thanks again Jeff!

[mike in co]

well this is strange.
2o plus votes on the poll, and only 4-5 people sign up ......oh well
guess i'll go cast up some more of my lbt 280's

[Intel6]

Might want to give it some time, I don't check this site everyday buit did to day to check on group buy moulds. :)

I have an original 2 cavity LBT mould to cast a .44 265 WFN but sure like the production capacity of this mould.

Neal in AZ

[Johnch]

I sent my check out today

Johnch

[Bigscot]

Jeff,

Put a check in the mail today.

Bigscot

[jeff223]

one check so far and thats from Lamar

lets get er done

[Starrbow]

I'm In................................................ .................................................. .................Marko

[jeff223]

i have gotten three payments so far

[Bear4570]

Mine will get sent out end of next week if that's OK.

[Dr. A]

Can't let this one go. SHould go out tomorrow.

[tom barthel]

jeff

You should be receiving my check this week. I like the bullet design. Now I need to scroung some wheel weights.

Thanks

Tom (ustabee)

[jeff223]

here is the list so far that i received,the zip codes
i will check back twice a week with updates

30114
14806
29384
43445
74403
27539
48415
67401
17241

[Dutch4122]

Jeff-

My check to you went out in todays mail. Zip is 48415.

[Bass Ackward]

I think that part of the problem here is that I am not sure what you guys decided and are buying.

If you would post a picture of the winning drawing, then you might garner some more interest. There were so many posts and so many bullets in the last thread, I said I would wait and see what shook out.

So what did?

[45 2.1]

IIf you would post a picture of the winning drawing, then you might garner some more interest. There were so many posts and so many bullets in the last thread, I said I would wait and see what shook out. So what did?

Link in first post of this:

[jeff223]

thats the one and i have 8 people wanting in other than me.
this should be a winner

[ironduke2]

Jeff. My check will go out in tomorrows mail. Zip 17241. Thanks. Bob :castmine:

[Plainsman]

Hi!

I haven't been on the boards for a while and this thread definitely caught my attention!

Please tell me more about this mold! I've been wanting to get into a a heavier bullet for my .444 and I'm assuming that this is what this mold is for!?!

What does the $56 get one?

Thanks!

[45 2.1]

Hi!

I haven't been on the boards for a while and this thread definitely caught my attention!

Please tell me more about this mold! I've been wanting to get into a a heavier bullet for my .444 and I'm assuming that this is what this mold is for!?!

What does the $56 get one?

Thanks!

This mold is set up for the 44 mag rifles crimped in the front groove, the 444 rifles crimped in the middle groove and 44 pistols in any of the grooves.

[jeff223]

things have slowed down on this one some.hope it picks up

[Dutch4122]

things have slowed down on this one some.hope it picks up

I don't think we're doing too bad for 3 weeks. Nothing wrong with letting this one run a while. Sometimes it takes a while for word to get around.

[jeff223]

here is an updated zip code list

30114
14806
29384
43445
74403
27539
48415
67401
17241
97754
54213
83843

[Plainsman]

Is there a minimum number of molds you have to order? If so, how many? (25?)

I plan on ordering one of each and am watching both threads so I don't miss out.

[jeff223]

WE NEED 25 MOLDS TO DO THE DEAL

you better get in while you can

[krag35]

My check went in the mail today. 97754. Hope it works as good as it looks.
krag35

[jcork]

My check went in the mail today, from 83843.

[jeff223]

Great i will keep my eyes open for the payments

[Bigscot]

Are there any updates to this buy?

BS

[jeff223]

what updates are you looking for?there are 13 orders so far and i have a guy that wants two of these molds too so that would make a total of 15 molds.once we get a total of 25 or more i will send the order in.

would you like one?
let me know
thanks

[Bigscot]

Thanks Jeff. I am already in on this one. I was just curious as to what the numbers looked like. Seems like this buy is moving slower than some of the others I have been in on.

BS

[Dutch4122]

Not too bad for just over a month. Some, like the .30 caliber customs, will go faster because there are obviously more potential customers out there with a .30 they need to feed.

I'm sure we'll be able to scare up 10 or more buyers for this run in due time.

[jeff223]

it looks like we are at a stand still now on this one.the RANCH DOG mold deal is catching up

[jeff223]

here is an updated list ogf those who what a mold

30114
14806
29384
43445
74403
27539
48415

17241
97754
54213

98337-2 molds

[jeff223]

we are at a stand still now.any help from the rest of you talking these mold deals up on the other forums be be great.

thanks,
jeff

[jeff223]

this is an updated list of those want in on this deal
30114
14806
29384


27539
48415

17241
97754


98337-2 molds

[jeff223]

WELL GUYS??WHAT YOU WANT TO DO?
we just lost another buyer from this deal to the RANCH DOG mold deal.we are going in the wrong direction on this.i will let this run for as long as it takes but its your call.if anyone wants to change or wants their money back PM me.or if you want to let it run for awhile thats fine too

ITS YOUR CALL on this one

thanks,
jeff

PS,once the RANCH DOG mold deal is sent in its over.i wont call and change the order with LEE.i did that on the other group buy i did and the woman i talked to had a $hit fit about it.once the RANCH DOG deal is over maybe this one will take off?????i dont know for sure about that though????

[Plainsman]

It would have been tough for me to get into both of these buys this quickly. I'm ready for one, hence my jumping on the band wagon on the RD. I hope this one flies eventually too! I'll get on this one if it's still available say about mid summer.

Thanks for the effort Jeff! :)

[Dutch4122]

It's been almost 2 months since this design was opened up for orders. At this point I would say let it ride until after the Ranch Dog group buy has come back to you from Lee and you have distributed those molds.

Once you are done with that one we can then tally up the total number we have for the "Fat 44" and figure out how much each of us needs to kick in extra for covering the setup fee of $100.

Then you can send it in to Lee so that those of us who want this boolit can have what we signed up for.

By the way, we're still interested in an as cast diameter of .434" right?

[jeff223]

sounds Dutch

[jeff223]

we picked up another order on this one today and here is an updated zip code list

30114
14806
293

27539
48415

17241
97754


98337-2 molds
59923

[libbyman]

IMHO let this buy go until May1 and then everywho has signed up
puts up the extra money for the set up fee.
Of course this just MHO.
libbyman

[mike in co]

actually i'm still in, just holding onto my money till we get close....

i see 12 buyers
that would add 8.50 to 9 bucks to the cost.'
i'm in for doing it now!

them that voted and bailed will have to live with thier decissions.

i see no reason to wait........we have voted and we have waited...

as the guy says


get'er done!

[45 2.1]

Wait a while!

[mike in co]

Wait a while!



keep it up and i'll pour ketchup on u 45 2.1..........lol

[jeff223]

we can run this till you guys decide to stop the deal.no problem here with me



get'er done!

[308]

No real hurry so long as we"git 'er dun. "

[Plainsman]

I've got an RD mold on the way now. So I'm in no rush on this one at the moment. June or July would be about perfect for an order date for me to get in on this one!

[Johnch]

When we get enough for the order , that is soon enough for me.
43445

Johnch

[jeff223]

30114
14806
29384


27539
48415

17241
97754


98337-2 molds

i think this is correct with all the changes but im going to double check and post a new list soon.we had a bunch bail out of this deal to get in on the Ranch Dog deal

[jeff223]

here is an updated list of buyers as of today

30114
29384
14806

17241
48415
59923
43445

[jeff223]

this buyer list has gone down some but i had a couple of guys bail out to get in on the Ranch Dog deal.they told me they were going to get back in on this deal again so the number will be back up around 10 or 11

down the road we must look at this deal and figure out if we want to end it.for another 8 or 9 dollars each we could send the deal in and have Lee run the order for us.this might be the way for us to go.its all up to you guys that ordered.i kind of wanted one of each of these molds from these group buys and im willing to wait for awhile yet.maybe with the close of the Ranch Dog bullet mold deal this one will pick up some

what do you guys think?ideas please

also if the deal was talked up on the other forums it might take off.it doesnt hurt anything to spread the news of this group buy around on the net.make sure you have them come and check things out here at castboolits.gunloads.com.i could use the help

thanks everyone,
jeff

[Plainsman]

I would like one of each as well and the longer we wait on this one, the more time I have to make sure I can get in on it! :) Also, once the other deal has cooled down for a while guys will probably get the itch to purchase another mold.

That's my $.02 worth! :)

[jeff223]

WHAT DEAD LINE DATE DO WE WANT ON THIS?

im for paying alittle more each so we can run the deal with Lee.this wouldnt cost anymore than 8 or 9 dollars more each.this is up to you guys.

LETS TALK ABOUT THIS PLEASEhttp://www.castboolits.gunloads.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[308]

I'll go along with what the majority wants to do. I figger when some of the guys recover from paying for the Ranch Dog they will want to get in on this one too.

[jeff223]

any more interest in this mold?

[steveb]

I just got in on the Ranch Dog TLC432-285-RF and short on cash But I would really would like to get in on this to because of my overbored Rossi at .432 If I can come up with the money before this ends I will get in on it. But I dont see me having the money for about three weeks. HOPEFULLY it will work out for me so I can get in on this as I like the design as well!

[Plainsman]

Time is our 'friend!' :)

[Bear4570]

I am still interested, jumped on the Ranch Dog buy, and will be sending you a MO for this one in a couple of weeks if that is not to long.

[jeff223]

thats good.im glad there is some interest in this mold still.we can let it run for a long time if you guys want too.i have a Ranch Dog mold comming so that will cover me.i got to shoot a few of those boolits from the Ranch Dog mold and they shoot very good for me.i shot them from a super 14 445 supermag Contender.i think this Beartooth bullets will shoot just as good.this TC barrel seems to like cast boolits unlike my 357max barrel.i may put my Lee 6 holer 180gr 357cal boolit mold up for sale.im going to give it one last chance at shooting cast boolits

[steveb]

The more I look at it the more I like the design. Im fairly new to casting your own as already stated but is this a LBT design??Has anyone had previous experience with this boolit?? Gotta a pretty big flat nose Im wondering how it would chamber in my Rossi 92? I need this bullet diamater for my overbored Rossi(.432) and think I may getting the cash sooner than I thought. Is this mold going in as .433 or .434?? .434 may even work better for me I dont know??

[jeff223]

ive has alittlemore interest in this mold in the last couple of days.i have two more guys wanting in on this deal.maybe this will start taking off alittle faster now.i hope so

[Dutch4122]

I'm sure you'll get a few more on this one. Seems from reading previous posts that a lot of guys really wanted both this one and the Ranch Dog .44 tumble lube mould. Time seems to be on our side at least until the other order comes in from Lee. Hopefully those who said they will send in a second check to cover this deal after switching over to the Ranch Dog .44 will keep their word plus we'll get a few more new orders as time goes by.

Who knows, we might make it to 25 orders yet! :)

[jeff223]

no payments from anyone on this mold for a long time nowhttp://castboolits.gunloads.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[jeff223]

the last payment on this deal was 3-29-06

maybe we should do something here?
your thoughts on this please

[mike in co]

well i posted A MONTH AGO WHAT TO DO!

i should have bought the ranch dog!!

oh well life goes on, maybe some one will sell me a ranch dog....

[jeff223]

there are 8 guys wanting in on this deal and thats counting me.we could end this deal with just another 12 or 13 dollars each and we could get our molds.

WHAT DOES EVERYONE THINK?

maybe we should post a deadline date on this to force a few others in on this deal?its doesnt really matter one way or the other to me as i have a Ranch Dog mold comming and the boolits shoots good for me.i would be kind of fun to play around with both of them though

this Wednesday 4-26-06 i am going in for knee replacement surgery and will be off line for awhile so you guys can hash this out while im gone.i will check in again tomorrow and on Tuesday just to see whats going on

thanks,
jeff

[Johnch]

For me , I could wait .
But there seems to be little more intrest , so a deadline would be a good idea IMO


But a extra $12 or $13 would be fine also .
If the masses want to send it off short of 25 .



Hope the knee replacement works out good .
Are you going to get a vidio of the surgery ?
I watched a freinds knee replacement vidio , sort of sick , but interesting to watch them saw his leg apart .
Then put him back togeather .

Johnch

[Dutch4122]

Jeff-

1st off I'd like to commend you for all of your patience in dealing with this group buy "Fat .44" project. You have gone above and beyond the call while trying to set this up along with the other "Ranch Dog .44" buy.

If there are 8 of us who have actually sent in checks and stayed with the deal since this group buy opened on 1-25-06 then I would say it is time to get this thing done. Say the word and I will send you a check for $13 to cover my end of the set up fee tomorrow if you'd like. Waiting around for others to get back in who bailed out to go for the other design is getting to be old.

I really didn't mind waiting for a few others to get back in, but If they are not steady sending in checks then lets set a deadline. Since your knee surgery is this coming Wednesday I'd say it'll be at least a month (if not longer) before you'll be able to do much more with this. Why not set a deadline for one month after your surgery to send the order in. If that don't get the stragglers to send in checks then I would say they were never really serious in the first place.

Then those of us who have sent in our money for this design and have been waiting patiently can get what we wanted all along. Like I mentioned above it is getting a little old waiting for others to get back in after switching their order; as well as waiting for some to actually send in a check that they promised months ago.

Best of luck with your knee surgery. A friend had both of his done last year and I can tell you the recovery and therapy was painful and tough, but worth it to him.

Take care,

[jeff223]

lets give this until May 15 so the others guys can add their input

like i said im having knee replacement surgery in a couple of days.my home computer in not working so i must run to town and use the one thats at my wifes buisness.maybe by then i will be able to make my way to the computer

you guys hash this out please and thanks

[jeff223]

LETS END THIS DEAL ON MAY 22

THOSE THAT ARE IN WILL HAVE UNTIL JUNE 1ST TO PAY THE EXTRA $$ NEEDED FOR THE SETUP FEE

i will send the deal in on June 1st.it doesnt look like we are going to fill up on this one.anyone wanting in are welcome and if you want out let me know.i wont be checking things out here for a few weeks because of my knee surgery.i will really try to check things out on or before May 22

[Plainsman]

Jeff,

Good luck with the surgery! My father in law is getting both of his knees replaced May 15 so we understand what bad knees can be like!

I'll probably be bowing out of this deal with a June 1st deadline and an extra $13 to boot. July 1st might have been realistic for me, but I've already spent all my 'play' money through May...The local Hobby Town went out of business last month and I dipped into the savings too hard for all the 'great savings!' LOL! :)

[steveb]

Good luck on your surgery Jeff!!

[jeff223]

my knee surgery went good and im doing good too

so what are we going to do with this deal?i did get one more payment for this deal last week and i will update the list in a couple of days.this fellow sent some extra $$$ with the payment too.i think we sould end the deal so we can get order sent into Lee.maybe we can have our molds before the hunting season

i plan on sending everyone a letter in the mail so i know everyone will have a heads up on the ending of the deal.

input from everyone please about this

[Dutch4122]

Glad to hear that your surgery went well, Jeff. I agree with sending the order in to Lee at this time.

Just either post an amount that you need sent by each of us involved to cover the setup fee or tell us that amount in the letter. I will send you my share of the setup fee as soon as I know how much you need.

[Johnch]

PM me a address again and how much I need to send you for the set up fee's .
I can't seem to find your address and I deleted the last PM [smilie=1:

I am glad the knee surgery came out good

Johnch

[Thin Man]

Jeff223,

Yesterday I mailed you a check for two molds, hope it arrives soon.

Glad to hear your surgery went well.

Thin Man

[jeff223]

THIS DEAL IS NOW OVER!!!
here is an updated zip code list
14806
29384
17241
48415
59923
30114
43445
97754
37803---2 molds

ALL WE NEED TO DO NOW IS THIS

send me an extra $10.00 each for the setup fee.
if we get a bunch or orders while im waiting for the extra $10.00 from everyone i can refund you all a couple of bucks when i send the molds out to you

LETS TRY TO FINISH THIS UP ASAP

thanks

[libbyman]

Jeff,
Have the ck. made out for the $10.00.
It will go out in Mondays mail. Zip 59923

Ken aka libbyman

[Dutch4122]

Same here. Check for $10 will go in the mail 1st thing Monday morning. Zip is 48415.

[ironduke2]

Jeff. Been away for a little and just saw tthe post. Will get my $10 in tomorrows mail from zip 17241. Thanks. Bob:castmine:

[jeff223]

sounds good about getting the extra $10.00 for the setup fee.

i got one more payment in the mail today for a mold and i know of one more thats on its way to me.i will make sure that any extras paid to me for the setup few will be refunded to those who paid more than they should.there will only be a couple of bucks extra but i will include that along with the molds when i ship them out

thanks everyone for the payments and the extra $$$ that you sent.i will update the zip code list in the next few days

have a good week end everyonehttp://www.castboolits.gunloads.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Starrbow]

Jeff,
I just seen this post so I will send the extra 10.00 Tuesday 5-30-06.

[jeff223]

***THE FAT 44 MOLD DEAL IS NOW OVER***

here is an updated zip code list

97754-paid the extra for the setup
29439-paid the extra for the setup
43445-paid the extra for the setup
48415-paid the extra for the setup
59923-paid the extra for the setup
62801-paid the extra for the setup
37803-paid the extra for the setup and is getting (2molds)
************************************************** ***************
all of these below have not paid the extra for the setup fee
Starrbow has posted that he is sending the extra on 5-30.i will be sending the other three guys a letter in the mail
30114
14806
29384
17241

i am sending this order in tomorrow (5-30-06) and i hope the Lee company can fill the order within 90 days.

thanks everyone for your order and a special thanks to 45 2.1 for comming up with the boolit design and spec sheet for us

later,
jeff

[jeff223]

i sent the order out yesterday and i also talked to the lady at Lee Precision about the length of time to fill the order.she said it would take 90 to 120 days for them to run the order for us

[krag35]

Has anyone done any work with this boolit? I finally cast some up yesterday. They drop at .435 and weigh 283 gr naked. I have some loaded up over AA2520 for my 444, but will not get to test them until next weekend. I had to crimp in the front groove because of the non existent throat on my '94.

[Dutch4122]

I've shot this boolit in my Marlin 1894SS .44 Mag. Sized to .433" Worked up a load with H4227. They weigh 280 grns with my wheelweight alloy lubed and checked.

I had to crimp them in the front crimp groove to get them to feed. I don't think that OAL was causing the boolit to kiss the lands. Accuracy was "ok" but I think that once I get the lifter modified to handle the longer OAL I'll be able to get a better alignment before ignition. Lube capacity for longer barrels is excellant with this one as I had a nice lube star forming on the muzzle with Lar45's carnauba red lube.

In all I'm very happy with this boolit. As velocity approached 1500 fps out of the 1 turn in 38" twist Marlin the groups begain to tighten up and I think it's only a matter of "tweaking" the load in my .44 carbine.

Haven't tried it in my USRAC Black Shadow .444 yet.

Hope this helps,